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bostonoski Jan 9, 2013 4:40 am


Originally Posted by fly-yul (Post 20005156)
Same here. I don't see why an office visit is needed if you are able to enter the new data into GOES.

In the alternative, since there is no receipt issued to you if you "update" your passport in person, how could you prove that you did follow the update in person "rule".

I'm wondering if this discussion about both GE usage and stickers has anything to do with the mix of US & Canadian folks in the thread both using a program of the same name but which seems to be VERY slightly different depending which side you are on...?

I am American and have no sticker, but I will add that one's passport HAS to be scanned in specifically for using GE, so even if you are Nexus but the US agent did not scan it (per the US agent I visited to make sure I had been scanned), then it can reject you.

I always find it confusing when I read this thread if it's a slight citizenship difference, until I can tell if it's a Canadian or American 'talking', because, for example, Americans do not have to fill out any forms (even though the Canadians on Nexus seem to avoid that now) going either way on a land border... just as one small example.

Gogie Jan 9, 2013 6:59 am

Here's some data points for those interested.

I am a Canadian citizen and resident (eh).
I have had Nexus for just over 3 years (and was finger printed when I was interviewed).
I was automatically enrolled into GE last year (notified via email). I have not received (nor do I want) a "sticker" for my passport.
I have used both Nexus and GE machines upon entering the US. I did nothing to "confirm" my GE membership - GE worked the first time I tried it without any hiccups.
When using Nexus to enter the US I must fill out a "blue form".
When using GE to enter the US I don't need to fill out any forms. My passport is scanned at the GE kiosk. A customs form is printed out by the GE machine and I hand this form to the US agent.
When entering Canada I must fill out a Canadian customs card, whether I use Nexus or not (as pointed out to me by RevvedUp, GE is only available for entering the US, not Canada).
I have never been asked to show my passport or Nexus card to an agent.
I have experienced one secondary entering the US (at YYZ) when using Nexus. I have not had any other secondary inspections other than that.
The number of trips involved using Nexus are probably in excess of 30.
The number of trips involved using GE are 3 or 4 (I was hesitant to use it at first - I use it exclusively if possible now).
Nexus and GE both have been available to me upon arriving in YYZ from an international destination (other than the US).
I have not crossed the border other than by air for many years so I have no experience with Nexus or GE at land crossings.

Silvercity Jan 9, 2013 7:41 am

I'm sure this has been asked before. So please excuse me if it has.

My Wife and I both have Nexus and GE. We use it frequentlly and certainly myself 2-3 times a month. Recently we have had a new addition to our family and our Baby Girl will soon have her own Passport (tax grab). So my question is do I need to get her a Nexus Card if she travels with us or is she under my Wife's passport and card?

flyquiet Jan 9, 2013 7:50 am

"All applicants 18 years of age and older are required to submit the non-refundable $50 fee to participate in the NEXUS program. Children 17 years and younger are required to submit an application at no cost."
From http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/tr.../nexus_faq.xml

margarita girl Jan 9, 2013 7:59 am


Originally Posted by xero9 (Post 20002176)
How did you get them to register your passport? When my wife got her new passport and we visited the NEXUS office at YYZ, the Canadian agent did some stuff on the computer and said she was good to go. When I asked if this passport was set up for GE, she said "she has a NEXUS card". I'm not wondering if we should have asked to see a US agent as well.

Really hope we don't have any problems using GE at EWR next month..

Went to the GE office at LAX. I did several consecutive RGN-LAX runs in Aug and I found out on the first run that my new passport number hadn't been registered. I really think the US GE folks at YYZ are incompetent.

PhotoJim Jan 9, 2013 8:55 am


Originally Posted by margarita girl (Post 20009393)
Went to the GE office at LAX. I did several consecutive RGN-LAX runs in Aug and I found out on the first run that my new passport number hadn't been registered. I really think the US GE folks at YYZ are incompetent.

You have to register your passport at a NEXUS office when you renew (to be able to continue to use NEXUS), but you can (and should) change your own passport information on GOES for GlobalEntry. Once you've done it online, you're good to go. I updated my info online in April and had no issues using GE with my new passport at DEN in May.

xero9 Jan 9, 2013 9:32 am


Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 20009749)
You have to register your passport at a NEXUS office when you renew (to be able to continue to use NEXUS), but you can (and should) change your own passport information on GOES for GlobalEntry. Once you've done it online, you're good to go. I updated my info online in April and had no issues using GE with my new passport at DEN in May.

I didn't even realize I could do this.. I just logged in to my wife's GOES account and did Manage Documents. For her US passport (the one she had when she originally applied) has all information, however her newly acquired Canadian passport only has passport number, country of issuance, and expiration.

If I try to update the information, I can only change the passport number, issue date, and expiration date. Should this still work?

Worst case, she can use the US passport at EWR that day.

fly-yul Jan 9, 2013 9:40 am


Originally Posted by Silvercity (Post 20009290)
I'm sure this has been asked before. So please excuse me if it has.

My Wife and I both have Nexus and GE. We use it frequentlly and certainly myself 2-3 times a month. Recently we have had a new addition to our family and our Baby Girl will soon have her own Passport (tax grab). So my question is do I need to get her a Nexus Card if she travels with us or is she under my Wife's passport and card?

Yes, the baby needs to be enrolled in NEXUS.

There is no longer any concept of minor children being listed on a parent's passport.

canadiancow Jan 9, 2013 9:45 am


Originally Posted by bostonoski (Post 20008493)
I'm wondering if this discussion about both GE usage and stickers has anything to do with the mix of US & Canadian folks in the thread both using a program of the same name but which seems to be VERY slightly different depending which side you are on...?

I am American and have no sticker, but I will add that one's passport HAS to be scanned in specifically for using GE, so even if you are Nexus but the US agent did not scan it (per the US agent I visited to make sure I had been scanned), then it can reject you.

I always find it confusing when I read this thread if it's a slight citizenship difference, until I can tell if it's a Canadian or American 'talking', because, for example, Americans do not have to fill out any forms (even though the Canadians on Nexus seem to avoid that now) going either way on a land border... just as one small example.

The sticker is cosmetic. The only problems I've read from people who don't have it is that they aren't allowed into the YYZ preclearance room by the passport checkers under the premise that they have GE.

The form is required if using NEXUS. It is not required if using GE. That has nothing to do with citizenship.

However, I fill out a form anyway (I grabbed a stack last time I was at YYZ) in case GE is down but NEXUS is working.

RevvedUp Jan 9, 2013 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by Gogie (Post 20009107)
Here's some data points for those interested.

...
When entering Canada using either option I must fill out a Canadian customs card.
...
Nexus and GE both have been available to me upon arriving in YYZ from an international destination (other than the US).

I don't get this...GE is (I thought) a US-only program exclusively available when entering the US, either at US airports or in some pre-clearance areas in Canada. How do you mean that GE has been available to you arriving in Canada?

bostonoski Jan 9, 2013 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by Gogie (Post 20009107)
Here's some data points for those interested.

... When using Nexus to enter the US I must fill out a "blue form".
When using GE to enter the US I don't need to fill out any forms. My passport is scanned at the GE kiosk. A customs form is printed out by the GE machine and I hand this form to the US agent.
When entering Canada using either option I must fill out a Canadian customs card....

Thanks for posting all those data points!
The ones I excerpted are in reference to the reply below...


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 20010112)
The sticker is cosmetic. The only problems I've read from people who don't have it is that they aren't allowed into the YYZ preclearance room by the passport checkers under the premise that they have GE.

The form is required if using NEXUS. It is not required if using GE. That has nothing to do with citizenship.

However, I fill out a form anyway (I grabbed a stack last time I was at YYZ) in case GE is down but NEXUS is working.

No forms are required by US citizens using Nexus at land crossings in either direction... per my post. :) That may not apply though if you have items you must declare, I suspect. FWIW I have crossed hundreds of times, at many borders (but I have not used Nexus at an airport except for TSA Pre-Check, just FYI).

Gogie Jan 9, 2013 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by RevvedUp (Post 20011735)
I don't get this...GE is (I thought) a US-only program exclusively available when entering the US, either at US airports or in some pre-clearance areas in Canada. How do you mean that GE has been available to you arriving in Canada?

You are correct on this point. Now that I think about it, I've never used GE upon entering Canada (and the GE website clearly states that it's for entering the US only). I'll fix my post.

emcampbe Jan 9, 2013 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by fly-yul (Post 20005156)
Same here. I don't see why an office visit is needed if you are able to enter the new data into GOES.

In the alternative, since there is no receipt issued to you if you "update" your passport in person, how could you prove that you did follow the update in person "rule".

At least the times it has been explained to me by an officer, the reason for the office visit was so that they could take a copy. Why they need [needed] it, or what they do with it, I don't know.

I was also once told that updating in GOES, which is a US system, does not update the Canadian "side." How much truth there is to that, I don't know, but its what I was once told.


Originally Posted by bostonoski (Post 20008493)
I am American and have no sticker, but I will add that one's passport HAS to be scanned in specifically for using GE, so even if you are Nexus but the US agent did not scan it (per the US agent I visited to make sure I had been scanned), then it can reject you.

I don't know if "scanned" is necessarily the right terminology, but it does have to be registered for use with GE. In addition to the posts below saying an update on GOES was enough for new passports to be accepted by GE, don't forget that initially, when GE was given to all Nexus members, many did not have to do anything at all - meaning that their passports were registered for GE use without being "scanned" but as part of whatever process was done behind the scenes.

IIRC, when I went in to the GE office to get my fingerprints taken so I could use GE, the officer did not scan my passport at all - just took the fingerprints, then showed me the machine.

seanp7 Jan 9, 2013 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 20010112)
However, I fill out a form anyway (I grabbed a stack last time I was at YYZ) in case GE is down but NEXUS is working.

In my last 2 years of commuting YYZ-US weekly, the GE machines have never been down. The NEXUS ones go first. :td:

gglave Jan 10, 2013 5:55 am


Originally Posted by Gogie (Post 20009107)
I have never been asked to show my passport or Nexus card to an agent.

When I use GE at YVR transborder the US CBP officer usually asks to see my Nexus card. It's so prevalent that I just hand it over along with my boarding pass and the card from the machine, prior to his 'where are you going what are you doing' questions...


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