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Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 24295736)
I imagine everyone would be even more interested to hear KVS's authoritative voice on the future of his product.
Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 24295736)
It has now been months since "Availability" became "Currently Unavailable"
Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 24295736)
yet subscriptions are still being offered
Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 24295736)
and the app is still called the "Availability Tool".
Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 24295736)
What happens next, KVS?
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Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 24297852)
More accurately, it's called KVS Tool, although both names have been used interchangeably for many years now. Also, the term "Availability" encompasses all types of Availability (including Award & Upgrade Availability).
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Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 24297852)
More accurately, it's called KVS Tool, although both names have been used interchangeably for many years now. Also, the term "Availability" encompasses all types of Availability (including Award & Upgrade Availability).
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Originally Posted by vbroucek
(Post 24294840)
Finally as a challenge, can someone who still has KVS subscription find me some reasonably priced REVENUE availability between HBA and FUN, return? I think it could be FUN to try to check that post box KVS has its domain registered to:D
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Originally Posted by Lurker1999
(Post 24294660)
Can KVS currently search accurately for Star Alliance upgrade space (i.e. I class)?
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I've read through a little bit, but I just wanted to confirm that Fare Availability (e.g. F0 J0 .... Y0) no longer exists right?
I hadn't realized this change had occurred. |
Originally Posted by shuom
(Post 24313089)
I've read through a little bit, but I just wanted to confirm that Fare Availability (e.g. F0 J0 .... Y0) no longer exists right?
I hadn't realized this change had occurred. |
Issue with AC-Star Alliance method
When searching a date at the edge of the booking window (e.g. + 252 days) I sometimes (but not always) get an error stating I cannot search dates beyond date xxxx (where xxx is +255 days) when I am not searching beyond that date.
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Originally Posted by pschafer
(Post 24314357)
When searching a date at the edge of the booking window (e.g. + 252 days) I sometimes (but not always) get an error stating I cannot search dates beyond date xxxx (where xxx is +255 days) when I am not searching beyond that date.
We will be introducing a POS option for that Method in the next update, which should provide a work-around for this issue. |
SQ website/KVS showing different data
Hi,
Just wondering if you can help me with something: The KVS tool is showng CM+, but I can't book this u/g via the SQ website. Is it worth calling and asking about it? I could change my flights to something more amenable to u/g otherwise... TIA PG |
Originally Posted by Placebogirl
(Post 24328936)
Hi,
Just wondering if you can help me with something: The KVS tool is showng CM+, but I can't book this u/g via the SQ website. Is it worth calling and asking about it? I could change my flights to something more amenable to u/g otherwise... TIA PG |
Originally Posted by Placebogirl
(Post 24328936)
Just wondering if you can help me with something: The KVS tool is showng CM+, but I can't book this u/g via the SQ website. Is it worth calling and asking about it? I could change my flights to something more amenable to u/g otherwise...
For Business Upgrade availability, you need to look for CS Class. Please consult the SQ section of the KVS Tool User Guide for details: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#SQ |
No HA availability, but available on AA.com??
I understand some of the issues re. screen scraping but as someone pointed out time is money and kvstool does a reasonable job of simplifying (or rather organizing) cumbersome multiple searches. I used it for a bunch of award searches recently and I think I could replicated the functionality using the underlying data sources that KVS itself uses; however the convenience and (once you get used to it) the (artificial) similarity of the views across multiple sources is useful.
So after a 2 month trial, I signed up for an annual subscription. A sucker perhaps but whatever. Anyways...a question. KVStool claims award availability for Hawaiian is only available in the mobile companion. Per the guide, the econcomy class booking code is T. HA Hawaiian Airlines T Economy Award# P First Additional/HM "Flex" Award P First Upgrade [Mobile Companion] # Partner redemptions only HA 45 SJO 07:50 OGG 11:15 763/0 03:25 Info Seat Map F7 J5 P3 C0 A0 Y7 W7 X7 Q7 V7 B2 S0 N0 M0 I0 H0 G0 K0 L0 Z0 O0 AA.com shows at least one seat is available in Economy. (This is for Feb 25, 2015) American Airlines Alaska Airlines Hawaiian Airlines All Area Airports San Jose SJC - San Jose International OAK - Oakland Metropolitan Oak Intl SFO - San Francisco International Kahului OGG - Kahului Airport Kahului Maui Tue Feb 24 Wed Feb 25 Thu Feb 26 Additional eligible airports for award travel may be included. 17.5K HA 45 7:50 AM SJC 11:15 AM OGG Hawaiian Airlines Seat information not available Meal: Breakfast Aircraft: 763 Booking Code: T Total travel time: 5hr 25min Cabin: Economy Flight Details |
Originally Posted by rj123456
(Post 24336407)
I understand some of the issues re. screen scraping but as someone pointed out time is money and kvstool does a reasonable job of simplifying (or rather organizing) cumbersome multiple searches. I used it for a bunch of award searches recently and I think I could replicated the functionality using the underlying data sources that KVS itself uses; however the convenience and (once you get used to it) the (artificial) similarity of the views across multiple sources is useful.
I'd have no problem paying for data if I knew it were legitimately obtained. In this case it is most clearly not and the funds paid are going into the pocket of someone who has taken it against the wishes of its owners/sources. |
Originally Posted by Xyzzy
(Post 24336523)
The data sources KVS uses generally pr:eek:hibit the use KVS makes of them....That's theft
How is it prohibited? By the Terms of Service? Which part of ToS exactly does it violate? Most critics of KVS have said that ToS often forbid scraping, so I assume that is what you are saying. Scrapers generally read the information and store it which KVS does not do. KVS immediately presents the information in a different format without storing anything. Therefore KVS tool should be considered as an alternative browser. If you want to argue that the ToS can forbid alternative presentation of a site, I am not sure that the law supports that*. And such a stance would mean that anybody who (for example) turns off of displaying images, changes the font size, uses a translation or similar widget, or has a disability that requires a special browser cannot access any such sites. And that they (or the vendors of those browsers) are also thieves. (*Many users are not located in the US. Are you an expert in how those ToS apply in each country in the world? Also note that many of the websites are also not US websites.) |
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