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Calchas Nov 4, 2014 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by SQ421 (Post 23792684)
Thanks (^); I thought that was the case but the tool, while correctly booking in A for intra-US segments books in L for Intra-ME. Wasn't sure if a bug or an exception to rules.

Will be A on QR.

skunker Nov 5, 2014 10:00 am


Originally Posted by SQ421 (Post 23792684)
Thanks (^); I thought that was the case but the tool, while correctly booking in A for intra-US segments books in L for Intra-ME. Wasn't sure if a bug or an exception to rules.

It's a bug. When QR first joined the exception was not there. I emailed oneworld about it and the next round of rules changes they added the exception: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21889172-post114.html

The L bug remained and I emailed oneworld again and it was fixed, but it appears it is back. Your choices are
1) email oneworld, wait about 2 weeks, and go back and forth
2) use the online tool and book in L but change to A later
3) call AA RTW desk

SQ421 Nov 7, 2014 2:37 am

Thanks skunker

Now to toss up between an ex-CAI DONE4 and an ex-JNB DONE5

pandaperth Nov 7, 2014 4:58 am


Originally Posted by SQ421 (Post 23805268)
Thanks skunker

Now to toss up between an ex-CAI DONE4 and an ex-JNB DONE5

There is very little difference in base fare

So, IMHO, the decision comes down to:
  • whether you actually want to go to Africa
  • whether the two stopovers in continent of origin will be too onerous a constraint
  • which is easier to position to, and position from at the end

SQ421 Nov 7, 2014 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23805570)
There is very little difference in base fare

So, IMHO, the decision comes down to:
  • whether you actually want to go to Africa
  • whether the two stopovers in continent of origin will be too onerous a constraint
  • which is easier to position to, and position from at the end

- No
- No
- Positioning out of BOM to either JNB/CPT or CAI would be equal of a hassle.

Starting in South Africa and finishing in NBO does allow one to eke out the maximum mileage though. Can anyone comment if the following is a valid itin? (Mileagemonkey says it is)


CPT-xLHR-MEL-xAKL-PER-SYD-xHKG-BOM-xHKG-NRT-xHKG-JFK-LAX-xLHR-xDOH-xLHR-NBO

pandaperth Nov 7, 2014 3:56 pm


Originally Posted by SQ421 (Post 23808446)
Can anyone comment if the following is a valid itin? (Mileagemonkey says it is)


CPT-xLHR-MEL-xAKL-PER-SYD-xHKG-BOM-xHKG-NRT-xHKG-JFK-LAX-xLHR-xDOH-xLHR-NBO

No it isn't valid
MM has not been updated to reflect the new rules on two visits to Europe in conjunction with travel to/from Africa

And your CPT-LHR ... LHR-NBO is violating the new rules

You can get a copy of the rules on oneworld.com
The particular rule is 4(e), which in part states:

For travel originating in Africa:
One of the following backtracks is permitted
3.2.1 Africa-Europe-RTW-Europe-Africa
One of the visits to Europe must be a
transfer without stopover between Africa
and the previous/next continent.
Travel may not include Mauritius/South Africa
3.2.2 Africa-Middle East-RTW-Middle East-Africa
One of the visits to Middle East must be a
transfer without stopover between Africa
and the previous/next continent.
3.2.3 Africa-Europe-RTW-Middle East-Africa or Africa-Middle East-RTW-Europe-Africa
Travel may not include any flown or surface sector
Between Europe and Middle East

Because your two visits to Europe/Middle East are both to the Europe Zone, it falls under 3.2.1 and therefore you cannot include South Africa (or Mauritius)

Also, with regard to AKL-PER, just be aware that this is a seasonal flight - December to April I believe, and only operates twice a week (Saturday and Sunday)

SQ421 Nov 7, 2014 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23808545)
No it isn't valid
MM has not been updated to reflect the new rules on two visits to Europe in conjunction with travel to/from Africa

And your CPT-LHR ... LHR-NBO is violating the new rules

You can get a copy of the rules on oneworld.com
The particular rule is 4(e), which in part states:


Because your two visits to Europe/Middle East are both to the Europe Zone, it falls under 3.2.1 and therefore you cannot include South Africa (or Mauritius)

Also, with regard to AKL-PER, just be aware that this is a seasonal flight - December to April I believe, and only operates twice a week (Saturday and Sunday)

Thanks pandaperth

Yeah I'm aware of the seasonality of the AKL PER service, that is purely a mileage maximizer. Back to the drawing board I go.

pandaperth Nov 8, 2014 1:31 am


Originally Posted by SQ421 (Post 23809568)
Thanks pandaperth

...mileage maximizer. Back to the drawing board I go.

How about CPT-xLHR-MEL-xAKL-PER-AKL-xHKG-NRT-KUL-BOM-xHKG-JFK-LAX-DFW-DOH-CPT?

It is a legal routing (satisfies condition 3.2.3 in my above post)

Dr. HFH Nov 8, 2014 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23809848)
How about CPT-xLHR-MEL-xAKL-PER-AKL-xHKG-NRT-KUL-BOM-xHKG-JFK-LAX-DFW-DOH-CPT?

It is a legal routing (satisfies condition 3.2.3 in my above post)

Looks like it would work; but no QR F service to the U.S. for AONEx tix.

Calchas Nov 8, 2014 6:48 pm

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creampuff Nov 16, 2014 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 23812789)
Looks like it would work; but no QR F service to the U.S. for AONEx tix.

In that case fly CPT-DOH and DFW-LHR to remove the lack of F problem?

Dr. HFH Nov 16, 2014 5:45 pm


Originally Posted by creampuff (Post 23851207)
In that case fly CPT-DOH and DFW-LHR to remove the lack of F problem?

QR operates CPT/DOH several times a week with a 788. I didn't see any F service.

ajacpril Nov 18, 2014 10:59 am

Sorry for the noob question and also if I have missed the relevant link somewhere else in this thread, but where can I find current pricing by country for the various xONEx tickets? The only way I've found so far seems to be to make a dummy reservation and then price it, which is quite laborious.

skunker Nov 18, 2014 11:02 am


Originally Posted by ajacpril (Post 23860545)
Sorry for the noob question and also if I have missed the relevant link somewhere else in this thread, but where can I find current pricing by country for the various xONEx tickets? The only way I've found so far seems to be to make a dummy reservation and then price it, which is quite laborious.

That is one way. The base fares are no longer published online. Expertflyer or KVS can pull them up.

ajacpril Nov 18, 2014 11:14 am


That is one way. The base fares are no longer published online. Expertflyer or KVS can pull them up.
Thanks


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