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KVS Mar 20, 2008 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by WHBM (Post 9437406)
And, believe it or not, I've worked in IT all my career ..... !

Are you sure that it is a good idea to post that in a public forum? :D

mileageking Mar 20, 2008 11:44 pm


Originally Posted by Jet Yi (Post 9432196)
If your question is restricted to United, then the answer is as follows:

First (Free) = XF/"R"
First (UG) = NF/"X"
Business (Free) = XC/"O"
Business (UG) = NC/"I"

Note that there are actually two booking classes for each award category.

That's because United's internal systems allow some special two character booking classes (XF/NF/XC/NC) which don't work in most other booking engines including large GDSs, e.g. Abacus, Amadeus, Apollo, Sabre and Worldspan and/or major web sites, e.g. Expedia, Orbitz and Travelocity.

In either case, it's almost impossible to look at inventory levels for these booking classes.

Thanks Jet Yi, it's very much appreciated! Does anyone else know the award booking classes for SQ and AC?
Cheers!

WHBM Mar 21, 2008 6:46 pm

Thanks all

Didn't see it had placed an icon on the desktop; was looking on the website.

db8us Mar 25, 2008 6:14 am

129marbomfra
 
Hi gang,

i was just playing around with this great tool.
When i search for LH756 next Thursday i get:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FR  28 Mrz 2008

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- --------------------------------------
LH/Nacil  1610  FRA  11:35    BOM  23:50    744  0    F2 A2 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4
LH        756    FRA  13:30    BOM  01:35 +1  744  0    F9 A9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9

This flight on the way back is turning into LH757 every day, but when i use SWAP and enter 29.03.08 the flight is not showing up:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:

BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SA  29 Mrz 2008

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- --------------------------------------
LH/Nacil  1611  BOM  08:05    FRA  12:30    744  0    F2 A2 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0


Any ideas on why this is so?

Regards from India

Michael

pmcg Mar 27, 2008 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by db8us (Post 9461275)
This flight on the way back is turning into LH757 every day, but when i use SWAP and enter 29.03.08 the flight is not showing up:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:

BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SA  29 Mrz 2008

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- --------------------------------------
LH/Nacil  1611  BOM  08:05    FRA  12:30    744  0    F2 A2 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0


Any ideas on why this is so?

You probably have the time set to maybe 7am or 8am.

LH757 leaves BOM @ 03:25 so you have to set the time for the search to 00:00.

SuperFlyBoy Mar 27, 2008 9:07 pm


Originally Posted by pmcg (Post 9476706)
You probably have the time set to maybe 7am or 8am.

LH757 leaves BOM @ 03:25 so you have to set the time for the search to 00:00.

I always keep my time set to: "(any)" in the tool...

By the way, welcome to FT, Michael! (db8us!)

Note that I just tried this with my Platinum subscription, and Apollo is only showing the same info. (1 flight, LH 1611)

In Sabre I see LH757.

I would try using the tool at: www.seatcounter.com - that site has a link to a GDS similar to Sabre, I think....

KVS Mar 27, 2008 11:25 pm


Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 9478217)
I always keep my time set to: "(any)" in the tool...

By the way, welcome to FT, Michael! (db8us!)

Note that I just tried this with my Platinum subscription, and Apollo is only showing the same info. (1 flight, LH 1611)

In Sabre I see LH757.

The exact meaning of "(Any Time)" varies by Engine/GDS.

As mentioned in the KVS Tool FAQ, "If the flight departs very early (e.g. 03 [am]) or very late (e.g. 23:50), you may need to specify a specific value in the [Time:] field to make such a flight appear":

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:

BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SAT  29 Mar 2008

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- --------------------------------------
LH        757    BOM  03:25    FRA  07:45    744  0    F0 A0 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0
LH/Nacil  1611  BOM  08:05    FRA  12:30    744  0    F2 A2 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0


mileageking Mar 28, 2008 7:08 am

KVS - Error searching for Awards/StarAlliance
 
Hello,

I am getting an error message that shows "Initialization Error" "" when performing a search for availability. Is anyone else experiencing this? I can search regular fares through Sabre: ITN or Galileo: ETR, etc. however need to check *A awards availability.

Will very much appreciate if someone is able to advise ASAP if they are experiencing the same issue.

On a side note, is there a way of searching award availability by month rather than searching through each day?

Cheers.

KVS Mar 28, 2008 11:27 am


Originally Posted by 1K+ (Post 9479816)
I am getting an error message that shows "Initialization Error" "" when performing a search for availability. Is anyone else experiencing this? I can search regular fares through Sabre: ITN or Galileo: ETR, etc. however need to check *A awards availability.

An alert regarding this issue has been posted on the KVS Tool Homepage on 26 Mar.



Originally Posted by 1K+ (Post 9479816)
On a side note, is there a way of searching award availability by month rather than searching through each day?

Pls see KVS Tool FAQ.

CalFlyer Mar 29, 2008 4:59 am

Hello,

I have newly subscribed to the Lite version of the KVS tool. I found some irregularities with Qatar Airways flights displays. E.g., when searching for DOH-MUC on April 2, it does not display the widely open nonstop flight QR9. Any thoughts why?

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.51/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:

DOH  Doha QA [OTBD]
MUC  Munich Metro / Munich Franz Josef Strauss DE = MUC [EDDM]
MI  02 Apr 2008

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- --------------------------------------------------
QR        480    DOH  08:10    IST  12:25    321  0    C4 J2 D4 I4 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G0 W4 N4 X0
 -> TK    1635  IST  15:25    MUC  17:05    320  0    C7 D7 J7 Y7 B7 M7 K7 H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7 L7 V7 U7 W7 G7 A7
QR        480    DOH  08:10    IST  12:25    321  0    C4 J2 D4 I4 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G0 W4 N4 X0
 -> LH/TK 2093  IST  15:25    MUC  17:05    738  0    C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4
QR        480    DOH  08:10    IST  12:25    321  0    C4 J2 D4 I4 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G0 W4 N4 X0
 -> LH    3353  IST  16:10    MUC  17:40    321  0    C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 U0 S9 G9 K0 L0 T0 E0
QR        110    DOH  12:55    DXB  15:00    321  0    F0 P0 A0 O0 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G4 W4 N4 X4
 -> EK    51    DXB  16:30    MUC  20:55    332  0    F2 A7 J4 C4 Y7 E9 W7 M7 B7 U9 K7 Q7 H7 L7 T7 V7
QR        472    DOH  13:15    ATH  17:50    320  0    C0 J0 D0 I0 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G4 W4 N4 X0
 -> LH    3393  ATH  19:05    MUC  20:35    320  0    C9 D4 Z3 Y9 B9 M2 H0 Q0 V0 W0 U0 S0 G0 K0 L0 T0 E0
QR        472    DOH  13:15    ATH  17:50    320  0    C0 J0 D0 I0 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G4 W4 N4 X0
 -> A3/LH 1807  ATH  19:05    MUC  20:35    320  0    C0 D0 Z0 Y4 B4 M0 K0 W0 S0 H0 L0 X0 O0
QR        33    DOH  13:45    MXP  19:10    333  0    C0 J0 D0 I4 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G4 W4 N4 X4
 -> LH/CL 3909  MXP  20:45    MUC  21:55    AR8  0    C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 U9 S9 G0 K0 L0 T0 E0
AZ/QR    7015  DOH  13:45    MXP  19:10    333  0    C4 D4 I4 Y7 B7 M7 H7 K4 V1 T0 N0 L0
 -> LH/CL 3909  MXP  20:45    MUC  21:55    AR8  0    C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W0 U0 S0 G0 K0 L0 T0 E0
QR        33    DOH  13:45    MXP  19:10    333  0    C0 J0 D0 I4 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G4 W4 N4 X4
 -> EN/CL 3909  MXP  20:45    MUC  21:55    AR8  0    J4 C4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4
QR        33    DOH  13:45    MXP  19:10    333  0    C0 J0 D0 I4 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G4 W4 N4 X4
 -> EN/CL 3909  MXP  20:45    MUC  21:55    AR8  0    J4 C4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4
EY        398    DOH  22:50    AUH  00:50 +1  332  0    J4 C9 D6 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 Q4 L4 V4 T4 N0
 -> EY    5      AUH  02:15 +1  MUC  06:40 +1  332  0    J0 C0 D0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 Q4 L4 V4 T0 N4
QR        110    DOH  12:55    DXB  15:00    321  0    F0 P0 A0 O0 Y4 B4 L4 M4 Q4 K4 H4 V4 T4 G4 W4 N4 X4
 -> UL/EK 2051  DXB  16:30    MUC  20:55          0    CANCELLED

Best,

CalFlyer

KVS Mar 31, 2008 8:54 pm

Version 3.0.x: What's New
 
See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...06#post9857906

arf04 Mar 31, 2008 11:55 pm

award availability
 
I am trying to find award space availability on the first flight listed below: I cannot figure out how to interpret the results. Any ideas?

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.5/Platinum - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]
Code:

PVG  Shanghai Pu Dong CN [ZSPD]
YVR  Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR]
FRI  30 May 2008 / 1 Seat

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C      Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------
AC        38    Shan 15:45    YVR  11:45    763      FS/  CS-  YS+
AC        37    YVR  11:00 +1  Shan 14:15 +2  763      FS/  CS-  YS+


KVS Apr 1, 2008 12:02 am


Originally Posted by arf04 (Post 9498836)
I am trying to find award space availability on the first flight listed below: I cannot figure out how to interpret the results. Any ideas?

Is that before or after you read the KVS Tool User Guide?: http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Tool/FAQ.php

Also, you need to download an updated version.

arf04 Apr 1, 2008 3:55 pm

Let's make that before :o ... Got it now. Cheers.

babbyf Apr 3, 2008 6:36 am

Zuji Fare Rules
 
The Zuji fare rules don't seem to be working anymore.


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