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KVS Aug 18, 2007 12:18 pm
Originally Posted by KimmyAA (Post 8253799)
Since upgrading to 2.9.1, I am unable to see QF Z and U availability for LAX to SYD flights. I'm choosing Sabre ITN. Is anyone else having a similar problem?'
Unfortunately, the old Sabre-ITN POS was decommissioned a couple of days ago, and the new POS shows a different subset of classes. I am currently looking for a replacement source for that data ...

FlyerGoldII Aug 19, 2007 5:16 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 7548237)
Yes (subject to the AC-imposed limitations regarding the Tango fares).
Travelocity has not posted the rules for AC fares for a long time. Does the KVS tool still have the availability to post the fare rules for all non-Tango fares?

patty canuck Aug 19, 2007 9:48 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 4266366)
[*]SNT: Awards/StarAlliance
  • CS=D YS=W
[/list][/list]
KVS,

Where is the SNT method in the Availability Tool?

KVS Aug 19, 2007 11:53 am
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 8256637)
Travelocity has not posted the rules for AC fares for a long time. Does the KVS tool still have the availability to post the fare rules for all non-Tango fares?
At the moment, I am not aware of any issues with displaying fare rules for AC's fares.

KVS Aug 19, 2007 11:55 am
Originally Posted by patty canuck (Post 8257351)
KVS,

Where is the SNT method in the Availability Tool?
It is in the new version: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...91#post8250891

patty canuck Aug 19, 2007 2:23 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 8257985)
Thank you KVS - class addition!^

BTW, when checking class availability as noticed on AC, there are a number of Y seats that aren't available. Considering this is off ANA's website (exterior to AC) and the prior info, I will assume that these are seats are available for classic rewards and not classic plus?

KVS Aug 20, 2007 2:04 pm
Originally Posted by patty canuck (Post 8258576)
Thank you KVS - class addition!^

BTW, when checking class availability as noticed on AC, there are a number of Y seats that aren't available. Considering this is off ANA's website (exterior to AC) and the prior info, I will assume that these are seats are available for classic rewards and not classic plus?
Indeed, the Tool shows Standard award availability (CS, YS). For AC that would translate into "Classic" rewards.

okazon69 Aug 20, 2007 9:29 pm
YUL-FRA via YVR or YYC?
 
Why would the tool show flight connecting in totally awkward places such as the examples mentioned? (Using Apollo/ITN, limit to 50 lines.) Does it simply try to fill the number of lines requested?

KVS Aug 20, 2007 9:45 pm
Re: YUL-FRA via YVR or YYC?
 
Originally Posted by okazon69 (Post 8266303)
Why would the tool show flight connecting in totally awkward places such as the examples mentioned? (Using Apollo/ITN, limit to 50 lines.) Does it simply try to fill the number of lines requested?
I just tried it (requesting AC flights), and I am not seeing any "connections in totally awkward places" :confused::

[KVS Availability Tool 2.9.1/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:
YUL  Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau QC CA [CYUL]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SAT  01 Sep 2007

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- --------------------------------------------
AC        834    YUL  17:15    FRA  06:30 +1  763  0    J9 C7 Z7 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A0 K0 N0 I6
AC        874    YUL  19:40    FRA  08:55 +1  763  0    J9 C5 Z5 Y9 M5 U5 B4 H4 V2 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I5
AC        407    YUL  10:00    YYZ  11:15    E75  0    J4 C4 Z1 Y9 M9 U0 B0 H0 V0 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I1
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C9 Z5 Y6 M6 U6 B6 H6 V6 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I5
AC/QK    7765  YUL  11:00    YYZ  12:15    CRJ  0    Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V7 Q1 L1 A1 K9 N7
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:15 +1  346  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V7 Q1 L1 K0 N0
AC/QK    7765  YUL  11:00    YYZ  12:15    CRJ  0    Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V7 Q1 L1 A1 K9 N7
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C9 Z5 Y6 M6 U6 B6 H6 V6 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I5
AC        411    YUL  12:00    YYZ  13:15    E90  0    J7 C7 Z7 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A8 K9 N9 I5
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:15 +1  346  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L8 K0 N0
AC        411    YUL  12:00    YYZ  13:15    E90  0    J7 C5 Z5 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A8 K9 N9 I5
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C9 Z5 Y6 M6 U6 B6 H6 V6 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I5
AC        413    YUL  13:00    YYZ  14:15    E90  0    J8 C7 Z6 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A0 K9 N9 I6
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C9 Z5 Y6 M6 U6 B6 H6 V6 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I5
AC        413    YUL  13:00    YYZ  14:15    E90  0    J8 C8 Z8 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A0 K9 N9 I6
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:15 +1  346  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L0 K0 N0
AC        415    YUL  14:00    YYZ  15:18    767  0    J9 C8 Z7 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L0 A0 K9 N9 I7
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C9 Z5 Y6 M6 U6 B6 H6 V6 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I5
AC        415    YUL  14:00    YYZ  15:18    767  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L0 A0 K9 N9 I7
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:15 +1  346  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q0 L0 K0 N0
AC        417    YUL  15:00    YYZ  16:18    333  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:15 +1  346  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K0 N0
AC        417    YUL  15:00    YYZ  16:18    333  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C9 Z5 Y6 M6 U6 B6 H6 V6 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I5
AC        419    YUL  16:00    YYZ  17:18    763  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    876    YYZ  22:05    FRA  11:55 +1  333  0    J9 C8 Z0 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V0 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I0
AC/LH    9098  YUL  16:05    MUC  05:30 +1  343  0    J9 C0 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V0 Q0 L0 K0 N0
 -> AC/LH 9139  MUC  08:20 +1  FRA  09:25 +1  321  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC/LH    9098  YUL  16:05    MUC  05:30 +1  343  0    J9 C0 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V0 Q0 L0 K0 N0
 -> AC/LH 9121  MUC  07:00 +1  FRA  08:05 +1  321  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        421    YUL  17:00    YYZ  18:18    E90  0    J3 C1 Z1 Y9 M9 U9 B0 H0 V0 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I1
 -> AC    876    YYZ  22:05    FRA  11:55 +1  333  0    J9 C8 Z0 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V0 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I0
AC/LX    6820  YUL  17:00    ZRH  06:15 +1  330  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H0 V0 Q0 L0 A0 K9 N9
 -> AC/LH 9029  ZRH  10:20 +1  FRA  11:25 +1  320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        892    YUL  17:25    FCO  07:25 +1  767  0    Y9 M7 U7 B7 H0 V0 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0
 -> AC/LH 9301  FCO  10:10 +1  FRA  12:10 +1  321  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        423    YUL  18:00    YYZ  19:15    E90  0    J7 C5 Z5 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I5
 -> AC    876    YYZ  22:05    FRA  11:55 +1  333  0    J9 C8 Z0 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V0 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I0
AC        425    YUL  19:00    YYZ  20:18    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q0 L0 A0 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    876    YYZ  22:05    FRA  11:55 +1  333  0    J9 C8 Z0 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V0 Q0 L0 A0 K0 N0 I0

onlysuites Aug 21, 2007 3:18 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 8253822)
Unfortunately, the old Sabre-ITN POS was decommissioned a couple of days ago, and the new POS shows a different subset of classes. I am currently looking for a replacement source for that data ...
Thank you so much for the *A award availability ^

Cyba Aug 21, 2007 6:19 am
I have difficulties pulling up some BA fares. For examples I can't seem to pull up I-class and D-class fares between London and Europe and can only pull up full J fares from NYC to LON. I'm trying both sabre methods. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

okazon69 Aug 21, 2007 6:35 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 8266362)
I just tried it (requesting AC flights), and I am not seeing any "connections in totally awkward places" :confused::
But I am ... YUL-YVR-FRA or YUL-YYC-FRA or even YUL-LHR-VIE-FRA.... :confused:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.9.1/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:
YUL  Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau QC CA [CYUL]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
MON  26 Nov 2007

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- --------------------------------------------
AC        874    YUL  18:40    FRA  08:00 +1  333  0    J9 C5 Z2 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I1
AC        111    YUL  08:10    YVR  10:45    767  0    J9 C1 Z1 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L0 A0 K9 N9 I1
 -> AC/LH 9100  YVR  15:15    FRA  10:20 +1  343  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N0
AC        165    YUL  08:40    YYC  11:25    E90  0    J9 C3 Z1 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A3 K9 N9 I1
 -> AC    844    YYC  17:45    FRA  11:15 +1  333  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I4
AC        405    YUL  09:00    YYZ  10:20    767  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:25 +1  343  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        405    YUL  09:00    YYZ  10:20    767  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C5 Z2 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I0
AC        407    YUL  10:00    YYZ  11:20    767  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:25 +1  343  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        407    YUL  10:00    YYZ  11:20    767  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C5 Z2 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I0
AC        409    YUL  11:00    YYZ  12:20    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C5 Z2 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I0
AC        409    YUL  11:00    YYZ  12:20    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:25 +1  343  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        411    YUL  12:00    YYZ  13:20    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C5 Z2 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I0
AC        411    YUL  12:00    YYZ  13:20    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:25 +1  343  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        413    YUL  13:00    YYZ  14:20    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:25 +1  343  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        413    YUL  13:00    YYZ  14:20    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C5 Z2 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I0
AC        187    YUL  14:00    YYC  16:42    E90  0    J7 C7 Z0 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L4 A0 K9 N9 I0
 -> AC    844    YYC  17:45    FRA  11:15 +1  333  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I4
AC        415    YUL  14:00    YYZ  15:20    333  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:25 +1  343  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        415    YUL  14:00    YYZ  15:20    333  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C5 Z2 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I0
AC        417    YUL  15:00    YYZ  16:20    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC/LH 9104  YYZ  17:30    FRA  07:25 +1  343  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        417    YUL  15:00    YYZ  16:20    320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I9
 -> AC    872    YYZ  17:35    FRA  07:00 +1  77W  0    J9 C5 Z2 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I0
AC/LX    6820  YUL  16:50    ZRH  06:15 +1  330  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9
 -> AC/LH 9029  ZRH  10:05 +1  FRA  11:10 +1  320  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 K9 N9
AC        864    YUL  19:45    LHR  07:30 +1  333  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 A9 K9 N9 I8
 -> AC/OS 9602  LHR  09:20 +1  VIE  12:45 +1  321  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 H9 V9 Q9 K9 N9
 -> AC/OS 9611  VIE  13:15 +1  FRA  14:50 +1  F70  0    J9 C9 Z9 Y9 M9 U9 H9 V9 Q9 K9 N9

stevenshev Aug 21, 2007 7:50 am
Is there any way to limit availability searches to just the day you searched for. E.g. I'm looking for a flight tomorrow and it's pulling up flights that operate 4 only or 567 only. Speaking of which, I'm assuming Monday is 1, is that right?

KVS Aug 21, 2007 11:09 am
Originally Posted by okazon69 (Post 8267659)
But I am ... YUL-YVR-FRA or YUL-YYC-FRA or even YUL-LHR-VIE-FRA.... :confused:
Have you selected [Sort By: Airline]? If so, try choosing another option -- [# Of Connex] normally works the best.

KVS Aug 21, 2007 11:21 am
Originally Posted by Cyba (Post 8267603)
I have difficulties pulling up some BA fares. For examples I can't seem to pull up I-class and D-class fares between London and Europe and can only pull up full J fares from NYC to LON. I'm trying both sabre methods. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Other than not reading the KVS Tool FAQ under "Q: Why are the cheaper Business/First-class missing from the fare listings, when using one the [Fares] methods?" ;)


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