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Originally Posted by electroleum
(Post 15861500)
Hey guys. Stumbled across this thread through a google search. This may be a rather silly question, but I'm not the most seasoned traveler, so I'm just looking for some info.
I live in Calgary, and I'm going to be heading to Mexico in May. I was there in January, but I travelled via the US, so I was able to use my Nexus pass both on the way out and on the way back. This time, I'm flying direct to PVR from YYC. Obviously I can't use the Nexus in Mexico, but my question is whether or not I can use the Nexus line upon return? When international travelers arrive in Canada, do they send travellers from the US through a separate customs area than travelers from other international destinations? |
Awesome. I love getting quick & simple answers from sites like these. Thanks so much :)
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Agent collecting the blue cards and Nexus cards before security was also asking to see the NEXUS card at YYZ T1 so seems they are cracking down at both entry points here in Toronto.
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Originally Posted by mvonherr
(Post 15842629)
I have applied for Nexus, and have been tentatively approved. (US Cit if that is important)
Mainly applying for Nexus for global entry, but I do travel to Canada 1-2 times a year, all via Air. Don't currently have a trip planned in the next few months though. Based on scheduling, I am looking at doing interview in Detroit during a layover at DTW. (Taxi or rental car to get to border crossing) Here is my question. CBP Nexus site says Iris scans not currently available in the U.S. Since my primary method of crossing will be air, requiring an Iris scan, does this cause a problem? Will I just have to visit Nexus office in Canada on my next trip before I am able to use Nexus that way? Am I correct to assume that I should be able to fingerprint me and get everything for GE there? Thanks for the advice. That said, I made the mistake of doing my NEXUS interview at the Whirlpool Bridge in Niagara Falls, NY and had to fly into YYZ then get scanned there. Watch out that the line CBSA agent isn't an idiot and asks you something stupid like "why would they give you a NEXUS card if you didn't have the iris scan" as they asked me.
Originally Posted by Shareholder
(Post 15861821)
Agent collecting the blue cards and Nexus cards before security was also asking to see the NEXUS card at YYZ T1 so seems they are cracking down at both entry points here in Toronto.
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I'm not sure why people make such a big deal about having to show the NEXUS card at the crossing point. Let's not exaggerate here -- this is a compliance check, not a crackdown. It's a clearly stated condition of the program that you must have the NEXUS card with you when you use the NEXUS machine.
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Originally Posted by FewMiles
(Post 15862118)
Let's not exaggerate here -- this is a compliance check, not a crackdown. It's a clearly stated condition of the program that you must have the NEXUS card with you when you use the NEXUS machine.
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I'm likely to be getting a new visa that involves the Toronto consulate; they are also unfolding a new procedure effective Feb 1, and there are some new wrinkles. As I understand it, my passport will be taken to get the new stamp, and it is returned to a UPS center "within 3-7 working days." The challenge is that this could run up against a trip to the US several days after my visa interview.
I have Nexus. I presume I likely cannot just cross with Nexus and NOT have my passport? i.e. it is absolutely a must that you must have your passport available for inspection if asked (however slim might be the likelihood). I'm working with an immigration lawyer and he is looking into this as well, but given the font of knowledge here I thought I would ask. |
Originally Posted by InTheAirGuy
(Post 15869662)
I'm likely to be getting a new visa that involves the Toronto consulate; they are also unfolding a new procedure effective Feb 1, and there are some new wrinkles. As I understand it, my passport will be taken to get the new stamp, and it is returned to a UPS center "within 3-7 working days." The challenge is that this could run up against a trip to the US several days after my visa interview.
I have Nexus. I presume I likely cannot just cross with Nexus and NOT have my passport? i.e. it is absolutely a must that you must have your passport available for inspection if asked (however slim might be the likelihood). I'm working with an immigration lawyer and he is looking into this as well, but given the font of knowledge here I thought I would ask. http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/whti-ivho/menu-eng.html |
Originally Posted by payam81
(Post 15869769)
Nexus is a valid form of identification for travel between US - Canada when used at designated ports of entry, either by Air or Land. You are not required to carry a passport when using Nexus.
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/whti-ivho/menu-eng.html http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/prog/nexu...uveid-eng.html So it really would be nice to have a definitive answer. |
Originally Posted by InTheAirGuy
(Post 15869810)
That doesn't reconcile with this:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/prog/nexu...uveid-eng.html So it really would be nice to have a definitive answer. |
Originally Posted by payam81
(Post 15869866)
That notice applies to non-Canadians. If you're a Canadian citizen, then NEXUS is enough so long as you are using it at the designated lines.
If flying, you need your passport. If flying and using nexus, you need both your passport and your nexus card. It's important to note that there are no changes to the entry or re-entry requirements into Canada. While a NEXUS card may be used to board a plane departing the United States (based on a particular airlines' air carrier policy), the CBSA requires that all NEXUS program members seeking entry into Canada by air carry appropriate documentation, in addition to their NEXUS card. |
Which goes to my point - I think there is a real lack of clarity. What to do, what to do,.
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Originally Posted by InTheAirGuy
(Post 15870541)
Which goes to my point - I think there is a real lack of clarity. What to do, what to do,.
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Originally Posted by Derek
(Post 15870303)
How do you figure? It talks about citizens, but is specifically for land and marine entry, and makes it clear a passport is required for air travel.
If flying, you need your passport. If flying and using nexus, you need both your passport and your nexus card. It's important to note that there are no changes to the entry or re-entry requirements into Canada. While a NEXUS card may be used to board a plane departing the United States (based on a particular airlines' air carrier policy), the CBSA requires that all NEXUS program members seeking entry into Canada by air carry appropriate documentation, in addition to their NEXUS card. This is from CBP's website: Q: What Documents Must You Present? A: A foreign national entering the U.S. is required to present a passport and valid visa issued by a U.S. Consular Official unless they are a citizen of a country eligible for the Visa Waiver Program, a lawful permanent resident of the U.S., or a citizen of Canada. (Visa Waiver Program). A foreign national traveling by air who is a citizen of a country eligible for the Visa Waiver Program must have an approved ESTA and valid passport before traveling to the U.S. (Electronic System for Travel Authorization). Canadian citizens must present a passport when entering or departing the U.S. by air. Canadian citizens returning home from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean or Bermuda, by land or sea, will be required to present one of the following travel documents: Passport, Enhanced Driver's License (EDL), Trusted Traveler Card (NEXUS, SENTRI or FAST), or Secure Certificate of Indian Status. Exceptions: Exceptions to the requirements include:
U.S. Lawful Permanent Residents are required to present a Permanent Resident Card or other evidence of permanent resident status. U.S. and Canadian citizen children under age 16 arriving by land or sea from contiguous territory may also present an original or copy of his or her birth certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad or a Canadian Citizenship Card. Canadian citizen children under age 19 arriving by land or sea from contiguous territory and traveling with a school group, religious group, social or cultural organization, or sports team, may also present an original or copy of his or her birth certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad, or a Canadian Citizenship Card. ( Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative ) Lawful Permanent Residents of the United States are required to present their permanent resident card (Form I-551) or other valid evidence of permanent residence status. A passport is not required for entry into the United States. For further information, see "How Do I Become a Lawful Permanent Resident While in the United States?" and "How Do I Get a Travel Document?" ( How Do I Become a Lawful Permanent Resident While in the United States? ) ( How Do I Get a Travel Document? ) Information for Canadian Citizens Regarding Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) and Air Travel Canadian citizens traveling by air to, through or from the United States must present a valid passport or a valid NEXUS card when used at kiosks at participating airports. This requirement applies to all travelers, regardless of age, including children. |
Oh boy, another thread on carrying a passport or not by air. Please ensure you also go back through this thread, it comes up about every 10 pages or so.
By land, a Nexus card is all that is required. That is clear. That's not the way it is with air though. Note that in addition to the Canada entry requirements listed, in the post above, the line about using Nexus cards specify in conjunction with a Nexus kiosk. And assuming that the kiosk's are available and in working order 100% of the time, then maybe it would be ok. And if there was a guarantee of never getting a random inspection, then maybe you could get away with it. But the reality is, that's not the case. The machines go down (you can see reports of it on this thread). People get sent for secondary inspection (and in secondary, I have been specifically asked for a passport before - I do not even want to think about what the repercussions would have been if I said no, I do not.) Think of it this way - say you must speak with an officer, and regardless of what the site says, they are insistent on seeing a passport. Might you be able to appeal later. Ok - I'll give the benefit of the doubt here. Could you be blocked from entering the US at that moment (and possibly for a few years in the future) and lose your Nexus privileges. Yes, that almost certainly would happen. Add to this the fact that most airlines, especially US-based ones, will not accept a Nexus card as ID to board the plane and/or at check in. I have at times been able to board with a Nexus card, but certainly not always. Yes, there is also a line in the post above about this, but note it specifically mentions "based on a particular airlines' air carrier policy." At a minimum, this may take a lot of convincing. I know even UA staff in YYZ will make you show a passport. Even when their OLCI will accept a Nexus number as ID. In fact, one of the UA staff who knows me stated in no uncertain terms that their policy, at least in that location, is that they need to see a passport. Yes, you might be able to get away with it. And yes, we will all sometimes do what we want to do, sometimes even regardless of advice given against it. IntheairGuy, are you prepared to live with any consequences that may result. I know I'm not prepared to, but really, only you can decide that for you. |
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