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anaxbio Sep 19, 2016 10:49 pm

trying to book LONEX, found a very odd situation, when europe is included the price of ticket almost doubles, can experts advise why this is happening.

2 different LONE given with tax break up. below.

jnb-hkg-del-tyo-hnl-lax-CHI-las-dca-SLC-MIA-LIM-SCL-EZE-GRU-JNB
tax cost 8360 ZAR

2nd JNB-MAD-HEL-DXB-SYD-AKL-HKG-CMB-TYO-LAS-MIA-LIM-SCL-BUE-SAO-JNB,
TAX COST 28,000 zar

MAINLY due to MULTIPLE CARRIERE SURCHAGE 5000 ZAR, AND CARRIER SURCHAGE 14000 ZAR, CAN somebody help in understanding the difference,
i prefer the 2nd on so i can break the RTW twice in between so i can space out over 1 year ....

is this because there are 7 carriers in 2nd LONE where as only 4 in first does this affect pricing?

pandaperth Sep 19, 2016 11:53 pm


Originally Posted by anaxbio (Post 27236217)
trying to book LONEX, found a very odd situation, when europe is included the price of ticket almost doubles, can experts advise why this is happening.

2 different LONE given with tax break up. below.

jnb-hkg-del-tyo-hnl-lax-CHI-las-dca-SLC-MIA-LIM-SCL-EZE-GRU-JNB
tax cost 8360 ZAR

2nd JNB-MAD-HEL-DXB-SYD-AKL-HKG-CMB-TYO-LAS-MIA-LIM-SCL-BUE-SAO-JNB,
TAX COST 28,000 zar

MAINLY due to MULTIPLE CARRIERE SURCHAGE 5000 ZAR, AND CARRIER SURCHAGE 14000 ZAR, CAN somebody help in understanding the difference,
i prefer the 2nd on so i can break the RTW twice in between so i can space out over 1 year ....

is this because there are 7 carriers in 2nd LONE where as only 4 in first does this affect pricing?

The number of carriers will not affect the carrier surcharges
But the choice of carrier (some charge and some do not) and the choice of first carrier (some collect surcharges for other carriers, some do not) will affect the total carrier surcharges.

The difference is dramatic in your cases, which to me implies that CX (the first carrier in your 2nd itinerary) is more zealous in collecting surcharges for other carriers than is IB (the first carrier in your 1st itinerary)

Also, your 1st itinerary has six intra-USA flights, which do not have surcharges, while your 2nd itinerary has more inter-continental flights, which generally do have surcharges (and sometimes quite hefty surcharges)

Finally, your first itinerary is a LONE4 (four continents - Africa-Asia-Nth America-Sth America) while your 2nd itinerary is a LONE6 (Africa-Europe/Middle East-South West Pacific-Asia-Nth America-Sth America)
That increases the base fare by ZAR9,000

anaxbio Sep 20, 2016 12:44 am

hello pandaperth, t
hanks for the reply, i tried multiple itinaries, somehow the carrier charges increase only when Europe is included , i have seen upto LONE5 also if Europe is not included carrier charges do not go beyond 10000 ZAR but add any European city and the charges just triple.. still very confused what is so critical about European inclusion.

anaxbio Sep 20, 2016 12:46 am

also just to clarify I have only given the tax part of the total cost,
total cost excluding the surcharge is not hugely different in both itinaries somehow....

Calchas Sep 20, 2016 3:29 am


Originally Posted by anaxbio (Post 27236445)
also just to clarify I have only given the tax part of the total cost,
total cost excluding the surcharge is not hugely different in both itinaries somehow....

When you say "tax", are you including the carrier surcharges?

anaxbio Sep 20, 2016 3:54 am

yes calchas

Gardyloo Sep 20, 2016 9:44 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27236329)
The difference is dramatic in your cases, which to me implies that CX (the first carrier in your 2nd itinerary) is more zealous in collecting surcharges for other carriers than is IB (the first carrier in your 1st itinerary)...

I think it's the other way around - IB and Qantas are notorious surcharge collectors; CX isn't.

The additional continents will also add to the taxes/fees total, not to mention the base price.

pbd456 Sep 20, 2016 11:36 am

go to syd via hkg using cx should save you money.
europe to hk to syd on cx. then you only pay yq on jnb mad. if u have to do dxb, you will need to pay yq to dxb as well. cx is now charging a small yq for trips starting outside of hkg but it is still small.

dontflymuch Sep 21, 2016 1:10 pm

Hi, can anyone help please, I am trying to price up an itinerary on the OW site, but keep getting an error - 300: Due to traffic restrictions on this flight you must be booked on the operating carrier.

I've tried changing the cities, dates and carriers, but the error persists.

pbd456 Sep 21, 2016 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by dontflymuch (Post 27243935)
Hi, can anyone help please, I am trying to price up an itinerary on the OW site, but keep getting an error - 300: Due to traffic restrictions on this flight you must be booked on the operating carrier.

I've tried changing the cities, dates and carriers, but the error persists.

what is your first segmen t?

dontflymuch Sep 21, 2016 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27244137)
what is your first segmen t?

MPM-DOH is the first, this error appears between NRT and SIN

Whole itinerary

MPM-DOH-MAD-DXB-LHR-JFK-LAX-NRT-SIN-MEL-CPT

I was originally looking at:

MPM-DOH-MAD-DXB-LHR-JFK-YVR-HKG-TYO-SIN-MEL-CPT

but kept getting the error between TYO ans SIN

pbd456 Sep 21, 2016 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by dontflymuch (Post 27244282)
MPM-DOH is the first, this error appears between NRT and SIN

Whole itinerary

MPM-DOH-MAD-DXB-LHR-JFK-LAX-NRT-SIN-MEL-CPT

I was originally looking at:

MPM-DOH-MAD-DXB-LHR-JFK-YVR-HKG-TYO-SIN-MEL-CPT

but kept getting the error between TYO ans SIN

u cant book this online anyways.

rens Sep 22, 2016 12:31 am


Originally Posted by dontflymuch (Post 27244282)
MPM-DOH is the first, this error appears between NRT and SIN

Whole itinerary

MPM-DOH-MAD-DXB-LHR-JFK-LAX-NRT-SIN-MEL-CPT

I was originally looking at:

MPM-DOH-MAD-DXB-LHR-JFK-YVR-HKG-TYO-SIN-MEL-CPT

but kept getting the error between TYO ans SIN

I have in the past gotten the error when trying to select a codeshare instead of the operating carrier. If you saw the error when at the select flights stage, simply try a flight marketed by the operating airline.

dontflymuch Sep 22, 2016 12:46 am


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27244434)
u cant book this online anyways.

Ah okay,thanks. Will any OW RTW desk be able or is one better than another?

dontflymuch Sep 22, 2016 12:48 am


Originally Posted by rens (Post 27246108)
I have in the past gotten the error when trying to select a codeshare instead of the operating carrier. If you saw the error when at the select flights stage, simply try a flight marketed by the operating airline.

Thanks, don't think there are any codeshares but I'll check when i call


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