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Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23751175)
xONEx price in the currency of the country of origin, in this case AUD. You quote USD, are you sure you have not made a mistake with you currency?
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Originally Posted by jacalata
(Post 23751326)
Yes, sorry - I was trying ex-MEL and ex-ICN, so converted all the prices into USD for my comparisons. The price was presented in AUD - I think it went from about AUD$5100 to AUD$6600.
LONE4 3,899 LONE5 4,499 LONE6 5,199 Tokyo is a cheaper departure point than Korea. |
Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23752234)
LONEx fares are seasonal. For 14/Jan/15 departure they are in AUD ex-Australia
LONE4 3,899 LONE5 4,499 LONE6 5,199 Tokyo is a cheaper departure point than Korea. |
Originally Posted by jacalata
(Post 23750676)
I just priced out an LONEX starting in MEL for USD$4635, 11 segments. I did this at rtw.oneworld.com. Then I happened to go to qantas.com and click through their rtw link to the same page, which re-opened my existing itinerary and priced it $1500 higher on the base fare: at this point, the price in my already opened tab updated also $1500 higher! I opened a different browser and re-priced it going directly to the tool, and got the original fare (I went through to the cc details page). What on earth is going on there, does this just get added on in some kind of lousy qantas 'fees'?
When you priced it out on rtw.oneworld.com which airline did you have for your first flight? That airline would be your ticketing carrier and so it gets to choose which surcharges (for the other airlines in the itinerary) it collects off you and which it doesn't. If Qantas is the first carrier, then it gets to choose - and it likes to collect lots of surcharges. I once did a mini-investigation of this - see this post http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/13347190-post20.html (warning: figures will no longer be valid) When you priced it through Qantas.com did you change the first carrier to be Qantas (or was it already Qantas)? It might be that setting the ticket up through qantas.com results in QF doing the ticketing even if it is not the first carrier. Will be interesting to investigate this... |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23753073)
Will be interesting to investigate this... First investigation
Edited to add: Second investigation
Mmmm |
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 23752915)
They used to be seasonal (and the fare basis code was different for high season). They haven't been for some times.
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Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23754471)
Oh - When did they change? I remember in 2000 I bought a LONEx which was seasonal. But I guess 2000 was a long time ago ;)
The next copy I have is March-2012, and all seasonal fares had gone by then Narrows it down a bit;) |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23753436)
I will add the second investigation shortly (it will navigate through the qantas.com web site to the tool in order to see if there is any difference)
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My DONE6 ex-JNB has now been ticketed. Thanks for help everybody :)
Now I better do some OT to actually be able to afford 7 months off. |
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 23754536)
The times that I've clicked through to the booking tool via the QF website, it still goes to the oneworld site tool, it just has QF branding instead. I haven't noticed any other difference.
But see my Second Investigation in post#875 above - Qantas DOES increase the price |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23753436)
Second investigation
Mmmm |
Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23755044)
What is a multiple carrier surcharge/fee? Is it something Qantas have made up (as a charge for them to have to deal with multiple carriers?) or is it various charged applied by multiple carriers and shown as a single value?
In my first investigation above: - creating the itinerary in the online tool with CX as the first carrier - then amongst all the various taxes and charges are these two lines - Multiple Carrier Surcharges/Fees AUD123.50 In my second investigation:- Carrier Surcharges/Fees AUD546.50 - creating the identical itinerary, but getting to the online via the Qantas web site - the same two lines appear, and in addition this line - Multiple Carrier Surcharges/Fees AUD297.70 Go figure |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23755105)
It's how they aggregate together all the various YQ and YR (aka fuel fine) surcharges
In my first investigation above: - creating the itinerary in the online tool with CX as the first carrier - then amongst all the various taxes and charges are these two lines - Multiple Carrier Surcharges/Fees AUD123.50 In my second investigation:- Carrier Surcharges/Fees AUD546.50 - creating the identical itinerary, but getting to the online via the Qantas web site - the same two lines appear, and in addition this line - Multiple Carrier Surcharges/Fees AUD297.70 Go figureSo I did some more investigation yesterday. I was getting the correct base fare in two browsers, whether I visited qantas.com or straight to oneworld.com, but the other browser continued to show a base fare of AUD$5k (for the exact same itinerary, down to dates) even after closing and reopening. I finally cleared the browser cookies and cache and it started showing the normal fare - I have no idea what happened there, but I sure am glad I wasn't just going straight through to book it through qantas. I also priced it ex-Tokyo, thanks for the tip. It came to about $100 cheaper but I think the extra trip to Australia is worth that to me :) One more unrelated question - if I just leave the FF# blank during booking, can I add my Alaska airlines number separately for each flight through the airlines, or just claim the flights with Alaska after taking them? (They are all Alaska partners, except Qatar Airways. I'll put the Qatar miles on American but would like to get status on Alaska as my main airline). |
Originally Posted by jacalata
(Post 23764379)
One more unrelated question - if I just leave the FF# blank during booking, can I add my Alaska airlines number separately for each flight through the airlines, or just claim the flights with Alaska after taking them? (They are all Alaska partners, except Qatar Airways. I'll put the Qatar miles on American but would like to get status on Alaska as my main airline).
QR and BA both use Amadeus, so they would see the same frequent flier number; AA uses Sabre so they would not see it (unless BA deliberately cross propagated to the foreign booking system, which actually they would do normally, but with so many partners on a non-standard itinerary they might not). The difficulty is you want your QR flights credited separately. You could go around fixing it at every airport when you check in, that should work, "Is my Alaska/American frequent flier number in the booking please?", but the "safest" way would be to retroclaim every flight coupon. |
Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 23764608)
The difficulty is you want your QR flights credited separately. You could go around fixing it at every airport when you check in, that should work, "Is my Alaska/American frequent flier number in the booking please?", but the "safest" way would be to retroclaim every flight coupon.
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