Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Aug 3, 2017, 11:45 am
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Ah, you just reminded me of something, sir..... @:-)
Back in 1965, the Panagra service between the U.S. and South America was most likely part of an interchange service involving two other airlines, being National and Pan American World Airways. On routes from New York, I believe National was responsible for the leg from NYC to Miami. Pan Am would then take over from MIA to Panama City, Panama with Panagra then continuing on from Panama to various destinations in South America.
29. So from Miami to Antofagasta in 1965, perhaps the correct answer is actually Pan Am and Panagra operating an interchange flight with a DC-8.
Back in 1965, the Panagra service between the U.S. and South America was most likely part of an interchange service involving two other airlines, being National and Pan American World Airways. On routes from New York, I believe National was responsible for the leg from NYC to Miami. Pan Am would then take over from MIA to Panama City, Panama with Panagra then continuing on from Panama to various destinations in South America.
29. So from Miami to Antofagasta in 1965, perhaps the correct answer is actually Pan Am and Panagra operating an interchange flight with a DC-8.
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It was a 3-way interchange, so here's the schedule in the National timetable.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...a64/na67-8.jpg
They all did the marketing (hence why I would call national in Miami), but the aircraft were supplied wholly by Panagra. However, the had National crews JFK-MIA, Pan Am crews MIA-PTY, and Panagra crews south of there.
Panagra had no licences north of Panama, but had a maintenance base in Miami and the exec offices were in New York. They were owned 50% by pan Am, but the CAB required them to be rigorously separated in operations. The Panagra aircraft also operated a number of National's domestic JFK-MIA runs, to get them to/from the Miami base.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...a64/na67-8.jpg
They all did the marketing (hence why I would call national in Miami), but the aircraft were supplied wholly by Panagra. However, the had National crews JFK-MIA, Pan Am crews MIA-PTY, and Panagra crews south of there.
Panagra had no licences north of Panama, but had a maintenance base in Miami and the exec offices were in New York. They were owned 50% by pan Am, but the CAB required them to be rigorously separated in operations. The Panagra aircraft also operated a number of National's domestic JFK-MIA runs, to get them to/from the Miami base.
Aug 3, 2017, 1:14 pm
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It was a 3-way interchange, so here's the schedule in the National timetable.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...a64/na67-8.jpg
They all did the marketing (hence why I would call national in Miami), but the aircraft were supplied wholly by Panagra. However, the had National crews JFK-MIA, Pan Am crews MIA-PTY, and Panagra crews south of there.
Panagra had no licences north of Panama, but had a maintenance base in Miami and the exec offices were in New York. They were owned 50% by pan Am, but the CAB required them to be rigorously separated in operations. The Panagra aircraft also operated a number of National's domestic JFK-MIA runs, to get them to/from the Miami base.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...a64/na67-8.jpg
They all did the marketing (hence why I would call national in Miami), but the aircraft were supplied wholly by Panagra. However, the had National crews JFK-MIA, Pan Am crews MIA-PTY, and Panagra crews south of there.
Panagra had no licences north of Panama, but had a maintenance base in Miami and the exec offices were in New York. They were owned 50% by pan Am, but the CAB required them to be rigorously separated in operations. The Panagra aircraft also operated a number of National's domestic JFK-MIA runs, to get them to/from the Miami base.
Aug 3, 2017, 1:35 pm
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- Douglas DC-8: Alitalia, Iberia, KLM, Panagra, Braniff (IB, KL and PG correct) AZ and BN are incorrect
- Boeing 707: Air France, Lufthansa (AF and LH are correct)
- Convair 990: SAS, Swissair (SR is correct) SK is incorrect
- De Haviland Comet: Aerolineas Argentinas (No Comets served this route in 1965)
- Vickers VC-10: BOAC (BOAC is incorrect)
- DC8 -- Canadian Pacific, Aeronaves de Mexico
- 990 -- APSA (Peruvian)
- AR -- Caravelle
- VC-10 -- British United
Aug 4, 2017, 10:04 am
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35. If you wanted to fly out of Bangkok aboard a Comet, which airline would you call?
I'm going with Malaysian Airlines or Malaysian-Singapore Airlines using Mk4 Comets leased from BOAC.
Right you are, VH-RMD. Was MSA's service anywhere near as highly regarded as that of its offspring Singapore Airlines?
I'm going with Malaysian Airlines or Malaysian-Singapore Airlines using Mk4 Comets leased from BOAC.
Right you are, VH-RMD. Was MSA's service anywhere near as highly regarded as that of its offspring Singapore Airlines?
Aug 4, 2017, 10:39 am
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73. Where would you be if you were enjoying a beer at the Sourdough Bar?
When people think of Sourdough, SFO comes to mind, but would this be in Ketchikan (sp), Alaska up in your neck of the country?
The answer can be found amidst the ages of the July 2017 issue of Airways Magazine. The bar was aboard an aircraft, but not an Alaska Airlines Convair 880.
When people think of Sourdough, SFO comes to mind, but would this be in Ketchikan (sp), Alaska up in your neck of the country?
The answer can be found amidst the ages of the July 2017 issue of Airways Magazine. The bar was aboard an aircraft, but not an Alaska Airlines Convair 880.
Aug 4, 2017, 10:56 am
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Aug 4, 2017, 5:36 pm
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I am probably one of the very few here who have flown on MSA back in the day when its 707s would fly SIN (Paya Lebar) - KUL (Subang now SZB) - perhaps either BKK (DMK now), somewhere in India, BAH (mandatory refuel/crew stop - QF did the same), southern Europe (ATH or FCO), northern Europe (FRA or AMS) before getting to LHR. Didn't know that MSA actually existed for such a short period ('66-'72 and don't remember if I ever flew on Malayan/Malaysian Airways, or on any Comets. One thing that was offered back then was complimentary 5 or 10-packs of cigarettes and perhaps liquor in mini bottles (I was much too young to partake) in economy. FC had a lounge just behind 1L though the crew usually used that as work station. Economy service was of course higher back then than now/recent.
Aug 6, 2017, 9:45 am
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34. If in 1965 you wanted to fly aboard a Boeing 720B between London and Beirut – regardless of enroute stops – which airline would you call?
I'm thinking this may have been PIA: Pakistan International Airlines (PK).
If so, depending on the day of the week, intermediate stops were made at different locations in Europe en route.
I like your thinking, JL. PIA it is! ^
I'm thinking this may have been PIA: Pakistan International Airlines (PK).
If so, depending on the day of the week, intermediate stops were made at different locations in Europe en route.
I like your thinking, JL. PIA it is! ^
Aug 6, 2017, 10:06 am
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31. The Buenos Aires to Santiago route is served nonstop by eleven airlines, each operating jet equipment. The jets were built by five different manufacturers. Each airline operates only a single jet type on this route. Identify each of the five jets and match it with the airline(s) that operates it.
HINT: One aircraft type is operated by 5 airlines, two aircraft types are operated by two airlines each and the last two types are unique to just one airline each.
I think I'll take a run at this:
HINT: One aircraft type is operated by 5 airlines, two aircraft types are operated by two airlines each and the last two types are unique to just one airline each.
I think I'll take a run at this:
- Douglas DC-8: Alitalia, Iberia, KLM, Panagra, Braniff, Canadian Pacific, Aeronaves de Mexico(IB, KL, CP and PG correct) AZ, AM and BN are incorrect
- Boeing 707: Air France, Lufthansa (AF and LH are correct)
- Convair 990: SAS, APSA, Swissair (SR and EP are correct) SK is incorrect
- De Haviland Comet: Aerolineas Argentinas (No Comets served this route in 1965)
- Vickers VC-10: BOAC, British United (BOAC and BUA are incorrect)
- Caravelle: Aerolineas Argentinas (AR is incorrect)
- DC8 -- Canadian Pacific, Aeronaves de Mexico (CP is correct) AM is incorrect
- 990 -- APSA (Peruvian) (APSA is correct)
- AR -- Caravelle (Caravelle is correct) AR is incorrect
- VC-10 -- British United BUA is incorrect (But close!)
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