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TheAirman Oct 21, 2007 9:54 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 8593070)
The ability to retrieve seat maps for zeroed-out cabins will be available in the upcoming version.

In the meantime, if you just provide the flight #/date, I can post the F seat map here...

LH428 MUC-CLT OCT27

FlyerGoldII Oct 21, 2007 10:00 am

If one wanted information on consolidator fares on airlines flying between a city pair, would that information be available with the KVS availability tool?

KVS Oct 21, 2007 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 8596634)
If one wanted information on consolidator fares on airlines flying between a city pair, would that information be available with the KVS availability tool?

No, consolidator fares are confidential and are only available through the respective consolidators.

KVS Oct 21, 2007 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by PreferBulkhead (Post 8595640)
Seems to just have started this morning??

Does show with Gallileo however ...

Comments?

AC had "simplified" :rolleyes: its NA fare structure so much that they now have over 20 booking classes, which is the max. that the Apollo method can show.

I class is also shown, when intra-NA segments are combined with intl segments, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.9.2/Platinum - WSpan: ITN/US-TAP]
Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Int'l ON CA [CYYZ]
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY
THU  01 Nov 2007

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- --------------------------------------------------
AC        422    YYZ  18:00    YUL  19:15          0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L6 A0 R9 K9 N9 G9 E0 S0 T0 I9
 -> AC    864    YUL  20:40    LHR  07:30 +1  333  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K6 N6 S6 I9


KVS Oct 21, 2007 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by TheAirman (Post 8596599)
LH428 MUC-CLT OCT27

Here it is:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.9.2/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 27 Oct 2007/LH 428/MUC-CLT/333/F]
Code:

      A    |  D  G    |  K     
 1    -        -  +        -     
 2    -        -  +        -     

[+] Available  [-] Unavailable  [W] Wing  [E] Exit Row


pmax Oct 21, 2007 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 8597261)
AC had "simplified" :rolleyes: its NA fare structure so much that they now have over 20 booking classes, which is the max. that the Apollo method can show.

I class is also shown, when intra-NA segments are combined with intl segments, e.g.:

Any chance of a workaround in the app instead of aving to find ways to make connections to determine I?

ACePJB Oct 21, 2007 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by pmax (Post 8597401)
Any chance of a workaround in the app instead of aving to find ways to make connections to determine I?

ditto

PJB

KVS Oct 21, 2007 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by pmax (Post 8597401)
Any chance of a workaround in the app instead of aving to find ways to make connections to determine I?

As is the case with all other booking classes, which are not a part of the standard availability display, you need to use the [Galileo: ETR] Method and specify the required class.

pmax Oct 21, 2007 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 8597684)
As is the case with all other booking classes, which are not a part of the standard availability display, you need to use the [Galileo: ETR] Method and specify the required class.

How about a special mode that pulls I explicitly from Galileo and merges into Apollo or similar?

TheAirman Oct 21, 2007 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 8597274)
Here it is:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.9.2/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 27 Oct 2007/LH 428/MUC-CLT/333/F]
Code:

      A    |  D  G    |  K     
 1    -        -  +        -     
 2    -        -  +        -     

[+] Available  [-] Unavailable  [W] Wing  [E] Exit Row



Thanks

PreferBulkhead Oct 21, 2007 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by ACePJB (Post 8597617)
ditto

PJB

This sounds like something the KVS tool should be able to code a workaround for. I have been told that with another tool ""I" inventory is viewable with all other revenue inventory but may be filtered so only it is viewable either before the query or after the results are displayed." That sounds like a better solution ... having to go to use two different interfaces is not a happy solution IMHO.

KVS Oct 21, 2007 9:53 pm


Originally Posted by PreferBulkhead (Post 8598329)
This sounds like something the KVS tool should be able to code a workaround for. I have been told that with another tool ""I" inventory is viewable with all other revenue inventory but may be filtered so only it is viewable either before the query or after the results are displayed." That sounds like a better solution ... having to go to use two different interfaces is not a happy solution IMHO.

I am not quite sure what is the relevance of the filtering functionality to the present issue -- KVS Tool also has a powerful filter option, and you can filter to any specific class(es), as long as those class(es) are a part of the standard availability display set (which is limited to 20).

Unfortunately, the said limit is imposed by the underlying engine and I have no control over it.

KVS Oct 21, 2007 9:58 pm


Originally Posted by pmax (Post 8597987)
How about a special mode that pulls I explicitly from Galileo and merges into Apollo or similar?

Thanks for the suggestion. However, it is currently not possible to merge data from multiple methods, due to technical and operational constraints.

ExpertFlyer Voice Oct 22, 2007 9:44 am


Originally Posted by PreferBulkhead (Post 8598329)
This sounds like something the KVS tool should be able to code a workaround for. I have been told that with another tool ""I" inventory is viewable with all other revenue inventory but may be filtered so only it is viewable either before the query or after the results are displayed." That sounds like a better solution ... having to go to use two different interfaces is not a happy solution IMHO.

Since ExpertFlyer is "the other tool" to which you refer, I'll chime in here for clarification.

Actually, ExpertFlyer can show up to 26 classes at one time if they exist and are not a "hidden" class for an AC (or any airline) flight all on one response screen since we directly access the GDSs and do not edit the results. The screen shot example on our website shows 20 classes because that is what was returned for that particular example. ExpertFlyer still shows I class for AC along with all the other fare, non-hidden classes. For example:

AC 759
0 YYZ
10/28/07 8:50 PM SFO
10/28/07 11:25 PM 320
Daily
65% / 20m J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V7 Q4 L0 A0 S1 R9 K9 N7 G4 P0 E0 T1 I9

After viewing these results, the user has the option of further filtering the results viewable, without doing another query, to any subset of the classes originally displayed.

AC D and W hidden classes are also viewable but as a separate query where those classes, either or both at the same time, are specified in the query.

Thank you,
EFV

roho Oct 23, 2007 1:34 am

Does it work with a mac?
 
Don't know if this has been asked before.
So many pages.


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