Not easy to find out without hacking KVS server...

So this is why the mobile companion started showing timetables for me. I had never used the timetable option before ... :(

How many people actually use the timetable option? Wouldn't it make sense for the most-frequently-used option to be the default?

is CX access down?

edit: realised that cathaypacific.com is down for maintenance

There is a basic tenet in psychology that states: The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. All the previous "methods" for availability and fares were screen scraped from websites were what was being scraped was shut down. The mobile tool's old availability source was no different. It came from http://1a.com.tw/tk/ which as you can see is now disabled.

Since the new availability source has a weird POS that no one can seem to figure out, and KVS is unwilling to tell us where it is, it's logical that this new source is being screen scraped as well. After all, if someone found out where this new availability data was being screen scraped from, it might be shut down too. This is consistent with the new fare search that is being scraped from a website that can't even show North American fares because he had no better website option to scrape from.

The access limits are equally as likely to prevent the owner of the website from finding out they are being scraped.

Either way, as others have shown the new availability data is inconsistent with both a US and UK POS, the bigger question is if the data is actually accurate vs if it is paid for.

Yeah that too. :p

Indeed, CX is currently experiencing a server hardware issue, which is affecting the [Awards/CX-OneWorld] Engine.

CX Award Availability continues to be accessible via the [Awards/JL-OneWorld], [Awards/BA-OneWorld], and [Awards/OneWorld] Methods in the KVS Tool.

Not if they just used a specialized web browser ;)

Could this question please be answered? :confused:
Flight Availability information is pretty useless at the moment without knowing what POS is being displayed, it does not match at all most carriers I have tried.

Mobile Companion has a dynamic POS.

If there is a specific flight you are concerned about, please provide the flight details and time of your search via the Contact Form, so that we can look into it.

Not showing users the POS that has been 'dynamically' selected for their searches, let alone allowing them to select it themselves, makes results truly useless.

What does this mean? I don't understand.

[Deleted by moderator] but I think it's disconcerting for folks that pay for a service that is not accurate.

As to "dynamic," one could speculate that it either means: a) the POS is dynamically assigned at time of query, or; b) the POS is dynamic as data sources dry up.

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