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global happy traveller Feb 2, 2011 10:59 am


Originally Posted by N1120A (Post 15787377)
Its TSA-esque really. Though, I think part of it is just power trips from the CBP.



It seems the GE offices are more aware, which is the strange thing.



Of course they have the equipment. How else could they enroll people in NEXUS, which has required the prints for some time now? The only people affected appear to be some of the oldest legacy NEXUS people. My girlfriend, who enrolled in 2007, didn't have to get reprinted.

i had mine in 2005 and was told to redo everything

emcampbe Feb 2, 2011 11:42 am


Originally Posted by N1120A (Post 15787377)
Of course they have the equipment. How else could they enroll people in NEXUS, which has required the prints for some time now? The only people affected appear to be some of the oldest legacy NEXUS people. My girlfriend, who enrolled in 2007, didn't have to get reprinted.

You should try reading Plumber's post again - it specifically talks about passport reading equipment for GE - not the fingerprint scanners.

Of course, if what was told is true, wonder how CBP has been entering passport info. into the Nexus system before, since they have obviously needed to do that in the past. Perhaps manually? Or perhaps different since GE requires your passport to be swiped in the machine, while Nexus does not.

N1120A Feb 2, 2011 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 15787930)
You should try reading Plumber's post again - it specifically talks about passport reading equipment for GE - not the fingerprint scanners.

Of course, if what was told is true, wonder how CBP has been entering passport info. into the Nexus system before, since they have obviously needed to do that in the past. Perhaps manually? Or perhaps different since GE requires your passport to be swiped in the machine, while Nexus does not.

1) My passport was swiped at my NEXUS interview at the Whirlpool Bridge. Any CBP facility is going to have swipe areas on the keyboards.

2) The passport thing isn't an issue with the NEXUS to GE swap. It wasn't even before the addition of non-US NEXUS and SENTRI (remember, the Mexicans get GE too, which is cool) members to the program. Your passport information is already in GOES, which is the system all 4 programs (NEXUS/SENTRI/FAST/GE) use. Your passport information is already in the system. The issue is that GE uses fingerprints as the biometric control instead of an Iris scan (I wish they would change that).

N1120A Feb 3, 2011 12:34 am


Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller (Post 15787626)
i had mine in 2005 and was told to redo everything

That makes sense. You likely didn't get the fingerprints. That said, aren't you due for a renewal anyway, which means a new interview + 10 fingers?

Shareholder Feb 3, 2011 4:33 am


Originally Posted by NordsFan (Post 15775134)
Not at YUL...dropped by yesterday afternoon at 1500 and both the CBSA guy and the CBP officer told they didn't have the proper equipment to capture 10 fingerprints....the CBP guy, who told me was also a NEXUS member and had received the same emails and postcards, said that the Global Entry link to NEXUS had "been rolled out too quick"....he also mentioned that YUL "might" have the right equipment in a month or so...

They scan four fingers on each hand separately, then the two thumbs. Is all they have the single finger scanner? Hard to believe.

As for proper equipment, since most of us have eight fingers and two thumbs, not sure how they'd handle 10 fingers and two thumbs... So maybe the guy's correct, they don't have a 10 finger scanner!

Shareholder Feb 3, 2011 4:36 am

Used the kiosk at EWR on Tuesday having flown PORTER to that airport. Seems my file has been fixed and everything worked fine. However, the final agent at the exit pulled me aside after I handed him my printout card and he saw my Canadian passport, asking if I had a green card that he wanted to see. Apparently nobody has told most of the agents that Canadians are now eligible to participate in GE. Up until now, just eligible US and Dutch residents have been able to use GE. (Hmmm, is that because the Dutch used to own Manhattan Island?)

BTW guess DEN is not considered one of the top gateway airports in the USA. No GE there yet.

emcampbe Feb 3, 2011 9:05 am


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 15792966)
Apparently nobody has told most of the agents that Canadians Nexus members are now eligible to participate in GE. Up until now, just eligible US and Dutch residents have been able to use GE. (Hmmm, is that because the Dutch used to own Manhattan Island?)

my formatted edits above are only for accuracy. Canadians, at least the non-nexus members, which I'm guessing are the majority, are not eligible for GE. Only the subset of Canadians that are Nexus members are.

PhotoJim Feb 3, 2011 9:16 am


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 15792966)
BTW guess DEN is not considered one of the top gateway airports in the USA. No GE there yet.

I've heard that GE people can jump the immigration queue at non-GE airports like DEN and MSP... do you (or does anyone else here) know anything about that? The GE site is not very helpful.

I will ask the people at the GE office at ORD in May if I need to; unfortunately that is the first opportunity I'll be at a GE airport.

Shareholder Feb 3, 2011 11:27 am


Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 15794339)
I've heard that GE people can jump the immigration queue at non-GE airports like DEN and MSP... do you (or does anyone else here) know anything about that? The GE site is not very helpful.

I will ask the people at the GE office at ORD in May if I need to; unfortunately that is the first opportunity I'll be at a GE airport.

A Canadian passport holder with the GE sticker can use the US Resident line if it is shorter. Not sure about any other fast track.

Shareholder Feb 3, 2011 11:35 am


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 15794257)
my formatted edits above are only for accuracy. Canadians, at least the non-nexus members, which I'm guessing are the majority, are not eligible for GE. Only the subset of Canadians that are Nexus members are.

Any Canadian with a valid passport can apply for GE even if not a NEXUS member. S/he will pay the higher fee so it makes sense to do NEXUS first and then do GE. Obviously it makes sense to have both and pay the lower of the two fees. And before advertising it to Canadians generally it has been deemed logical to start with NEXUS members as they have already done the same screening, etc as is required for GE. It is quite unlikely that many Canadians who enter NAmerica through US gateways on a regular basis would not already be NEXUS members. And after all, the Dutch don't have NEXUS but can get GE. I recognize your attempt at accuracy.

pzb Feb 3, 2011 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by Plumber (Post 15779294)
SPoke with the YOW enrollment center today- they do not have the equipment to enrol me for Global Entry- specifically the passport reader needed to set me up in GE...said it will likley be a month or 2...said the program was rolled out before they were told anything.

I did my NEXUS enrollment at YOW in 2008 (or maybe even 2007) and didn't have to do anything extra when they rolled out GE. My account was automatically updated and I used it at BOS last month without issue.

If they didn't do prints at YOW, then I guess they could have pulled them from a file at another agency, but something tells me that wouldn't go to that trouble.

emcampbe Feb 4, 2011 7:57 am


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 15795354)
Any Canadian with a valid passport can apply for GE even if not a NEXUS member.

Source on this?

From the GE eligibility page (http://www.globalentry.gov/eligibility.html):


Global Entry is open to U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents, Dutch citizens, and Mexican nationals.
Still don't see Canadian's on there. It has, however, been updated to include Mexican nationals, which was pretty recent.

PhotoJim Feb 4, 2011 9:11 am

Canadians can't *apply* for GE yet... but if they have NEXUS and 10 fingerprints on file, they get GE automatically as of December 2010.

lance_chutney Feb 4, 2011 11:20 am

YYZ T1 US Nexus...pulled over again
 
Has anyone recently been sent to US immigration a bunch of times in a row? I just hit 4 straight times at YYZ T1 after going probably 6 months of breezing through. I am a US citizen, if that matters. It is very frustrating.

PreferBulkhead Feb 4, 2011 11:21 am

Not many times in a row - no - however both I and Mrs PB have been sent randomly for secondary, only to have the officers inside wonder why the heck we are their and wave us right through.


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