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KVS Apr 5, 2010 8:09 pm

100% Star Alliance Award Availability Coverage via [Awards/StarAlliance]
 

Originally Posted by kryten22uk (Post 13689552)
Good news. LX availability is now under the StarAlliance Awards section rather than having to use the M&M section. ^


Originally Posted by veralinder (Post 13691556)
Ah, very nice.


Originally Posted by 4Health (Post 13691577)
I also noticed that FM and CA are showing up now. I have been searching for about 2 weeks for a flight and they never showed up. Then bam, a couple of days ago they were in every search I was doing.


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 13693959)
^


Originally Posted by 1K+ (Post 13702498)
+4 ^

Good news, indeed -- the KVS Tool website has now been updated accordingly:
LX/CA/FM award availability is now also supported by the [Awards/StarAlliance] Method. M&M members can continue to access preferred availability for integrated partners via [Awards/M&M].
So KVS Tool members can now get the best of both worlds!

otamxuan Apr 5, 2010 9:14 pm

Need help with search for AA award on CX
 
I am not sure what I am doing wrong

With Amadeus: Awards/CX, I could find YS+ on CX 879 (SFO-HKG) and CX 765 (HKG-SGN). Cathay website shows that those flights are available for economy standard award.

ExPlat desk insisted that there was no coach award on those flights, only first. Does it mean that I can't use Amadeus: Awards/CX to search for AA awards?

Please help!

Thanks!

KVS Apr 5, 2010 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by otamxuan (Post 13716439)
I am not sure what I am doing wrong

With Amadeus: Awards/CX, I could find YS+ on CX 879 (SFO-HKG) and CX 765 (HKG-SGN). Cathay website shows that those flights are available for economy standard award.

ExPlat desk insisted that there was no coach award on those flights, only first. Does it mean that I can't use Amadeus: Awards/CX to search for AA awards?

No, it just means that you may need to call AA again (and again, and again ..., until you get a competent agent).

otamxuan Apr 5, 2010 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 13716459)
No, it just means that you may need to call AA again (and again, and again ..., until you get a competent agent).

Thanks for the quick reply. Do you have tips on how to guide an agent through this process so she can find that one seat?

KVS Apr 5, 2010 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by otamxuan (Post 13716487)
Thanks for the quick reply. Do you have tips on how to guide an agent through this process so she can find that one seat?

Yes -- please see http://FAQ.KVSTool.com

otamxuan Apr 5, 2010 10:06 pm

More questions on Awards/CX
 
I noticed something strange

When I searched for SFO-SGN (on July 4), I saw FS/ CS- YS+ for CX 879 (SFO-HKG) -> CX 765 (HKG-SGN)

However, when I searched for SFO-HKG, I saw FS+ CS- YS- for CX 879.

What could cause this discrepancy? Does the economy award to SGN really exist?

Cathay website was able to bring up CX 879 & CX765 together for an economy award ticket, but I don't have Asia miles so will need to go through AA to book, and AA Explat desk only sees Z (first) inventory. Of course I can call back, but the discrepancy between 2 searches makes me less confident in what I am asking for.

KVS Apr 5, 2010 10:33 pm


Originally Posted by otamxuan (Post 13716718)
I noticed something strange

When I searched for SFO-SGN (on July 4), I saw FS/ CS- YS+ for CX 879 (SFO-HKG) -> CX 765 (HKG-SGN)

However, when I searched for SFO-HKG, I saw FS+ CS- YS- for CX 879.

What could cause this discrepancy? Does the economy award to SGN really exist?

Cathay website was able to bring up CX 879 & CX765 together for an economy award ticket, but I don't have Asia miles so will need to go through AA to book, and AA Explat desk only sees Z (first) inventory. Of course I can call back, but the discrepancy between 2 searches makes me less confident in what I am asking for.

Looks like an issue on CX's end -- [Awards/OneWorld] also shows that only F is available:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.4.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]
Code:

SFO  San Francisco Int'l CA US [KSFO]
HKG  Hong Kong Int'l HK [VHHH]
SUN  04 Jul 2010 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C      Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX        879    SFO  13:35    HKG  19:00 +1  744      FS+
AA        2578    SFO  16:45    LAX  18:05    738      FS+
 -> CX    883    LAX  23:50    HKG  05:30 +2  773
AA        2578    SFO  16:45    LAX  18:05    738      FS+
 -> CX    881    LAX  01:40 +1  HKG  07:15 +2  773
AA        18      SFO  23:15    JFK  07:40 +1  762      FS+
 -> CX    841    JFK  10:10 +1  HKG  14:05 +2  773


gleff Apr 6, 2010 5:17 am

Do whatever you can, move heaven and earth if necessary, to redeem for CX F. Best seat I've ever slept in. ^

Airbumps Apr 6, 2010 6:33 am

Idea for KVS option...
 
Hey KVS,

Great tool. I'm not sure if this function exists at the moment, but its something I've always thought would be useful.

The ability to search an entire month (or date range) for the availability for a particular class on a particular flight.

So for example, if I want to search the entire month of June for availabiltiy in Q class on TG 955 between BKK-OSL. At the moment, its a pain the rear to check each day one at a time.

Any idea if this sort of thing could be implemented?

Cheers,
AB

otamxuan Apr 6, 2010 7:00 am


Originally Posted by gleff (Post 13717816)
Do whatever you can, move heaven and earth if necessary, to redeem for CX F. Best seat I've ever slept in. ^

Thanks! I'll do that some time soon. Unfortunately, this search is for a friend, who will not even entertain the idea of traveling in C! She'd rather buy a ticket than redeem for anything other than coach.

otamxuan Apr 6, 2010 7:01 am

Thanks for checking for me. Oh well, I guess finding a coach award to Viet Nam in July/August is impossible on OneWorld now :(


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 13716816)
Looks like an issue on CX's end -- [Awards/OneWorld] also shows that only F is available:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.4.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]
Code:

SFO  San Francisco Int'l CA US [KSFO]
HKG  Hong Kong Int'l HK [VHHH]
SUN  04 Jul 2010 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C      Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX        879    SFO  13:35    HKG  19:00 +1  744      FS+
AA        2578    SFO  16:45    LAX  18:05    738      FS+
 -> CX    883    LAX  23:50    HKG  05:30 +2  773
AA        2578    SFO  16:45    LAX  18:05    738      FS+
 -> CX    881    LAX  01:40 +1  HKG  07:15 +2  773
AA        18      SFO  23:15    JFK  07:40 +1  762      FS+
 -> CX    841    JFK  10:10 +1  HKG  14:05 +2  773



sbm12 Apr 6, 2010 7:26 am


Originally Posted by Airbumps (Post 13718061)
Hey KVS,

Great tool. I'm not sure if this function exists at the moment, but its something I've always thought would be useful.

The ability to search an entire month (or date range) for the availability for a particular class on a particular flight.

So for example, if I want to search the entire month of June for availabiltiy in Q class on TG 955 between BKK-OSL. At the moment, its a pain the rear to check each day one at a time.

Any idea if this sort of thing could be implemented?

Cheers,
AB

It would require the app submitting the 30 requests for you rather than you clicking the buttons every time. The app is just reading the data from a website so it would have to repeat the query a bunch and then come up with a UI to display it in. Not likely to happen, I don't think. If nothing else, the query time would be pretty long as it runs 3-10 seconds per query for a basic inventory search, longer for things like the ANA queries for *A. Multiply that out by 30 days in one shot and you're looking at a few minutes of waiting for it to do something.

KVS Apr 6, 2010 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by Airbumps (Post 13718061)
Great tool. I'm not sure if this function exists at the moment, but its something I've always thought would be useful.

The ability to search an entire month (or date range) for the availability for a particular class on a particular flight.

So for example, if I want to search the entire month of June for availabiltiy in Q class on TG 955 between BKK-OSL. At the moment, its a pain the rear to check each day one at a time.

Any idea if this sort of thing could be implemented?

As you know, KVS Tool members continue to enjoy a number of exclusive features, including the most comprehensive award availability coverage across all 3 global airline alliances (including a 100% Star Alliance award coverage). Unfortunately, automated multiple-date search functionality would not currently be 'compatible' with these features for a number of policy and technical-related reasons.

However, you can start from 01 Jun, set a [Filter] to TG and Q class and then simply keep pressing <Ctrl>+<PgDown> until you hit an available date.

AKLDUBFlyer Apr 8, 2010 2:40 am

Hi KVS.

Great tool....just found a great fare LHR-AKL and told my travel agent (a moron on contract with my employer who only knows how to book NZ) which fare bucket to look for.....she had no idea!! Got RT fare for NZ$1,297 a.i. My accounts manager wants to use this instead of the TA now. ^^^^^^^

On another note, I have been trying to check award availability on OW for the US domestic portion of a OW - NZ-US R/T....I have the return booked (LAX-AKL), but in checking the segments BWI-LAX for 13 Jul, it give me a message of "Data cannot be checked for the specified origin / destination / Route Too Complex." Any ideas? I need this to link in with my saved award Itin for the LAX-AKL....

Many thanks....

KVS Apr 8, 2010 11:12 am


Originally Posted by AKLDUBFlyer (Post 13731770)
Great tool....just found a great fare LHR-AKL and told my travel agent (a moron on contract with my employer who only knows how to book NZ) which fare bucket to look for.....she had no idea!! Got RT fare for NZ$1,297 a.i. My accounts manager wants to use this instead of the TA now. ^^^^^^^

On another note, I have been trying to check award availability on OW for the US domestic portion of a OW - NZ-US R/T....I have the return booked (LAX-AKL), but in checking the segments BWI-LAX for 13 Jul, it give me a message of "Data cannot be checked for the specified origin / destination / Route Too Complex." Any ideas? I need this to link in with my saved award Itin for the LAX-AKL....

You need to make sure that you are using the latest version and that the POS is set to "AU-QFA-SP1".


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