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pandaperth Oct 28, 2014 1:59 am


Originally Posted by 747-444 (Post 23747833)
Greetings,

I know that OneWorld have previously viewed a JNB-LHR-DXB/HKG (transit) - SYD-JNB as a DONEWC4 ticket.

Have they updated their terms and conditions to reflect it as a DONEWC3?
I am making my travel plans for the next few weeks and the price will shape the flights I need to take, I don't feel like paying for a 4th continent if I am solely in transit.


Regards,

Sadly it is still considered a 4-continent itinerary
(particularly annoying now that one can fly non-stop DXB-SYD/MEL or DOH-PER/MEL without even 'touching' Asia.
Here's the (unchanged) wording in the current fare rules
PHP Code:

    B.TRAVEL MUST BE A CIRCLE TRIP VIA FOLLOWING
            ROUTING -
          1. AFRICA-SWP-ASIA-AFRICA VV
          2. AFRICA-ASIA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA VV
          3. AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-ASIA-SWP-AFRICA VV
          4. SWP-ASIA-AFRICA-SWP VV
          5. SWP-AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-ASIA-SWP VV
          6. ASIA-SWP-AFRICA-ASIA VV
          7. ASIA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA-ASIA VV
          8. ASIA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA-SWP-ASIA VV
          9. EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-ASIA-AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE
             EAST VV
          10.EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA-SWP-ASIA-EUROPE/
             MIDDLE EAST VV
          NOTE - FOR ITEMS 3/5/10 ON A DIRECT SINGLE PLANE
          SERVICE OR WHEN TRANSFER WITHOUT STOPOVER IS
          UTILISED BETWEEN SWP-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST THIS WILL
          BE CONSIDERED A FOUR CONTINENT JOURNEY. 


creampuff Oct 28, 2014 4:58 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23746001)
AB still publishes xONEWC fares out of KRT, but how to book them is the challenge
And, at least according to EF, no other airlines publish RTW or multi-continent fares ex-KRT

Can you not just turn up at an Air Berlin office with a self-generated xONEWCx itinerary which meets the fare rules and ask them to issue the ticket? Qatar appears to fly KRT-DOH so it is possible to leave KRT on a OW airline.

Edit: just saw later reply indicating AB don't know what a xONEWCx is.

pandaperth Oct 28, 2014 5:43 am


Originally Posted by creampuff (Post 23748345)
Can you not just turn up at an Air Berlin office with a self-generated xONEWCx itinerary which meets the fare rules and ask them to issue the ticket? Qatar appears to fly KRT-DOH so it is possible to leave KRT on a OW airline.

Since AB does not fly to KRT, it has no office there (or GSA as far as I can tell)
and if you were to turn up at one of its office elsewhere, you would then be subject to the rule:

WHEN TRAVEL ORIGINATES IN A COUNTRY FOR WHICH A SPECIFIC LOCAL CURRENCY FARE IS PUBLISHED AND THE TICKET IS SOLD IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THE FARE WILL BE THAT PUBLISHED FOR THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY OF SALE AT THE BANK SELLING RATE. THE RESULTANT FARE MUST NOT BE LOWER THAN THAT FROM THE COUNTRY OF SALE.
So purchase in say Germany then you pay the German price (because it is higher than the Sudan price)

Edit: just saw later reply indicating AB don't know what a xONEWCx is.
I feel pretty sure that if you asked them to ticket you an ex-Germany AONEWC4 (base price EUR12977) then they'd pretty darn quickly learn about such tickets;)

creampuff Oct 28, 2014 5:49 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23748483)
Since AB does not fly to KRT, it has no office there (or GSA as far as I can tell)
and if you were to turn up at one of its office elsewhere, you would then be subject to the rule:

So purchase in say Germany then you pay the German price (because it is higher than the Sudan price)

Hmmm, so presumably it could still work if you found a travel agent in Khartoum who could issue an Air Berlin xONEWCx ticket. And wiring a few thousand dollars to a random travel agent in Sudan, there's not much with could go wrong with that ;)

pandaperth Oct 28, 2014 5:56 am


Originally Posted by creampuff (Post 23742646)
Edit 2: It seems to be OK to go to Khartoum with the unsafe areas located to the west and south.

When we spent our few days in KRT, in April 2013, just about everybody else in the hotel were aid workers - either heading in to Darfur, which is in the West, or heading out.

We got friendly with a young Canadian guy who worked for the World Food Program (IIRC). His 3-month tour of duty in Darfur was over, he was in town for a couple of days of de-briefing, and then he said he was off to Amsterdam and he was going to party, party, party:D

South Sudan is now a separate country; and yes it is having its troubles at the moment.

Just by the way, if you do go there - we found everybody very welcoming and helpful (typical arab/muslim hospitality to strangers); we walked the streets near our hotel in the evenings and felt completely safe.
Even the traffic wasn't too bad; way better than Cairo!

Calchas Oct 28, 2014 6:02 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23748537)
When we spent our few days in KRT, in April 2013, just about everybody else in the hotel were aid workers - either heading in to Darfur, which is in the West, or heading out.

We got friendly with a young Canadian guy who worked for the World Food Program (IIRC). His 3-month tour of duty in Darfur was over, he was in town for a couple of days of de-briefing, and then he said he was off to Amsterdam and he was going to party, party, party:D

South Sudan is now a separate country; and yes it is having its troubles at the moment.

Just by the way, if you do go there - we found everybody very welcoming and helpful (typical arab/muslim hospitality to strangers); we walked the streets near our hotel in the evenings and felt completely safe.
Even the traffic wasn't too bad; way better than Cairo!

Did you happen to meet any trustworthy and highly competent travel agents? ;)

pandaperth Oct 28, 2014 6:03 am


Originally Posted by creampuff (Post 23748501)
Hmmm, so presumably it could still work if you found a travel agent in Khartoum who could issue an Air Berlin xONEWCx ticket. And wiring a few thousand dollars to a random travel agent in Sudan, there's not much with could go wrong with that ;)

LOL

Come to think of it, the place we stayed at was called The German Guest House, and had a travel desk* there...
So you never know - google them and send them an email

* we considered hiring a car and driver for a day trip out to the Sudanese Pyramids, North of the city. But in the end Mrs pandaperth wasn't comfortable with that

pandaperth Oct 28, 2014 6:06 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 23748557)
Did you happen to meet any trustworthy and highly competent travel agents? ;)

See the post above

The people who ran things in the hotel were, IMO and experience, completely trustworthy

We also had dealings with the RJ office "downtown" and they were highly competent and friendly. But I'm sure they wouldn't be selling you a ticket on AB stock:)

Calchas Oct 28, 2014 6:12 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23748573)
See the post above

The people who ran things in the hotel were, IMO and experience, completely trustworthy

We also had dealings with the RJ office "downtown" and they were highly competent and friendly. But I'm sure they wouldn't be selling you a ticket on AB stock:)

It might actually be worth looking into. ;)

747-444 Oct 28, 2014 8:38 am

Current cheapest premium tickets, A/DONE - A/DONEWC?
 
Hi All,

I am looking for the cheapest countries to start a DONE/AONE/AONEWC/DONEWC.

What are currently the cheapest countries to depart from?

Regards,

Calchas Oct 28, 2014 9:27 am


Originally Posted by 747-444 (Post 23749467)
Hi All,

I am looking for the cheapest countries to start a DONE/AONE/AONEWC/DONEWC.

What are currently the cheapest countries to depart from?

Regards,

This is discussed above. Basically, CAI, JNB, and TYO are good places to begin. You can also do KRT (see discussion over last two pages) but it might be a logistic challenge to get it arranged.

jacalata Oct 28, 2014 11:28 am

I just priced out an LONEX starting in MEL for USD$4635, 11 segments. I did this at rtw.oneworld.com. Then I happened to go to qantas.com and click through their rtw link to the same page, which re-opened my existing itinerary and priced it $1500 higher on the base fare: at this point, the price in my already opened tab updated also $1500 higher! I opened a different browser and re-priced it going directly to the tool, and got the original fare (I went through to the cc details page). What on earth is going on there, does this just get added on in some kind of lousy qantas 'fees'?

Unrelated question: I can save about $250 in tax/fees if I fly TAM from Sao Paulo/Rio to London instead of BA. Is there a noticeably different experience in Y? The TAM forums sound pretty negative.

Third question - I tried posting this two days ago and got a message saying "moderators need to approve your post" then it never showed up. How's that work?

Gardyloo Oct 28, 2014 11:55 am


Originally Posted by jacalata (Post 23750676)
Third question - I tried posting this two days ago and got a message saying "moderators need to approve your post" then it never showed up. How's that work?

For some reason your post went into the moderator queue (a mysterious thing) requiring moderator approval before it's visible. I must have missed it, but have allowed it now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

jacalata Oct 28, 2014 11:57 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 23750896)
I must have missed it, but have allowed it now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

No problem - I was just worried it had broken some rule or other.

creampuff Oct 28, 2014 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by jacalata (Post 23750676)
I just priced out an LONEX starting in MEL for USD$4635, 11 segments. I did this at rtw.oneworld.com. Then I happened to go to qantas.com and click through their rtw link to the same page, which re-opened my existing itinerary and priced it $1500 higher on the base fare: at this point, the price in my already opened tab updated also $1500 higher! I opened a different browser and re-priced it going directly to the tool, and got the original fare
?

xONEx price in the currency of the country of origin, in this case AUD. You quote USD, are you sure you have not made a mistake with you currency?


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