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alect Oct 21, 2005 11:14 pm


Originally Posted by KVS
Could you try following the troubleshooting steps posted above (starting from post #533)?

IE is set to accept cookies......not sure what else?

portiaeliot Oct 22, 2005 11:03 am

Availability varies by Point Of Sale?
 
Hi -

I use the FULL version of the KVS tool, and I had a question. Today I tried to buy an itinerary in France that showed available seats on KVS, but which my travel agent said was sold out (she was using Amadeus). So I checked again when I came home, and KVS shows availability (on Amadeus). Now in the KVS tool I don't need to choose a Sale City for Amadeus, so I don't think it is that.

Has anyone experienced this? Is there something I am doing wrong in my search? Or are there just fewer seats available for France? :)

The search is on Amadeus, "All Airlines":
FDF --> POS outbound 25 Nov 2005 (the sold-out flight is LI 1807/TX 807, FDF --> SLU), inbound POS --> FDF 5 Dec 2005 (there is availability).

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks

KVS Oct 22, 2005 11:34 am


Originally Posted by portiaeliot
The search is on Amadeus, "All Airlines":
FDF --> POS outbound 25 Nov 2005 (the sold-out flight is LI 1807/TX 807, FDF --> SLU), inbound POS --> FDF 5 Dec 2005 (there is availability).

I somewhat doubt that an airline like LI/TX would play with availability based on the POS. Also, I just checked, and there does not seem to be any availability for your return flight:

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]
Code:

SLU  St Lucia Metro / St Lucia Vigie LC = SLU UVF [TLPC]
FDF  Ft De France Lamentin MQ [TFFF]
MON  05 Dec 2005

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ------------
LI/TX    1808  SLU  17:40    FDF  18:00    D28  0  Y0 B0 Q0
LI/TX    1810  SLU  19:25    FDF  19:45    D28  0  Y0 B0 Q0


SNAPLT Oct 23, 2005 3:44 am

KVS, please check your Pvt Msg's..I msg'd you and I'm waiting for the reg code
 
Hi KVS,

Sorry to bother you but can you pls check your pvt msg and msg me back with the registration code for system #12284. Thanks.

Best Regards,

asimha Oct 24, 2005 9:59 am

KVS, problem registering through Amazon
 
Hi I sent you a PM on this, serail number is 1946877951
Thanks!
Andre

fly2waleed Oct 25, 2005 12:29 am

hi
i get this in amazon 4 upgrade

Recipient Unable to Receive Payments

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We are not able to continue with this transaction because the recipient is unable to receive payments through the Amazon Honor System at this time.
Please try again at a later time.

KVS Oct 25, 2005 4:27 pm

asimha, fly2waleed: YGPM.


Originally Posted by alect
IE is set to accept cookies......not sure what else?

Try the large [FARES] button at the top of the screen -- does that bring-up fares in USD?

ButIsItArt Oct 25, 2005 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by fly2waleed
hi
i get this in amazon 4 upgrade

Recipient Unable to Receive Payments

------
We are not able to continue with this transaction because the recipient is unable to receive payments through the Amazon Honor System at this time.
Please try again at a later time.

Same problem.

fool4miles Oct 25, 2005 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by fly2waleed
hi
i get this in amazon 4 upgrade

Recipient Unable to Receive Payments

------
We are not able to continue with this transaction because the recipient is unable to receive payments through the Amazon Honor System at this time.
Please try again at a later time.


#1 i had the same problem-----amazon system not working for kvs right now, try one of the other methods. i just did moneybookers over the weekend and im now enjoying full access!

#2 ? for kvs.....i scanned the posts; am i able to pull CO pnr's via the tool? so far no luck!

thanks, great software for award availability checks! :D :D :D

KVS Oct 25, 2005 10:56 pm


Originally Posted by fool4miles
#2 ? for kvs.....i scanned the posts; am i able to pull CO pnr's via the tool? so far no luck!

If you can't access CO PNRs via Amadeus, it means that CO is blocking them from being viewed... However, if you make a booking through a TA (that uses any of the 4/5 major GDSs), you would then be able to see it.

Michael Tantini Oct 26, 2005 6:34 pm

Award Classes for American Airlines
 

Originally Posted by ricktoronto
Well in reality J and F are full fare J and F and are not the classes that people want to use e.g. nobody wants to do AAnytime awards at double the tariff. I have to say that you did say and quoted yourself that the "upgrade classes" are in green. Unless someone has C, T, U, A, R and X you haven't got the straight dope, albeit this service is free.


Sorry guys, the whole thing is confusing for me...

Which classes are being used by AA for Award tickets in

Economy
Business
First

Is there maybe an overview of booking classes for AWARDS used by the most airlines (i.e. AA, LX, LH, LO etc)? Sorry, I didn't find it :(


Is there a way to look up the availability in the KVS tool?

KVS Oct 27, 2005 3:46 pm

Award/Upgrade Booking Classes
 

Originally Posted by Michael Tantini
Is there maybe an overview of booking classes for AWARDS used by the most airlines (i.e. AA, LX, LH, LO etc)? Sorry, I didn't find it :(

There are listings of booking classes that the Tool can display for a number of carriers and it is located in KVS Tool FAQ Part 2 under "Classes Displayed By Airline": http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...74&postcount=2

If you click on the [AA] link within that post, it will take you to a chart of booking classes displayed for AA. Within that chart, there will also be a link that says [AA award/upgrade classes].

For all *A member airlines, there is a 'sticky' in the *A Forum that lists award/upgrade classes for each *A airline. For other airlines, you would need to check the corresponding forum.

IncyWincy Oct 30, 2005 3:33 am

How come results from KVS tool and expertflyer are different regarding availability?
 
I just noticed that the figures for availablity are different between KVS tool and expertflyer. eg, I was searching HKG-SYD for Nov 2nd on Cathay Pacific and the results for both business and first class are different. How is that?

ExpertFlyer Voice Oct 30, 2005 8:24 am


Originally Posted by IncyWincy
I just noticed that the figures for availablity are different between KVS tool and expertflyer. eg, I was searching HKG-SYD for Nov 2nd on Cathay Pacific and the results for both business and first class are different. How is that?

The two tools access different GDS systems and through different means. ExpertFlyer access it's GDS's directly under contract. Also, different GDS's will load the same inventories with different maximums indicated. Sometimes it is 9, sometimes 7, sometimes 4. Another variable is how often the airline updates the data it loads into a GDS. Some airlines, like AA, are realtime in Sabre and any changes are reflected virtually instantly.

KVS Oct 30, 2005 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by IncyWincy
I just noticed that the figures for availablity are different between KVS tool and expertflyer. eg, I was searching HKG-SYD for Nov 2nd on Cathay Pacific and the results for both business and first class are different. How is that?

First of all, see the FAQ at the top of the thread for some possible explanations. Also, as can be seen from the results below, Apollo, Amadeus & Sabre results match. ITN/WorldSpan results should be ignored when they are inconsistent with the data from other methods. Lastly, ITN/Sabre results should match what you are getting in ExpertFlyer. Is that not the case?

[KVS Availability Tool - Apollo: ITN/CWT/US-NY]
Code:

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------------
CX        139    HKG  09:00    SYD  21:00    333  0  F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
CX        111    HKG  19:15    SYD  07:20 +1  333  0  F4 A4 J6 C6 D6 I5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
CX        101    HKG  23:45    SYD  11:55 +1  343  0  F1 A1 J8 C8 D8 I7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]
Code:

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------------
CX        139    HKG  09:00    SYD  21:00    333  0  F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
CX        111    HKG  19:15    SYD  07:20 +1  333  0  F4 A4 J6 C6 D6 I5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
CX        101    HKG  23:45    SYD  11:55 +1  343  0  F1 A1 J8 C8 D8 I7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

[KVS Availability Tool - Sabre: ITN/AXP]
Code:

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- -----------------------------------------
CX        139    HKG  09:00    SYD  21:00    333  0  F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9
CX        111    HKG  19:15    SYD  07:20 +1  333  0  F4 A4 J6 C6 D6 I5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9
CX        101    HKG  23:45    SYD  11:55 +1  343  0  F1 A1 J8 C8 D8 I7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9

[KVS Availability Tool - Worldspan: ITN/CWT/US-LA]
Code:

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- -----------------------------------------------
CX        139    HKG  09:00    SYD  21:00    333  0  F4 A4 J0 C0 D0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 V9 N9 Q9
CX        111    HKG  19:15    SYD  07:20 +1  333  0  F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 V9 N9 Q9
CX        101    HKG  23:45    SYD  11:55 +1  343  0  F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 V9 N9 Q9



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