Award Availability
 

NW MSP - ZRH Jan 19, 20, 21

This is yet another bug in the new NWA engine. I will implement a workaround in the next version of the Tool.

If anyone else comes across an airport code that generates a "Message 106" or "we need you to clarify" message, please post the details here ...

Downloaded 2.7 and it's working fine. I saw the key for the new Wspan award engine. Q: Does Upgrade space = YA+ ?

No, YA is for non-space-restricted economy awards.

If one knows (or can establish) the relationship between the the standard award business class (CS) availability and the upgrade availability, then upgrade availability can be estimated using that factor...

So far in all the searches I have tired if it is CS+ then that also means that there is a upgrade fare available from a slighly discounted fare (B class). If it is a CA+ then it seems that there is a upgradabe available from a full Y fare.

If it is CA- and CS- then you are compeltly SOL.

Do others see the same thing for upgrades...

What tool did you use to confirm the correlation between CS+/CA+ and upgrade award inventory? Obviously it was KVS for the former? Was it the telephone for the latter?

Edited to add: I'm trying to upgrade an IAH-LGW flight in early May from a "Y" fare. KVS shows CS- CA+, but there is no upgrade inventory available on that flight according to NW.

WP odd displays: YS+ YA-
 

I was doing some checking and saw what I thought was an odd display of availability for YS (Perksaver) seats, but no PerkPass (YA) seats. It seemed to show up when NW/DL connections displayed through DTW on a MSP>JFK routing for 2/28/07. I'm just wondering how this could be, and if it indicates deeper problems in the credibility of what is displayed, as I always thought if a Perksaver was available on a given flight, a Perkpass was too?

PerkPass awards (YA, CA) are only applicable to NW, KL, and CO-operated flights.

I'm trying the exact same thing (upgrade IAH to LGW on CO in Y), and it shows CS- CA+. When I call there is no upgrade inventory. So I assume that CA+ does not correlate to upgrade inventory from Y.

Ok understood. I am going to do a little checking over the next couple of days. I know of one flight that has upgrade space and I am goint to take a look now.

I just looked at SFO-HKG and happen to know that there are 4 "u" seats open on this particular flight. The results show:

YS+ YA+ CS- CA+

I called and there is upgrade availability from "B". This seems to contradict an earlier post but we should keep digging at it.

I should have specified that I was only looking at NW and KLM flights. I was not looking at CO.

My understanding is the CO can limit their upgrade availabity to Worldperks members. I.E. an upgrade might be available for a OnePass member and not to WorldPerks member for the same flight despite the class being upgraded from.

I just called CO to find out if there was upgrade eligibility on my flight, which KVS is still showing as CS- CA+, using OnePass miles (to eliminate the hypothetical variable that WorldPerks members have access to more limited upgrade inventory on CO flights). CO said no. So I think that your case is coincidental, rather than evidence of a correlation. Too bad.

I am getting an error 106 when doing most of my searches - including JFK-ACC, MOW-BOM, LBV-CDG, etc. - both when airline is specified and not.

HELP,
A.

I am guessing that XXX-ACC probably doesn't work for security reasons.

MOW-BOM works (when there is availability), e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.7.1/Platinum - ITA: Awards/SkyTeam/JP-NWA]
As for LBV, I am not quite sure ...