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Cattle Airlines Mar 16, 2012 12:45 pm

Trip report of NEXUS interview (initial application, not a renewal).

Walked into office. US agent called me by name. Yikes! Does he also know I'm wearing dirty underwear...just kidding! He is courteous and talks a mile a minute about the program. Confirms some information on the application but does not ask probing or difficult questions. Takes photos and finger prints. Says I get enrolled in Global Entry.

Takes me to the Canadian office. Their man also talks a mile a minute and goes over some NEXUS rules. If someone has mild old age dementia, they wouldn't be able to keep up with all that fast talking!

Total time spent was approximately 10 minutes.

The approval letter has a confusing paragraph.

If you enrolled in Global Entry, you may begin using the kiosk immediately. Global Entry cards are only issued to Global Entry members who are U.S. citizens, Lawful Permanent Residents or Mexican Nationals (who are not current SENTRI members). Global Entry cards are not valid at the Global Entry kiosks.

The bolded statement sounds confusing. What does it mean?

hazcaddy Mar 16, 2012 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 18213193)
Be careful coming to the US with Nexus (not GE) - the paper declaration card says "food", and thus everything and anything that could be considered food (I think chewing gum is safe) must be declared and you will go to secondary to clear it.

My daughter was told by the US guy at her enrolment interview "if you can poop it out, you must declare it".

That sounds an awful lot like all food.

ricktoronto Mar 16, 2012 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by Cattle Airlines (Post 18213696)
The approval letter has a confusing paragraph.

If you enrolled in Global Entry, you may begin using the kiosk immediately. Global Entry cards are only issued to Global Entry members who are U.S. citizens, Lawful Permanent Residents or Mexican Nationals (who are not current SENTRI members). Global Entry cards are not valid at the Global Entry kiosks.

The bolded statement sounds confusing. What does it mean?

The GE kiosk uses first your passport then your fingerprints and never uses a card so it is not valid there as it won't work there. I don't think they work at NEXUS antennas either so maybe they could save a few bucks and not issue cards to anyone.

If they do, then the cards would be like NEXUS cards for automobile use. Perhaps Mexico to USA they do that?

B1 Mar 16, 2012 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 18213193)
The paper declaration card says "food", and thus everything and anything that could be considered food (I think chewing gum is safe) must be declared and you will go to secondary to clear it.

The plain term "food" on the US form is in the middle of a line that reads something like "dead animals, twigs..." Canada does not want to know about food in general. The important point is to declare any food for the US airport clearance because if you don't and they find it you are subject to a potential punishment. Secondary is not a form of punishment, only clarification, and it is pretty quick.

Cattle Airlines Mar 16, 2012 2:43 pm

What is permitted?
 
I was looking over the pamphlets and information that they gave to me. I'm not certain what is permitted and what isn't. My understanding for a US citizen is, when traveling by car to Canada for a day:

Entering Canada by car:
May use NEXUS lanes if gifts less than $60, non-agricultural food (like cookies and candy), limited agriculture, like one turkey, 2 dozen eggs, $20 in dairy products, etc.

Returning to the US by car:
May use NEXUS lanes if nothing brought back
or
Uncertain if only small quantities of non-agricultural food (like package of cookies) as the information sheet just says that meat and fruit must be declared, even if permitted.

emcampbe Mar 16, 2012 5:16 pm


Originally Posted by Cattle Airlines (Post 18213696)
Global Entry cards are not valid at the Global Entry kiosks.

The bolded statement sounds confusing. What does it mean?

GE cards are for use entering the US by land. The kiosks only exist in the airport. Therefore, you don't need (and can't use) the GE card at a kiosk. Since i have Nexus, I have no need for a GE card, but they are relatively new (maybe about a year), and I'm guessing one would hold it up to the RFID reader when entering the US by land, same way you to with a NEXUS card.

emcampbe Mar 16, 2012 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by Cattle Airlines (Post 18214431)
I was looking over the pamphlets and information that they gave to me. I'm not certain what is permitted and what isn't. My understanding for a US citizen is, when traveling by car to Canada for a day:

Entering Canada by car:
May use NEXUS lanes if gifts less than $60, non-agricultural food (like cookies and candy), limited agriculture, like one turkey, 2 dozen eggs, $20 in dairy products, etc.

Returning to the US by car:
May use NEXUS lanes if nothing brought back
or
Uncertain if only small quantities of non-agricultural food (like package of cookies) as the information sheet just says that meat and fruit must be declared, even if permitted.

You should be able to use the Nexus lane back into the US as long as you don't have commercial goods. The difference is, US-bound, you make a verbal declaration to the officer. Going into Canada, if you have soemthing to declare, you're supposed to make the declaration using one of the TDC forms either from the older booklets, or downloading online.

I don't cross via land much, so others might know better, but my interpretation for going into Canada by land has always been that if I would have to answer "yes" to anything on the declaration form you fill out when flying, then you can't use the Nexus lane.

bill12 Mar 16, 2012 6:43 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 18215262)
You should be able to use the Nexus lane back into the US as long as you don't have commercial goods. The difference is, US-bound, you make a verbal declaration to the officer. Going into Canada, if you have soemthing to declare, you're supposed to make the declaration using one of the TDC forms either from the older booklets, or downloading online.

I don't cross via land much, so others might know better, but my interpretation for going into Canada by land has always been that if I would have to answer "yes" to anything on the declaration form you fill out when flying, then you can't use the Nexus lane.

You can now apparently make a verbal declaration at NEXUS land crossings. I asked about it when I last made a land crossing a few months ago, and the agent confirmed so.

morphius909 Mar 16, 2012 6:58 pm


Originally Posted by Cattle Airlines (Post 18213696)
Trip report of NEXUS interview (initial application, not a renewal).

Walked into office. US agent called me by name. Yikes! Does he also know I'm wearing dirty underwear...just kidding! He is courteous and talks a mile a minute about the program. Confirms some information on the application but does not ask probing or difficult questions. Takes photos and finger prints. Says I get enrolled in Global Entry.

Takes me to the Canadian office. Their man also talks a mile a minute and goes over some NEXUS rules. If someone has mild old age dementia, they wouldn't be able to keep up with all that fast talking!

Total time spent was approximately 10 minutes.

The approval letter has a confusing paragraph.

If you enrolled in Global Entry, you may begin using the kiosk immediately. Global Entry cards are only issued to Global Entry members who are U.S. citizens, Lawful Permanent Residents or Mexican Nationals (who are not current SENTRI members). Global Entry cards are not valid at the Global Entry kiosks.

The bolded statement sounds confusing. What does it mean?

Sounds simple enough.

Me
Wife
6yo
2 yo
are schedule for an interview On wednesday at YEG. Let's hope it's no more then 10 minutes with 2 kids :)

propofol Mar 17, 2012 7:09 am


Originally Posted by bill12 (Post 18215669)
You can now apparently make a verbal declaration at NEXUS land crossings. I asked about it when I last made a land crossing a few months ago, and the agent confirmed so.

This is true - we did it a couple of months ago and did not fill out a TDC. The guard waved us through... I'm not sure what would happen if he was going to charge us duty - maybe he would just put it through on the credit card we had registered?

morphius909 Mar 21, 2012 1:05 pm

Nexus interview this morning at YEG.

40 minutes in all for all 4 of us. Fairly smooth :)

Tip:

-Make sure you bring your passport, DL AND Birth Certificate, even though it doesn't state that on the scheduling or invite. I had to fax the BCs afterwards to the office.

HerpaYvr Mar 21, 2012 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 18215240)
GE cards are for use entering the US by land. The kiosks only exist in the airport. Therefore, you don't need (and can't use) the GE card at a kiosk. Since i have Nexus, I have no need for a GE card, but they are relatively new (maybe about a year), and I'm guessing one would hold it up to the RFID reader when entering the US by land, same way you to with a NEXUS card.

When the Nexus machines are down we use the GE machines, except last week I had my twelve year old and childrean are not finger printed so no GE for him. We did our GE and brought our son along and they processed him normally with us. GE is handy when you travel from overseas through the US to Canada.


Originally Posted by Cattle Airlines (Post 18214431)
I was looking over the pamphlets and information that they gave to me. I'm not certain what is permitted and what isn't. My understanding for a US citizen is, when traveling by car to Canada for a day:

Entering Canada by car:
May use NEXUS lanes if gifts less than $60, non-agricultural food (like cookies and candy), limited agriculture, like one turkey, 2 dozen eggs, $20 in dairy products, etc.

Returning to the US by car:
May use NEXUS lanes if nothing brought back
or
Uncertain if only small quantities of non-agricultural food (like package of cookies) as the information sheet just says that meat and fruit must be declared, even if permitted.

When crossing in Vancouver many people like me when I am there cross over for gas and groceries and we do a verbal declaration instead of filling out the cards. If they are busy, you are sent on your way, you use the cards, they will process it and you pay 100% of the time!;)

Shareholder Mar 21, 2012 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by morphius909 (Post 18245752)
Nexus interview this morning at YEG.

40 minutes in all for all 4 of us. Fairly smooth :)

Tip:

-Make sure you bring your passport, DL AND Birth Certificate, even though it doesn't state that on the scheduling or invite. I had to fax the BCs afterwards to the office.

It states clearly on the web site that you must have all the documents being referenced (proof of nationality/birth, passport, drivers license if also applying for NEXUS land) and proof of your current address (utility or tax bill) for presentation at the interview.

Shareholder Mar 21, 2012 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by propofol (Post 18212537)
re: Nexus and food

My wife and I just returned back from LHR and used Nexus on our return at YYZ. As background, we are always careful to declare food items when returning in our car (even muffins!) over a land crossing, lest the agent complain we didn't follow the rules. (We were warned exhaustively about this at our interview.)

When returning by plane, though, the kiosk asks you if you answered Yes to any of the questions on the customs form. But, the question about food on the form doesn't ask "Do you have any food on you?", rather it specifies certain types of food ("Meat/meat products; dairy products; fruits; vegetables; seeds; nuts; plants and animals or their parts/products; cut flowers; soil; wood/wood products; birds; insects."). If I have a few chocolate bars/candy from abroad in my bag, I can honestly answer "No" to that question. Therefore, when I get to the Nexus kiosk, I can honestly answer "No" to the question about whether I had indicated "Yes" on my customs card. (Confused yet? :))

So, what is the correct procedure when returning by air, and carrying foods not listed on the Canadian customs form? Should I tick "Yes" on the form (even though the food I have is not listed)? Am I at risk of confiscation of my Nexus card if I don't declare candy/chocolate and I am sent to secondary?

Thanks!


The kiosk only asks if you answered YES to any of the questions on the white card, so that's what you respond to. As you note, chocolates are not among the food items listed on the form, so you should not have checked YES on the form. And there would be no conflict between the kiosk response and the card. (It is different upon entry to the US since the blue form question related to food is not the same. Having chocolates would require a YES response on the kiosk as well as the blue card. This may not always lead to a secondary, depending upon how the screening officer (who takes the cards) questions you and is satisfied that the chocolates are not a prohibited item.

The loophole we've identified and often referred to here is for those using GLOBAL ENTRY where the food question is more specific and akin to the Canadian form question. Since one does not have to submit the blue form when using GE, there would be no conflict between the kiosk response and the one of the card.

bostonoski Mar 22, 2012 9:12 am


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 18248502)
It states clearly on the web site that you must have all the documents being referenced (proof of nationality/birth, passport, drivers license if also applying for NEXUS land) and proof of your current address (utility or tax bill) for presentation at the interview.

I'm awaiting processing of my application, and am curious about this.

On my application I used only a passport for proof of citizenship, it didn't ask for more. I used a DL for proof of my American address, again it didn't ask for more.

Since I have no idea where my birth certificate is (I'd have to order a new copy, I guess), I am hopeful that I will not need it. Anyone who can confirm they did not need a BC for NEXUS interview?

Thanks.


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