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-   -   KVS Availability Tool (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-tools/319244-kvs-availability-tool.html)

KVS Feb 3, 2007 1:27 pm
Originally Posted by Chewie (Post 7152102)
Not sure if it's just me, but it seems as though the Worldspan: TravelASP: Text is not working correctly? I get the following error:
The servers of the WSpan booking engine are currently down. I am sure this will be resolved shortly ...

MNAudiS4 Feb 3, 2007 5:44 pm
I take it they are still down?

KVS Feb 3, 2007 6:03 pm
Originally Posted by MNAudiS4 (Post 7153268)
I take it they are still down?
Yes, I am afraid so ... In the meantime, please use one of the alternative seat map options: Apollo or Galileo.

emuyshondt Feb 5, 2007 9:47 am
Pardon the newbie question. I tried to search the thread but couldn't find the answer.

I would like to use a tool like this one or ExpertFlyer. This one is less expensive. What, if anything, do you give up by using this tool instead of ExpertFlyer? I see ExpertFlyer mentioned often, but just stumbled across this tool today and it seems to show the same kind of information. However it doesn't seem to be mentioned as much. Is there a comparison of the two systems somewhere that lists the pros and cons of each one?

KVS Feb 5, 2007 1:25 pm
Originally Posted by emuyshondt (Post 7162623)
Pardon the newbie question. I tried to search the thread but couldn't find the answer.

I would like to use a tool like this one or ExpertFlyer. This one is less expensive. What, if anything, do you give up by using this tool instead of ExpertFlyer? I see ExpertFlyer mentioned often, but just stumbled across this tool today and it seems to show the same kind of information. However it doesn't seem to be mentioned as much. Is there a comparison of the two systems somewhere that lists the pros and cons of each one?
Since the answer to this question ultimately depends on your particular needs and preferences, you may find it helpful to review the list of features (http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Tool/#Levels) and the screenshots (http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Tool/Screenshots.php), and compare them to the corresponding pages, relating to the other service.

As to the similarities that you may have noticed, KVS Tool was 'born' in May 2004, while the 'other service' made its debut in Jan 2005 ;) ...

MNAudiS4 Feb 5, 2007 2:12 pm
Is there any type of update on why the WorldSPAN seatmap is still not working.

Thanks

Dave

KVS Feb 5, 2007 2:34 pm
Originally Posted by MNAudiS4 (Post 7164006)
Is there any type of update on why the WorldSPAN seatmap is still not working.
I was able to confirm a technical problem with that seatmap engine and the appropriate parties have already been notified ... Thanks for your patience ...

ExpertFlyer Voice Feb 5, 2007 8:14 pm
Originally Posted by emuyshondt (Post 7162623)
Pardon the newbie question. I tried to search the thread but couldn't find the answer.

I would like to use a tool like this one or ExpertFlyer. This one is less expensive. What, if anything, do you give up by using this tool instead of ExpertFlyer? I see ExpertFlyer mentioned often, but just stumbled across this tool today and it seems to show the same kind of information. However it doesn't seem to be mentioned as much. Is there a comparison of the two systems somewhere that lists the pros and cons of each one?
Here is a link to ExpertFlyer services so you can compare:

https://www.expertflyer.com/rates.jsp

Also, there are differences in what airlines' upgrade and award availability are viewable. There are many other differences as well.

virtualtroy Feb 5, 2007 10:42 pm
Originally Posted by emuyshondt (Post 7162623)
Pardon the newbie question. I tried to search the thread but couldn't find the answer.

I would like to use a tool like this one or ExpertFlyer. This one is less expensive. What, if anything, do you give up by using this tool instead of ExpertFlyer? I see ExpertFlyer mentioned often, but just stumbled across this tool today and it seems to show the same kind of information. However it doesn't seem to be mentioned as much. Is there a comparison of the two systems somewhere that lists the pros and cons of each one?
Some opinion (including my own) on both products here:

http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=647811

Jeff_in_phoenix Feb 7, 2007 7:37 am
Any suggestions on where to see an Asiana seatmap while Worldspan is down? Gallileo and Apollo do not show OZ.

KVS Feb 7, 2007 12:16 pm
Originally Posted by Jeff_in_phoenix (Post 7174744)
Any suggestions on where to see an Asiana seatmap while Worldspan is down? Gallileo and Apollo do not show OZ.
I am afraid there is no alternative source for OZ seat maps ...

satprof Feb 7, 2007 3:56 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 7071656)
I am pleased to note that QF award booking classes are back again (via Sabre: ITN), e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.7.2/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/US-AXC1]
Code:
MEL  Melbourne Tullamarine VI AU [YMML]
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY
THU  01 Nov 2007

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -----------------------------------------
QF        9      MEL  17:10    LHR  05:30 +1  744  1    F6 A6 Z1 P0 J9 C9 D9 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9
QF        29    MEL  23:59    LHR  13:20 +1  744  1    F7 A7 Z2 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9
As a complete newbie, I'm reluctant to question this, but currently I'm not getting the Z or U inventories unless I specify at least a second airline. Am I up an (Australian) gum tree? (Seems fairly clear to me - the same itin leaves out Z and U classes with just QF but they are there if I add CX as a second airline.)

KVS Feb 7, 2007 4:14 pm
Originally Posted by satprof (Post 7178142)
As a complete newbie, I'm reluctant to question this, but currently I'm not getting the Z or U inventories unless I specify at least a second airline. Am I up an (Australian) gum tree? (Seems fairly clear to me - the same itin leaves out Z and U classes with just QF but they are there if I add CX as a second airline.)
Are you sure that you are using the [Sabre: ITN] Method, when searching for QF Z/U availability? And if so, could you provide a sample From/To/Date?

Leumas Feb 7, 2007 6:50 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 7178266)
Are you sure that you are using the [Sabre: ITN] Method, when searching for QF Z/U availability? And if so, could you provide a sample From/To/Date?
I use it to check flights on 2 June. SYD-JFK (QF107).

KVS Feb 7, 2007 7:03 pm
Originally Posted by Leumas (Post 7179364)
I use it to check flights on 2 June. SYD-JFK (QF107).
Seems to work OK:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.7.4/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/US-AXC1]
Code:
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA EWR
SAT  02 Jun 2007

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -----------------------------------------
QF        107    SYD  10:20    JFK  17:20    744  1    F9 A9 Z0 P0 J9 C9 D9 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9
QF        175    SYD  07:50    LAX  07:00    744  1    J9 C9 D9 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0
 -> QF    107    LAX  09:05    JFK  17:20    744  0    F9 A9 Z0 P0 J9 C9 D9 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9


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