DONE4 Fare advice
 

hello all, just recently discovered this ticket and playing with some pricing options.

My ideal trip would be something like this. 4 continents, Business class. I live in France already so CDG is no problem, but am flexible on departure point.

CDG-DXB-DOH-MLE-CMB-SIN-KUL-PER-SYD-HNL-LAX-JFK-CDG

I originally plugged this into the OW RTW tool ex-LHR (as am BA EC) and it came out at £6200 + £1394 taxes each (£7594)

Aare there any latest guides on based fares ex EU or other cheaper departure points? thanks in advance..

Fares are flat within the EEA, except higher in the UK.

Cheapest starting point near you (by probably 50%) is CAI.

Interestingly even with starting in Cairo, it's cheaper for me to do an ex-EU to SYD, breaking in Asia on the outbound and in the GCC on the inbound, and then an ex-DUB to the USA, than it is to book a DONE4.

This is all due to the current sale fares, obviously. I'm sure that won't always be the case.

Sale?

Yes I found this, doing a DONE4/DONE5 was going to be more expensive than three separate Europe-originating trips.

AA is 'aving a laugh
 

Just called in to AA to change a DONE4 out of Joburg that was parked in Madrid.

Original: MAD-xDUS-LAX on IB and AB
New one: MAD-AY-xHEL-AY-xLHR-AA-LAX

RTW desk and ticketing asked for AA(YR) of $482 and another XX(YQ) of 224 (supposedly AY)!

I'm in the middle of nowhere right now and didn't have time to go back to redo all the flights, but will do so when I'm at my computer and can get the right flights and routing. So is AA really gone full BA?

Two out of three alliances now auto price in Sabre. Skyteam has been about to do so for a couple months. *A now works, leaving only OW.

Especially ironic since SABRE was a system specifically written for AA by IBM and used by AA for years.

Yes. Sabre recognizes the alliances codes now (*A, *O, and *S) so I figure it is only and matter time for OW to come on board. The original press release for RTW autopricing even mentioned all three alliances.

It should be noted that the rules of a xONEx seem to be a little more complicated than the pure mileage based RTWs from *A and SkyTeam

In that case, they should be able to add the other oneworld products in quickly.

tl;dr version: I suspect AA are treating LHR as a stopover for pricing purposes.


Searching on ITA for a biz one-way....

MAD-xDUS-LAX on IB then AB is the following on top of the base fare:
German Passenger Service Charge (RA) $20.30
AB YQ surcharge (YQ) $191.70
+ a bunch of spain and US taxes

MAD-xHEL-xLHR-LAX on AY then AA is the following on top of the base fare:
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB) $48.70
AA YR surcharge (YR) $206.40
Finland WL (WL) $5.70
Finland Air Transport Supervision Charge (XU) $1.40
+ the same bunch of spain and US taxes.

So adding in the $100 change fee and you'd expect about $150 to change.


Wondering how how much it would be with a stop on LHR...

MAD-xHEL-LHR on AY followed by LHR-LAX on AA with a stopover in LHR would be:
Finland WL (WL) $5.70
Finland Air Transport Supervision Charge (XU) $1.40
AY YR surcharge (YR) $54.10
+
United Kingdom Air Passengers Duty (GB) $218.10
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB) $64.60
AA YR surcharge (YR) $252.60
+ the same bunch of spain and US taxes.

Which would be more like $400 + $100 which is close to your $482.

I have just issued a OWE AONE3 from Tokyo and a meeting has just come up pushing my schedule one day back. I was meant to depart to HKG on Jun 17 and now I have to depart on Jun 18th on the same flight. Am I allowed to change the first segment before the ticket has even begun?

Yes, see the "PENALTIES" category in the fare rules

Much appreciated! Thanks a lot for your help.

DONE QY surcharges
 

Hi I have some similar questions as above as I issued a DONE a few months ago and now need to change some dates and cancel some sectors but they're saying it's going to be a fare difference.


It would be necessary to be re-calculated whole FARE / TAX,YQ,
Please kindly find the following details as we have checked the tax differences as of today.
- TAX : it is JPY 31,310 will be collected.
- The re-route charge of USD 125.00.
Grand Total = JPY46,810 (JPY 31,310 + JPY 15,500 (USD125.00)) as of today.

I had told them I wanted to cancel 3 sectors and change the dates of two of the last flights here:

1 CX 505D 19JUL NRTHKG HK1 1820 2210 *
2 CX 255Z 06AUG HKGLHR HL1 0035 0620
3 CX 255D 06AUG HKGLHR HK1 0035 0620 *
4 BA 676D 06AUG LHRIST HK1 1030 1620 *
5 BA 677D 09AUG ISTLHR HK1 1735 1935 *
6 BA1484D 12AUG LHRGLA HK1 1315 1435 *
7 BA1489D 16AUG GLALHR HK1 1530 1650 *
8 BA 181D 16AUG LHRJFK HK1 1900 2200 *
9 AA1443A 20AUG JFKBOS HK1 1225 1335 * (I would like to Cancel this sector)
10 AA 166A 24AUG BOSLAX HK1 0815 1140 *
11 AA 170A 28AUG LAXLAS HK1 1350 1511 *(I would like to Cancel this sector)
12 AA 23A 31AUG LASLAX HK1 2015 2143 *(I would like to Cancel this sector)
13 CX 881Z 01SEP LAXHKG HK1 0100 0645 (CHANGE FLIGHT TO AUG 26, CX 881)
14 CX 542D 20NOV HKGHND HK1 1620 2105 * (CHANGE FLIGHT TO SEP 25th CX542)
My question is what can I change without incurring the fuel surcharge? It's cheaper to reissue the whole ticket vs. making all these changes at this point. Any advice?

Chung