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KVS Oct 31, 2006 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by BF263533
When I try to access fares through this tool if receive the following message:

Unable To Retrieve Fares - CRS Error: Please check the dates you have entered-

Whether a date is present or one is present, I still get the same error message???

It's an issue with the ZUJI engine, which manifests itself when a month change is about to occur (i.e. on the last day of each month).

To get around it, temporarily change your system date to be the 1st of next month (e.g. 01 Nov), and run the query again.

KVS Nov 2, 2006 4:41 pm

Version 2.5.2 Released
 
See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...32#post6561732

tsgsjm Nov 2, 2006 7:24 pm

I take it that the SRS timetable functionality is nolonger available as it has been removed??

ual744777sta Nov 2, 2006 7:56 pm

I'm having trouble with KVS tool right now. It's giving me an error
Error 35756 "Unable to complete request"

KVS Nov 2, 2006 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by ual744777sta
I'm having trouble with KVS tool right now. It's giving me an error
Error 35756 "Unable to complete request"

Pls see the FAQ at the beginning of the thread under "Error Messages".

KVS Nov 3, 2006 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by tsgsjm
I take it that the SRS timetable functionality is nolonger available as it has been removed??

Yes. Please use the [Amadeus Timetables] instead -- it's the first large button at the top.

Shilla Nov 4, 2006 3:39 am

Hi,

I have a question concerning the Worldspan seat maps: When I try to access the seat map for Y class, the result only shows the first rows of Y. Is there any way to see the following rows ?

By the way: great tool ^

TrayflowInUK Nov 5, 2006 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by KVS
What's New in Version 2.5.2:
  • Resolved: Airline preference being ignored, when using the ITN-based methods.
  • New keyboard shortcut added:
    <Ctrl> + <PgUp>/<PgDown>: Request availability for previous/next day
[Download Version 2.5.2 Now]

KVS, how cool that you implemented my suggestion! I tried CTRL+PG UP/DN and it's GREAT!

I know that beggars can't be choosers, but I do have four more suggestions for you that would further enhance this already excellent program:

(1) Let's say I'm trying to piece together an itinerary, maybe it's an award itinerary. So I trawl through loads of different city pairs and dates, trying to find that rare open award seat in business class. A-ha! I found something, but it's not ideal. Okay, fine, I'll keep searching, but I'll set that flight aside for the time being and keep looking. Knowing me, if I don't write it down or paste it somewhere, I'll forget it. Currently, if I want to do this, I have to copy the whole thing to the clipboard or WordPad/Excel, including all the flights that came up from that query. This takes additional time as I then need to clean up the pasted data just to leave the flight that I like, plus I have to use another programme when I'd just as soon use the KVS tool only. Solution: How about putting in a separate window, maybe a split window at the bottom of the search results pane, where you can just dump the results of that ONE flight that you like, and then keep on searching, adding other flight possibilities or manually building segments until you get an itinerary you like? E.g., you could just right-click the flight you like best and dump it to the "holding bin" while you keep searching. As you go, you could continue to add more and more flights to the holding bin, and they would be sorted in chronological order.

(2) I find it a pain to have to right-click a particular flight to display its distance and duration; how about adding some columns to the right w/ this info?

(3) I find the "my trips" tab to be really useful, I've got quite a few trips stored in there that I am periodically checking for upgrade space. However, the drop down menu seems to have them stored by when they were saved, not by departure date. Could this be changed so they're ordered by departure date?

(4) Following on from (3), would it be possible to make it so that clicking the green arrow next to the selected saved itinerary not only populates the "Input" tab with the appropriate information but also selects the search method originally used (e.g., Apollo, Wspan, etc.)?

Thanks!

KVS Nov 6, 2006 10:45 am


Originally Posted by Shilla
I have a question concerning the Worldspan seat maps: When I try to access the seat map for Y class, the result only shows the first rows of Y. Is there any way to see the following rows ?

By the way: great tool ^

Pls see the FAQ, Part 3: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...45#post2804945

KVS Nov 10, 2006 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
KVS, how cool that you implemented my suggestion! I tried CTRL+PG UP/DN and it's GREAT!


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
Solution: How about putting in a separate window, maybe a split window at the bottom of the search results pane, where you can just dump the results

I will keep your suggestion in mind for the future. However, I have also made a few changes in the upcoming version that will partly address this issue:
  • CTRL+P will send the displayed results to a new Wordpad window (in the current version, only 1 Wordpad window can be open at-a-time).


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
(2) I find it a pain to have to right-click a particular flight to display its distance and duration; how about adding some columns to the right w/ this info?

Sorry, but this is by design -- I would like to avoid having a horizontal scrollbar, that is why all the 'extra' info is displayed in the pop-up menu.


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
(3) I find the "my trips" tab to be really useful, I've got quite a few trips stored in there that I am periodically checking for upgrade space. However, the drop down menu seems to have them stored by when they were saved, not by departure date. Could this be changed so they're ordered by departure date?

There is no easy way to do it at this point, as it would lead to the loss of all previously-saved trips...


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
(4) Following on from (3), would it be possible to make it so that clicking the green arrow next to the selected saved itinerary not only populates the "Input" tab with the appropriate information but also selects the search method originally used (e.g., Apollo, Wspan, etc.)?

Yes, I will see if it can be done for the upcoming version...

KVS Nov 10, 2006 4:17 pm

(The FAQs, located at the top of this thread, have been updated)

KVS Nov 11, 2006 2:45 pm

FAQ Part 2 updated to include a section on [Using the Tool to Plan a MR]: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...80#post2804880

TrayflowInUK Nov 12, 2006 2:31 am


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
How about putting in a separate window, maybe a split window at the bottom of the search results pane, where you can just dump the results


Originally Posted by KVS
I will keep your suggestion in mind for the future. However, I have also made a few changes in the upcoming version that will partly address this issue:
  • CTRL+P will send the displayed results to a new Wordpad window (in the current version, only 1 Wordpad window can be open at-a-time).

I have tried this in 2.5.2, but it only works for one set of data, so this doesn't really address the usefulness of having a scratch pad to just dump data to. If it would append results to the WordPad window each time then this would be okay. Alternatively it could open a new NotePad window each time you hit CTRL-P.

Reading your response, I thought of yet another way to do this... years ago there was an award availability finder that we FTers used to find awards and hidden classes. I can't remember the name of it. It had a similar layout to the KVS tool... data input at the top of the application window, results window at the bottom. But there were actually eight results windows, tabbed with numbers 1-8 (using tabs similar to your Input, Filter, MyTrips, MyPNRs tabs).

So you would start on Tab 1 (for instance), do a query, and if you liked the results, click on Tab 2 and do more queries. When you found something else you liked, you'd move onto Tab 3, and so on. Then you could always click back to Tab 1 where the original results would still be displayed.


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
I find it a pain to have to right-click a particular flight to display its distance and duration; how about adding some columns to the right w/ this info?


Originally Posted by KVS
Sorry, but this is by design -- I would like to avoid having a horizontal scrollbar, that is why all the 'extra' info is displayed in the pop-up menu.

Yes, I understand, I guess right-clicking or double-clicking is the lesser of the evils.

KVS Nov 12, 2006 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
I have tried this in 2.5.2, but it only works for one set of data, so this doesn't really address the usefulness of having a scratch pad to just dump data to. If it would append results to the WordPad window each time then this would be okay. Alternatively it could open a new NotePad window each time you hit CTRL-P.

When I wrote "upcoming version", I actually meant V2.5.3, not the current version (V2.5.2) :).


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK
But there were actually eight results windows, tabbed with numbers 1-8 (using tabs similar to your Input, Filter, MyTrips, MyPNRs tabs).

Yes, I am currently considering that idea... However, the internal architecture of the KVS Tool is much more sophisticated than the 'old' text-only Tool you mentioned. An addition of 8 'tabbed windows' can cause the Tool to become a major resource hog, which is something I would like to avoid. There will also be a potential problem with the [FILTER] and [MY TRIPS] tabs, as they would need to relate to each of the 8 windows.

In the meantime, at the Gold/Platinum level, you can run as many independent instances of the Tool, as you require. You can then right-click on the Windows taskbar and use the [Cascade Windows] option to automatically 'stack' them on the screen, like this:

http://xs108.xs.to/xs108/06450/KVSTo...adeWindows.gif

DarrenT Nov 13, 2006 5:44 am

Had a host problem... now resolved itself.


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