It's not about booking classes, but I think this is the right thread to ask...

I am using KVS Platinum and trying out the PNR tools, but am having no joy. All 4 methods say that it is the wrong code or last name. Should I be using the 6 digit alpha-numeric Booking Code that I received from aircanada.com? The same that (in theory) I would enter when using 'View bookings' on aircanada.com?

I've had problems using it there, and was told that because a CSR had to make changes, that I can't view it using 'View bookings'. Could this same thing affect all the global PNR locators?

Confused,

Dr. PITUK

I'm glad you asked... I've had the same type of question but never bothered asking and just gave up!

That does not make lots of sense.

They sell more economy, yes. And they will give opups if needed.

But that does not mean that they would cut the number of seats available in J in order to sell more in Y. Indeed, they can list the available seats in both categories, and sell them as either, until the plane fills up.

J0 means it's fully booked in J. J1 means it's all booked (but not necessarily allocated) except for one seat.

Plus, we know that AC does not overbook J.

Thanks

So in order to actually book a consolidated fare, where can that be done. Are they still available thru engines like ITA, or are the only available thru certain wholesalers or something?

Also, the rules often don't include a booking code. How can one find this out?

It would make more sense to ask this question on the KVS thread on Travel Buzz which is where the discussion on KVS now take place.

I agree that it makes no sense, however during busy periods where J is not in demand, you will see it done. The only reason I can think of why they do it is that the J and Y buckets are independent of each other and that the legacy systems are not set up to dynamically take a seat out of J if a seat in Y is sold and that it has to be done manually as the route controller sees fit.

AC’s Revenue Management sometimes does continue selling the J cabin seats and sometimes they do not. Within Revenue Management the general practice is called “cabin sizing.”

Bookings made directly with AC cannot be accessed via the PNR manager, as they are stored in AC's proprietary RES III system and are not visible to the 'outside world'.

However, you can retrieve AC bookings made via a TA.

Those consolidator fares will not show-up on ITA, etc -- you would need to book via Zuji.com. The rules for consolidator fares are also very brief, so you would need to contact them directly to confirm the booking class.

Thanks KVS.

So now AC won't let me see my bookings on their system OR an outside system!! Grrrrr

Dr. PITUK

Version 2.4.0 Released
 

What's New in Version 2.4.0:

• WorldSpan: Awards/SkyTeam Method:
  
  This new access method gives you access to availability in award and upgrade booking classes for a number of SkyTeam airlines:
  
  Classes shown by the WorldSpan: Awards/SkyTeam Method:
  
  
  • NW: R A W (Domestic)
  • NW: D W (Intl)
    
  • KL: J C I S B M K H L Q T V W
    
  • DL: F A R Y B M H Q K L U T E N (Domestic)
  • DL: J D I O Y B M H Q K L U T E N (Intl)
    
  • CO: A/J P D Z R F E Y H K N B O V U Q I S W T X L G
    
  • AF: C D Z F O Y S B K H T V L R M Q X U W E A N I G (Short-Haul)
  • AF: P F A J C D I Z O Y B K H W T V X L N G U (Long-Haul)
    
  • OK: J C D I Z Y M B H T L Q E N V S G U W R
    
  • AM: J A D C Y B M S K Q N H X T L V U
    
  • AS: F U A Y S B M H Q L V K G T W
    

What's New in Version 2.3.1:

• Sabre: Fares/ZUJ Method: This new method is a replacement for the Fares/TCY method and allows you to view fares for a specific cabin class (e.g. Economy/Business/First). All published (incl. international) fares for the next 12 months are shown.
  
  
• Due to the recent changes to the Amadeus: AUA engine, the list of airlines supported by that method has, unfortunately, been reduced as follows: *A + AY BA EI MA QF AF KL AZ DL MX OK .
  
  
• New Fares Booking Class Filter
  • You can now filter fares by booking class(es) (the first letter of the Fare Basis code). To do so, enter the required booking class(es) in the "Display only the following classes:" field.
    
    Note: Some fares book into a class that is different than the first letter of the Fare Basis.

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For a quick visual demo of the Tool's features, available at each level, goto [View Screenshots].

[Download Version 2.4.0 Now].

I can't get CO fare codes to come up with the NWAWP tool. It says "No award seat is available for the date you selected." All I wanted to do was find CO's F inventory. I take it that's the only way to find CO F, correct?

There has to be at least 1 award seat available (in any cabin) for a flight to show-up via the NWAWP method:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.4.0/Platinum - WSpan: Awards/NWAWP/JP]

KVS Availability Tool FAQ/User Guide, Part 1 has been updated to reflect the latest changes/additions.

Award/Upgrade classes data is now available for 15+ airlines.

How come no AZ rewards? Will they be added soon (considering that they are skyteam..?)