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Warning Re: Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method
It came to my attention that UA has recently redesigned its website to provide inaccurate/fake availability data to the Tool's Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method while providing genuine availability data only when a user clicks the [Flight Details] button for each flight on the United.com website.
Until this recent development took place, the availability data shown by United.com in "the expert mode" and availability shown using the Apollo/ITN/UA method would always match. Therefore, it is recommended that you do not use the Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method until further notice as the data shown there will not be reliable. This does not in any way affect other access methods, such as Amadeus/AUA/*A and Sabre/ITN/AX. These access methods continue to report accurate and reliable availability data for UA and other airlines. |
Several other threads have been started indicating that ITN does not seem to show (at least for North American routes) the I fare bucket any more? What is going on?
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KVS Availability Tool - AC/ Air Canada
This thread is a branch-off from the Master KVS Availability Tool thread, and is intended for discussion and support on AC and Aeroplan-specific issues.
Please continue to use the main thread for all other matters, and http://www.KVSTool.com for membership-related matters. Availability: AC Booking Classes Displayed by the KVS Tool (AC Award/Upgrade classes are in green):
Aeroplan Star Alliance & Partner Award Availability:
Fares, Fare/Routing Rules:
Seat Maps: AC Seat Maps are available via the [Amadeus Text] & [Amadeus Enhanced] options. Timetables: AC flights are supported. Operational Info/Flight Tracking:
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As can be seen from the chart above, I class is no longer displayed via the Worldspan: ITN/CWT method for domestic/transborder flights. I strongly suspect that this change was initiated by AC itself...
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AC Booking Classes
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
Several other threads have been started indicating that ITN does not seem to show (at least for North American routes) the I fare bucket any more? What is going on?
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Originally Posted by KVS
As can be seen from the chart above, I class is no longer displayed via the Worldspan: ITN/CWT method for domestic/transborder flights. I strongly suspect that this change was initiated by AC itself...
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
KVS, do you think it's possible that AC is making some changes to "I" and hence retracing it from particular (but not all) views? Any reason for these changes?
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For awhile we have been waiting for a hopefully more common situation where "I > C" and that this would occur once some "upgrades" or "enhancements" have been made to the system. Could this be one of those "changes"?
Also, do you think they would allow "I" to be redisplayed where they have been retracted recently, once these "hopeful" changes have been made? Of course, everything here is speculation (I admit) but many here would love to know what on earth is going on and the reasons behind it... |
Originally Posted by yyznomad
Also, do you think they would allow "I" to be redisplayed where they have been retracted recently, once these "hopeful" changes have been made?
Having said that, you can still see I class via Apollo: ITN/CWT, Amadeus: AUA/*A & Galileo methods, so let's hope that it stays that way... |
There would certainly be a lot less complaining about I<C, if we could never see I. Interestingly it does show on international so there would still be insentive to buy M class on those routes. It's almost like they have thought this out as part of their evil plan... :)
However, presumably travel agents need to see the information, so I don't think they can completely hide it. |
Originally Posted by yyzgigi
However, presumably travel agents need to see the information, so I don't think they can completely hide it.
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Quick question: I'm assuming that there is no way of searching for AC D and W inventory?
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Originally Posted by yyzgigi
There would certainly be a lot less complaining about I<C, if we could never see I.
Originally Posted by yyzgigi
Interestingly it does show on international so there would still be insentive to buy M class on those routes.
Originally Posted by yyzgigi
However, presumably travel agents need to see the information
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Originally Posted by inlanikai
I class is still available on ExpertFlyer.com.
P.S. Has EF started paying commissions? ;)
Originally Posted by ReluctantCanadian
Quick question: I'm assuming that there is no way of searching for AC D and W inventory?
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There have been various other KVS Availability threads started elsewhere and it appears this is more than just Aeroplan and of course borders on a commercial application. As I have done for ExpertFlyer.com as well, I am moving this thread to TravelBuzz! as well as consolidating other threads as well so that the availability of the topic and toll remains open for all members. The tool is not specific to frequent flyer miles and thus the decision to move to TravelBuzz! rather than MilesBuzz!. Those of you who use the tool will certainly be able to continue using this thread for updates and Q/A.
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