Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Jul 28, 2017, 10:03 am
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Speaking of AOM and Cuba, here's a bonus quiz item:
At one point, AOM was operating a DC-10 departure from Havana which made an intermediate stop en route to France. This flight was only operated once a week. Identify this intermediate stop which was in the western hemisphere but was not in Cuba.
At one point, AOM was operating a DC-10 departure from Havana which made an intermediate stop en route to France. This flight was only operated once a week. Identify this intermediate stop which was in the western hemisphere but was not in Cuba.
Jul 28, 2017, 10:18 am
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26. Tired of Continental’s then lackluster service between Houston and Merida, you decide to check out the competition’s nonstop, which operates four days per week. Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying upon.
28. If you wanted to fly on a jet out of Ponce, Puerto Rico, it used to be you had to call Eastern Airlines. These days another airline is the sole operator of jet flights out of Ponce with nonstop flights to two mainland cities. Identify the airline operating these flights and the two destinations served.
28. I think this may have been Carnival Air Lines (KW) operating B727-200 flights from Ponce to both Newark (EWR) and New York (JFK) with some specific flights perhaps serving both airports (such as a routing of PSE-JFK-EWR or PSE-EWR-JFK).
Jul 28, 2017, 10:51 am
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I cannot recall any scheduled CV-880 operations at DFW. Delta, of course, operated the 880 into Dallas Love Field, including this interesting flight in 1962:
DL 892: San Francisco (SFO) 1:05a - 6:05a Dallas (DAL) 7:00a - 7:59a New Orleans (MSY) 9:30a - 12:50p Montego Bay (MBJ) 1:20p - 3:39p Caracas (CCS)
Op: Fridays only
Equip: CV-880
Service classes: F/R (first & tourist)
And this engenders yet another bonus quiz item......
Besides Dallas Love Field, the Convair 880 was operated in scheduled passenger service into four other airports in Texas. Identify all four airports and for bonus points identify the airlines as well.
DL 892: San Francisco (SFO) 1:05a - 6:05a Dallas (DAL) 7:00a - 7:59a New Orleans (MSY) 9:30a - 12:50p Montego Bay (MBJ) 1:20p - 3:39p Caracas (CCS)
Op: Fridays only
Equip: CV-880
Service classes: F/R (first & tourist)
And this engenders yet another bonus quiz item......
Besides Dallas Love Field, the Convair 880 was operated in scheduled passenger service into four other airports in Texas. Identify all four airports and for bonus points identify the airlines as well.
Jul 28, 2017, 12:37 pm
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However, it's the fourth 880 destination in Texas that might be a bit harder to guess as it was not El Paso (ELP).
And to the best of my knowledge, Delta did not operate the Convair 880 in an interchange service with AA as I think DL had been granted route authority between Texas and California shortly after the airline introduced DC-8 and CV-880 flights. I could be wrong, of course, although a 1960 Delta timetable lists AA-DL interchange flights operated with B707, B720, DC-6, DC-7, DC-7B and DC-8 equipment....but not with the 880.
So please guess again!
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Jul 28, 2017, 12:43 pm
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Fort de France (FDF) would appear to be a logical choice.....and I probably would have made the same guess myself.
However, the AOM flight did not stop there. In fact, the flight in question did not stop at a French controlled island in the Caribbean.
But it did make this stop on an island where another country's flag had previously flown.
However, the AOM flight did not stop there. In fact, the flight in question did not stop at a French controlled island in the Caribbean.
But it did make this stop on an island where another country's flag had previously flown.
Jul 28, 2017, 1:21 pm
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Jul 28, 2017, 2:48 pm
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Bingo! Here are a couple of Delta schedules from 1962....
DL 895: New Orleans (MSY) 7:20a - 8:25a Fort Worth (GSW) 8:55a - 9:45a San Diego (SAN) 10:15a - 10:47a Los Angeles (LAX)
Op: Daily
Equip: CV-880 Royal JET Service
DL 894: Los Angeles (LAX) 4:55p - 9:30p Fort Worth (GSW) 10:00p - 10:57p New Orleans (MSY)
Op: Daily
Equip: CV-880 Royal JET Service
And GSW was about the closest location to DFW that ever saw 880 service....
BTW, Greater Southwest was originally named Amon Carter Field (ACF).
DL 895: New Orleans (MSY) 7:20a - 8:25a Fort Worth (GSW) 8:55a - 9:45a San Diego (SAN) 10:15a - 10:47a Los Angeles (LAX)
Op: Daily
Equip: CV-880 Royal JET Service
DL 894: Los Angeles (LAX) 4:55p - 9:30p Fort Worth (GSW) 10:00p - 10:57p New Orleans (MSY)
Op: Daily
Equip: CV-880 Royal JET Service
And GSW was about the closest location to DFW that ever saw 880 service....
BTW, Greater Southwest was originally named Amon Carter Field (ACF).
Jul 28, 2017, 10:53 pm
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If AOM was operating on behalf of Cubana, perhaps the stop was YQX where flights from eastern Europe to HAV did make stops. And the national flag for Newfoundland did change (arguably only very slightly) in 1949.
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AOM also did a range of flights, both scheduled and holiday flights, from Paris to the Dominican Republic, as this became a European resort of choice from the late 1980s. Santo Domingo is the commercial centre whereas Puerto Plata is the European resort destination (mirrored by Havana and Varadero respectively in Cuba). I'll go for a DC-10 triangle flight Paris-Havana-Puerto Plata-Paris.
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Gander is an excellent guess! However, the stop was not made in YQX....it was made at an island with a decidedly tropical atmosphere.
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AOM also did a range of flights, both scheduled and holiday flights, from Paris to the Dominican Republic, as this became a European resort of choice from the late 1980s. Santo Domingo is the commercial centre whereas Puerto Plata is the European resort destination (mirrored by Havana and Varadero respectively in Cuba). I'll go for a DC-10 triangle flight Paris-Havana-Puerto Plata-Paris.
And with that, I'm off to our friendly local garden shop for more St. Augustine s.....er...turf....as our backyard lawn restoration project continues to evolve.
P.S. - Ah, Varadero. I've never been there....nor to Cuba. But we did overfly VRA a few months ago en route from Grand Cayman to Miami and from my vantage point in a window seat in F on board an AA A319, it appeared to be a modern airport and terminal.
And speaking of the Caribbean, I am now on course to add a new destination to my rather lengthy list of tropical islands visited in the region: Providenciales (PLS) in the Turks & Caicos. Lady K and yours truly will spend a week on the beach down there in early October.
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Jul 30, 2017, 10:51 am
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26. Tired of Continental’s then lackluster service between Houston and Merida, you decide to check out the competition’s nonstop, which operates four days per week. Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying upon.
I believe the airline in question was mentioned several times recently here on OTAQ&D: Aviateca (GU). If so, equipment in 1991 probably was a B737-300.
Correct you are,JL! Here's the schedule:
GU 921 IAH-MID 1250p – 250p 733 X135
If you wanted to fly on a jet out of Ponce, Puerto Rico, it used to be you had to call Eastern Airlines. These days another airline is the sole operator of jet flights out of Ponce with nonstop flights to two mainland cities. Identify the airline operating these flights and the two destinations served.
I think this may have been Carnival Air Lines (KW) operating B727-200 flights from Ponce to both Newark (EWR) and New York (JFK) with some specific flights perhaps serving both airports (such as a routing of PSE-JFK-EWR or PSE-EWR-JFK).
You've correctly identified Carnival Air Lines as the carrier of record. Additionally, KW did indeed operate a 727-200 on a Sunday only schedule between Ponce and New York JFK.
We are still looking for one additional airport served by KW from Ponce. As well, a different aircraft type was utilized on this route.
I believe the airline in question was mentioned several times recently here on OTAQ&D: Aviateca (GU). If so, equipment in 1991 probably was a B737-300.
Correct you are,JL! Here's the schedule:
GU 921 IAH-MID 1250p – 250p 733 X135
If you wanted to fly on a jet out of Ponce, Puerto Rico, it used to be you had to call Eastern Airlines. These days another airline is the sole operator of jet flights out of Ponce with nonstop flights to two mainland cities. Identify the airline operating these flights and the two destinations served.
I think this may have been Carnival Air Lines (KW) operating B727-200 flights from Ponce to both Newark (EWR) and New York (JFK) with some specific flights perhaps serving both airports (such as a routing of PSE-JFK-EWR or PSE-EWR-JFK).
You've correctly identified Carnival Air Lines as the carrier of record. Additionally, KW did indeed operate a 727-200 on a Sunday only schedule between Ponce and New York JFK.
We are still looking for one additional airport served by KW from Ponce. As well, a different aircraft type was utilized on this route.
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the Convair 880 was operated in scheduled passenger service into four other airports in Texas
Further bonus question.
The Convair 340/440 sold pretty well to a range of mainstream European carriers, while the Convair 990 jet ran for a number as well (I once saw three different carriers' 990s alongside one another at Heathrow Terminal 2.
However, the Convair 880 - did that ever even appear in Europe ? And if so, with who ?
Jul 30, 2017, 11:30 am
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28- Carnival Airlines, obviously closely affiliated with the eponymous cruise line, had a fair amount of service at the port of Fort Lauderdale (FLL) ... I seem to recall that KW operated the 737-400 as well as the 72S