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My only BA segment is CPT-JNB
but it does mean that BA would do the ticketing, rather than AA if I use its RTW desk, or QR if I contact them directly to ticket |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23694535)
My only BA segment is CPT-JNB
but it does mean that BA would do the ticketing, rather than AA if I use its RTW desk, or QR if I contact them directly to ticket I did substitute QR (JNB-DOH-MAD) with BA (JNB-LHR-MAD) and the total fuel fine difference was only about 416ZAR or ~$37, of course there are higher airport taxes as well, but it comes as a surprise to me. If I am not mistaken, because I am only doing a connection in LHR on the way to MAD, I should be able to use AA flight numbers is that correct? I wonder if I can do that to try and realize a YQ reduction. I hope the RTW can provide a better fuel fine break down and also will see whether the switch of first flights can massage those fines some more. |
My thread on the Lan Chile forum may not be noticed by the regulars on this forum, but any help with this Lan Chile problem would be much appreciated:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lan-l...s-infants.html |
Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23705194)
My thread on the Lan Chile forum may not be noticed by the regulars on this forum, but any help with this Lan Chile problem would be much appreciated:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lan-l...s-infants.html Could somebody with Expert Flyer or similar access please give me the base fare price of a DONE4, DONE5 and DONE6 ex-Johannesburg? cheers. |
Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23706151)
i may delete south america and lan chile from my itinerary and do something else.
Could somebody with expert flyer or similar access please give me the base fare price of a done4, done5 and done6 ex-johannesburg? Cheers. done5: Zar 67,880 done6: Zar 80,500 |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23708043)
done4: Zar 58,940
done5: Zar 67,880 done6: Zar 80,500 |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23708043)
done4: Zar 58,940
done5: Zar 67,880 done6: Zar 80,500
Originally Posted by TopGunner
(Post 23708420)
I have a recent pricing of a DONE4 ex-JNB at 59,010ZAR.
which is roughly 7 USD I'm thinking your itinerary includes HKG? which has a nuisance tax, but which for some reason the authorities there state must be added to the base fare, rather than be separately identified as a tax |
New Itin, any comments?
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23708043)
done4: Zar 58,940
done5: Zar 67,880 done6: Zar 80,500 The ban on infants on the lap in Lan Chile business class was a show-stopper for my old itinerary involving flying to South America and to/from Easter Island on Lan. I wasn't prepared to buy a seat for my son when all other airlines are OK with him on the lap and I wasn't prepared to downgrade my Lan Chile legs to economy when I'm paying for business class either. I've reworked the itinerary departing from JNB instead of Cairo as per the original plan and deleted all the Lan Chile flights except for SCL-GIG which I don't think I can avoid. JNB(QF) - SYD(QF) - MEL(QF) - SYD(JL) - NRT(UL) - CMB(UL) - KUL(MH) - RGN(KA) - HKG(CX) - LAX - JFK(AA) - CUN(AA) - MIA(AA) - SCL(LA) - GIG(BA) - LHR(BA) - EBB < 16 segments total The only thing is from JNB I must go to Melbourne before Sydney (family reasons and no direct JNB-MEL flight) therefore I'm "wasting" 2 x sectors in short hops from SYD-MEL-SYD. Can anybody see a way in this itinerary to do any one of the following, maybe by deleting the inefficient SYD-MEL-SYD legs and me just buying a separate ticket for those: - Get from Cape Town to/from JNB? - Add another destination in South or Central America (but not EZE or LIM; already been there on previous trips)? - Going to Port Moresby (POM)? |
Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23709769)
...and deleted all the Lan Chile flights except for SCL-GIG which I don't think I can avoid.
JJ flies SCL-GIG, does it also restrict lap children in J? Can anybody see a way in this itinerary to do any one of the following, maybe by deleting the inefficient SYD-MEL-SYD legs and me just buying a separate ticket for those: - Get from Cape Town to/from JNB? Well if you drop SYD-MEL-SYD then yes, just add CPT-JNB on BA's subsidiary Comair However, if you're actually looking to get from CPT to MEL (and JNB and SYD are merely the places you pass through on the way) then you have the options of CPT-DOH-MEL and CPT-JNB-xHKG-MEL Or - do Asia before Australia CPT-DOH-RGN-KUL-CMB-NRT-HKG-MEL - Add another destination in South or Central America (but not EZE or LIM; already been there on previous trips)? Drop SYD-MEL-SYD and MAO? (...GIG-MAO-GIG/GRU/xMIA-LHR-EBB) PTY? (...MIA-PTY-MIA/DFW-SCL...) - Going to Port Moresby (POM)? The only (oneworld) way to/from POM is CNS-POM-CNS CX flies into CNS from HKG QF from a number of places in Oz - including of course SYD and MEL |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23709977)
However, if you're actually looking to get from CPT to MEL (and JNB and SYD are merely the places you pass through on the way) then you have the options of CPT-DOH-MEL and CPT-JNB-xHKG-MEL
Or - do Asia before Australia CPT-DOH-RGN-KUL-CMB-NRT-HKG-MEL Is there a direct CPT-DOH flight? I have the OneWorld electronic timetable and CPT-DOH is showing a transit in JNB (ie CPT-JNB would be a segment). The thought of flying Cathay JNB-HKG-MEL had crossed my mind, just because it is a 25 hour flight so I would really think I'm getting good value out of a DONE5 ticket, rather than just flying Qantas JNB-SYD-MEL in 15 hours ;) Or maybe that is crazy ;) |
Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23710008)
Thanks again for your help (and also to gardyloo who has also helped out a lot). For this part of the trip JNB and SYD are transits, but I will be making a long stop in SYD after MEL. I want to do Australia before Asia so that I will have summer in Australia (I arrive in Aus in January; doing Asia first I'd arrive in Aus in March or April).
Is there a direct CPT-DOH flight? I have the OneWorld electronic timetable and CPT-DOH is showing a transit in JNB (ie CPT-JNB would be a segment). QR has a direct flight CPT-DOH three times a week (it's not non-stop, it stops in JNB, but for the Oneworld explorer it counts as a single segment) The thought of flying Cathay JNB-HKG-MEL had crossed my mind, just because it is a 25 hour flight so I would really think I'm getting good value out of a DONE5 ticket, rather than just flying Qantas JNB-SYD-MEL in 15 hours ;) Or maybe that is crazy ;) IMHO, with a lap child you're most certainly crazy to contemplate this:) Because you want to go back to Asia after Oz, then you're only allowed up to 24hrs in HKG; whereas if you went the CPT-DOH-MEL route, then you can stopover in DOH if you wanted to |
Originally Posted by TopGunner
(Post 23692792)
I just priced up this basic DONE4 out of JNB and wanted to get the collective wisdom on the charges, especially the carrier fines. Since they are lumped in, it is rather difficult to ascertain where they are coming from. I shudder to think what including BA might do to such an itinerary.
Base fare: 59,010ZAR Carrier fees: 11,790ZAR Taxes: 2,499ZAR Total: 73,298ZAR Itinerary: JNB-DOH QR DOH-MAD QR MAD-LHR-LAX AA(IB Codeshare)-AA135 LAX-JFK AA JFK-HKG AA (CX codeshare) HKG-NRT CX NRT-HKG CX HKG-JNB CX QR in general and AA TATL fuel fines are not pretty. However, I still think I am being overcharged, I have gone and tried to manually price the fuel fines in an unscientific manner, although the CX fines are correct because those are clearly published and they have been slightly reduced as of Oct 1. Route Airline YQ JNB-DOH QR $80.50 DOH-MAD QR $80.50 MAD-xLHR IB $40.88 xLHR-LAX AA $288 (RT is 576) LAX-JFK AA $0 JFK-HKG CX $103.70 HKG-NRT CX $23.50 NRT-HKG CX $23.50 HKG-JNB CX $103.70 Total $744 (8,109ZAR) [/QUOTE] |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 23710077)
QR has a direct flight CPT-DOH three times a week (it's not non-stop, it stops in JNB, but for the Oneworld explorer it counts as a single segment) For my RTW biz class trip. Seat availability is showing as zero in all classes and all fare brackets for the Qatar CPT-DOH flight. Any idea what is going on? I had a problem when I was playing with the One World RTW booking tool getting any Qatar flights to come up also. Edit - I also notice the poster above says QR fuel surcharges are high? It only makes economic sense for me to fly Qatar CPT-DOH-MEL if the fuel surcharges are about the same or less than Qantas JNB-SYD. |
Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23713189)
For my RTW biz class trip. Seat availability is showing as zero in all classes and all fare brackets for the Qatar CPT-DOH flight. Any idea what is going on?
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Originally Posted by creampuff
(Post 23713189)
I've started a trial of Expert Flyer.... can't figure out how to look up fuel surcharges though.
Don't think you can in EF For my RTW biz class trip. Seat availability is showing as zero in all classes and all fare brackets for the Qatar CPT-DOH flight. Any idea what is going on? I checked Jan1 to Jan7 - no direct flight flight on 2nd or 4th - flight on 1st shows D2 - flights on 3rd and 5th show D0 - on 6th D5 and 7th D4 So some flights are pretty full, others less so I had a problem when I was playing with the One World RTW booking tool getting any Qatar flights to come up also. I've not had this problem You are aware that you cannot start an on-line itinerary with a QR flight? |
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