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With my moderator's hat off.
Curiosity got the better of me and I spent a considerable amount of time searching for the sources of data used by the KVS Tool. I ran across a book that shed some light. KVS Tools is discussed on pages 10 and 11 (Google Books). Please keep in mind that this book was published in 2011 and that the sources and methods used by KVS may have changed since then. |
Interesting answer by KVS:
"Why can't you just make that "mobile" page available in the regular KVS application? You manage to scrape all sorts of airline websites just fine... why can't you just "scrape" your own mobile site as well?" It is something that has been considered, but is not currently feasible for operational reasons. |
Even if he could scrape his own site, it doesn't matter because the underlying data seems to be inaccurate.
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After long lurking finally I have a question: why do you guys keep riding on the same topic over and over again, why don't you just simply stop subscribing?
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some (maybe even many) of the frequent posters who are "riding on the same topic over and over again" are in fact not subscribers. They just enjoy policing what others are doing and/or have an axe to grind. For them your question is moot.
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The thread was opened to allow FTers to discuss anything related to the KVS 'availability' app. It isn't reserved for current users.
I don't need to be a current customer of a particular product to have an interest in services that help users retrieve information about flights, fares and availability in a convenient and accessible fashion. The KVS app used to do this and following this thread is a way of following developments, including learning if/when functionality is restored or the product goes legit. |
Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 24290352)
The thread was opened to allow FTers to discuss anything related to the KVS 'availability' app. It isn't reserved for current users.
I don't need to be a current customer of a particular product to have an interest in services that help users retrieve information about flights, fares and availability in a convenient and accessible fashion. The KVS app used to do this and following this thread is a way of following developments, including learning if/when functionality is restored or the product goes legit. I never said that people who are not users should somehow be forbidden from posting. We just need a reasonable conversation. [Deleted by moderator] |
Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 24285825)
What does this mean? I don't understand.
As noted previously, users, who believe that there may be practical issues that affects their searches, can provide the flight details via the Contact Form, so that we can look into that. |
Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 24291276)
It means that the MC POS is not fixed/static and can vary.
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Can KVS currently search accurately for Star Alliance upgrade space (i.e. I class)?
I've been using the ANA search tool to look for space on Eva flights but it's quite painful to do so manually every day for the routes I'm interested in. |
Originally Posted by Lurker1999
(Post 24294660)
Can KVS currently search accurately for Star Alliance upgrade space (i.e. I class)?
I've been using the ANA search tool to look for space on Eva flights but it's quite painful to do so manually every day for the routes I'm interested in. |
Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
(Post 24289753)
After long lurking finally I have a question: why do you guys keep riding on the same topic over and over again, why don't you just simply stop subscribing?
Originally Posted by lewinr
(Post 24290280)
some (maybe even many) of the frequent posters who are "riding on the same topic over and over again" are in fact not subscribers. They just enjoy policing what others are doing and/or have an axe to grind. For them your question is moot.
Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 24290352)
The thread was opened to allow FTers to discuss anything related to the KVS 'availability' app. It isn't reserved for current users.
I don't need to be a current customer of a particular product to have an interest in services that help users retrieve information about flights, fares and availability in a convenient and accessible fashion. The KVS app used to do this and following this thread is a way of following developments, including learning if/when functionality is restored or the product goes legit.
Originally Posted by lewinr
(Post 24290987)
I agree, and you state your position reasonably.
I never said that people who are not users should somehow be forbidden from posting. We just need a reasonable conversation. [Deleted by moderator]
On the other hand, as a long term user I have to say following:
Finally as a challenge, can someone who still has KVS subscription find me some reasonably priced REVENUE availability between HBA and FUN, return? I think it could be FUN to try to check that post box KVS has its domain registered to:D |
Originally Posted by vbroucek
(Post 24294840)
OK - I am one of those who can be seen critical of KVS. So put it straight:
On the other hand, as a long term user I have to say following:
In some cases (those where KVS scrapes a site with no specific TOS against it, that may be the case with GOL) the sources of the data present a moral issue, in others (where a specific TOS prohibits what KVS does, or directing users to create a fraudulent account at a university), it's not a moral issue, it's a legal issue (perhaps you can make it a moral issue if the question you're asking yourself is, "is it ok to violate TOS or break the law if it's highly unlikely that I will get caught/have any liability for doing so?"). Regardless, the truly unfortunate thing is that the tool (when it functioned with everything working and accurate) was very useful. Unfortunately, the business model has taken a negative trajectory in response to TOSes being added to sources of data that prohibit what KVS does, etc. I don't think there is a way to get this back on track and I agree with this poster, it's time to wind it down. |
Originally Posted by vbroucek
(Post 24294840)
IMHO, it is now time to wind that company down
Originally Posted by ONTRandy
(Post 24295698)
I don't think there is a way to get this back on track and I agree [...] it's time to wind it down.
What happens next, KVS? |
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