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anaxbio Sep 22, 2016 2:35 am


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27238623)
go to syd via hkg using cx should save you money.
europe to hk to syd on cx. then you only pay yq on jnb mad. if u have to do dxb, you will need to pay yq to dxb as well. cx is now charging a small yq for trips starting outside of hkg but it is still small.

Hi pbd456, thanks but the idea is to cover 2 continents at a time,
I start from India so
planning Africa & europe in first trip - then back home (through dubai)
Australia & Asia - 2nd trip - again back home,

then the long one of North & south america through tokyo & coming back, that is the plan at least,

we from south Asia do not have the benefit of visa free travel to most places hence need to break the travel to manage the visas for each of the countries :(:(

pbd456 Sep 22, 2016 7:21 am


Originally Posted by dontflymuch (Post 27246136)
Ah okay,thanks. Will any OW RTW desk be able or is one better than another?

aa rtw desk is easiest to work with but you need long haul segment on aa.

rud5 Sep 29, 2016 9:35 am

I have spend 3 long calls with the Qatar Airways helpdesk to get a quote/offer on the OneWorld Trip Explorer ticket. Both the customer service agent and I came to the same conclusion about this ticket:
it is practically useless for European travellers.

From Europe, it is pretty popular to travel to Australia/NZ and Southeast Asia. At first, OneWorld Trip Explorer seems perfect because you will do Europe + Middle East + Australia + Southeast Asia and back.

Unfortunately, you are required to stop in SOUTH Africa. Northern Africa is suddenly considered Europe.

A stopover on the southern hemisphere, in South Africa, when you want to travel to Australia/Southeast Asia makes absolutely no sense. It will take a lot of time and will be an exhausting trip. Also, a vacation/travelling to South Africa is usually a stand alone trip for Europeans, definitely not combined with countries on the other side of a massive ocean.

Trip Explorer can be great, but not for Europeans unfortunately :(

Now Kilroy has offered us the following (this is not an Explorer ticket). For a consumer, it is impossible to search on an airlines website or Google Flights or Kayak for this trip, even just the first 5 will lead to no results. How do I know whether this price is competitive?

Kilroy's offer:
For €2000pp (2 persons):
AMS>DPS (Bali, via DXB)
DPS>DRW (Darwin, Australia)
DRW>CNS (Cairns, Australia)
MEL>CHC (Christchurch, New Zealand)
AKL>SYD (New Zealand back to Australia just to be able to go to MNL)
SYD>MNL (to Manila)
BKK>AMS (via DXB)

The gaps or missing segments will either be done over land or via cheap airlines like AirAsia. I believe DPS>DRW should not be part of this itinerary because AirAsia is just €30pp for that route, but the lady added it anyway.

Calchas Sep 29, 2016 9:52 am

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Skatering Sep 29, 2016 10:54 am

Idiot question from me.

I keep using the online tool to price 'sample' DONE4s, which is extremely annoying have to select phantom flights just to obtain a price.

Am I right in thinking that a DONE4 is priced per carrier, per country, and if I subscribe to Expert Flyer, I'd be able to view these without playing around with the tool?

Calchas Sep 29, 2016 11:48 am


Originally Posted by Skatering (Post 27280195)
Idiot question from me.

I keep using the online tool to price 'sample' DONE4s, which is extremely annoying have to select phantom flights just to obtain a price.

Am I right in thinking that a DONE4 is priced per carrier, per country, and if I subscribe to Expert Flyer, I'd be able to view these without playing around with the tool?

The fares vary by origin city. Usually each city in the country has the same fare though.

Each oneworld carrier is supposed to publish the same fares at the same price. Usually that is the case.

You are correct that EF shows these base fares, but taxes, fees and surcharges are not included. If you wish I can post an example.

Skatering Sep 29, 2016 11:51 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27280500)
The fares vary by origin city. Usually each city in the country has the same fare though.

Each oneworld carrier is supposed to publish the same fares at the same price. Usually that is the case.

You are correct that EF shows these base fares, but taxes, fees and surcharges are not included. If you wish I can post an example.

Yes please.

I was looking at ex-JNB/WDH DONE4s before the prices went up. When the MPM fares were a hot topic I was unable to book until about 24 hours after they were pulled. I've been to Mozambique before and swore I'd never set foot there again, but I'd make an exception for a decent saving, which, IIRC, no longer exists.

As I'd need to break the trip in the middle with an embedded segment to LHR, the cost of this might render a TYO start better value. Basically, it's complicated, and a fares table would help greatly, even if there's some variation with taxes.

Calchas Sep 29, 2016 11:54 am


Originally Posted by Skatering (Post 27280514)
Yes please.

I was looking at ex-JNB/WDH DONE4s before the prices went up. When the MPM fares were a hot topic I was unable to book until about 24 hours after they were pulled. I've been to Mozambique before and swore I'd never set foot there again, but I'd make an exception for a decent saving, which, IIRC, no longer exists.

As I'd need to break the trip in the middle with an embedded segment to LHR, the cost of this might render a TYO start better value. Basically, it's complicated, and a fares table would help greatly, even if there's some variation with taxes.

Picking three carriers at random (BA, AA and UL), here are the fares they publish on JNB-JNB.

I have picked three to emphasize that they should all be publishing identical fares. In reality a fares tariff with just one publisher is easier to read. [Note though that AA does not participate in the -WC3 fares.]

Code:

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                    Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
LONEWC3    BA      L        Round-Trip  1225.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONEWC3    UL      L        Round-Trip  1225.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB29    AA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB29    BA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB29    UL      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      AA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      BA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      UL      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONEWC4    BA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONEWC4    UL      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    AA      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    BA      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    UL      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      AA      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      BA      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      UL      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    AA      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    BA      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    UL      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      AA      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      BA      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      UL      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
DONEWC3    BA      D        Round-Trip  4571.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONEWC3    UL      D        Round-Trip  4571.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DGLOB34    AA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DGLOB34    BA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DGLOB34    UL      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      AA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      BA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      UL      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONEWC4    BA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONEWC4    UL      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      AA      D        Round-Trip  5785.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      BA      D        Round-Trip  5785.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      UL      D        Round-Trip  5785.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE6      AA      D        Round-Trip  6860.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE6      BA      D        Round-Trip  6860.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE6      UL      D        Round-Trip  6860.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
AONEWC3    BA      A        Round-Trip  7155.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONEWC3    UL      A        Round-Trip  7155.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    AA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    BA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    UL      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      AA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      BA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      UL      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONEWC4    BA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONEWC4    UL      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      AA      A        Round-Trip  9461.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      BA      A        Round-Trip  9461.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      UL      A        Round-Trip  9461.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      AA      A        Round-Trip  11147.00 (GBP) F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      BA      A        Round-Trip  11147.00 (GBP) F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      UL      A        Round-Trip  11147.00 (GBP) F                            -- / 12M


Skatering Sep 29, 2016 12:01 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27280523)
Picking three carriers at random (BA, AA and UL), here are the fares they publish on JNB-JNB.

I have picked three to emphasize that they should all be publishing identical fares. In reality a fares tariff with just one publisher is easier to read. [Note though that AA does not participate in the -WC3 fares.]

Code:

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                    Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
LONEWC3    BA      L        Round-Trip  1225.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONEWC3    UL      L        Round-Trip  1225.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB29    AA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB29    BA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB29    UL      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      AA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      BA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      UL      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONEWC4    BA      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONEWC4    UL      L        Round-Trip  1323.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    AA      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    BA      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    UL      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      AA      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      BA      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      UL      L        Round-Trip  1562.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    AA      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    BA      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    UL      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      AA      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      BA      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      UL      L        Round-Trip  1837.00 (GBP)  E                            -- / 12M
DONEWC3    BA      D        Round-Trip  4571.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONEWC3    UL      D        Round-Trip  4571.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DGLOB34    AA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DGLOB34    BA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DGLOB34    UL      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      AA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      BA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      UL      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONEWC4    BA      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONEWC4    UL      D        Round-Trip  5023.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      AA      D        Round-Trip  5785.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      BA      D        Round-Trip  5785.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      UL      D        Round-Trip  5785.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE6      AA      D        Round-Trip  6860.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE6      BA      D        Round-Trip  6860.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE6      UL      D        Round-Trip  6860.00 (GBP)  B                            -- / 12M
AONEWC3    BA      A        Round-Trip  7155.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONEWC3    UL      A        Round-Trip  7155.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    AA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    BA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    UL      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      AA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      BA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      UL      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONEWC4    BA      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONEWC4    UL      A        Round-Trip  8224.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      AA      A        Round-Trip  9461.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      BA      A        Round-Trip  9461.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      UL      A        Round-Trip  9461.00 (GBP)  F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      AA      A        Round-Trip  11147.00 (GBP) F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      BA      A        Round-Trip  11147.00 (GBP) F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      UL      A        Round-Trip  11147.00 (GBP) F                            -- / 12M


Thank you.

And ouch, that's quite the increase on the DONE4 from a few months ago.

JAXBA Sep 29, 2016 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by rud5 (Post 27279838)
I have spend 3 long calls with the Qatar Airways helpdesk to get a quote/offer on the OneWorld Trip Explorer ticket. Both the customer service agent and I came to the same conclusion about this ticket: it is practically useless for European travellers.

From Europe, it is pretty popular to travel to Australia/NZ and Southeast Asia. At first, OneWorld Trip Explorer seems perfect because you will do Europe + Middle East + Australia + Southeast Asia and back.

Unfortunately, you are required to stop in SOUTH Africa. Northern Africa is suddenly considered Europe. A stopover on the southern hemisphere, in South Africa, when you want to travel to Australia/Southeast Asia makes absolutely no sense.

Hi rud5, welcome to Flyertalk!

I noticed you mentioned a oneworld 'Trip Explorer' which I'm guessing is the Circle Trip Explorer fare: https://www.oneworld.com/flights/mul...-trip-explorer - this does require visiting Africa (and is a different product from the oneworld Explorer round-the-world fare that most people discuss here). It doesn't seem like that's what you need, although I'm sure it's useful to someone.

Have you considered the Circle Asia & South West Pacific fare: https://www.oneworld.com/flights/mul...h-west-pacific or the Visit Australia & New Zealand fare: https://www.oneworld.com/flights/sin...ia-new-zealand ?

You'd still need to arrange flights from Europe to Asia/SW Pacific on oneworld but once you're there, you can pick up the Circle or Visit fare and move around.

Dr. HFH Sep 29, 2016 6:41 pm


Originally Posted by rud5 (Post 27279838)
I have spend 3 long calls with the Qatar Airways helpdesk to get a quote/offer on the OneWorld Trip Explorer ticket. Both the customer service agent and I came to the same conclusion about this ticket:
it is practically useless for European travellers.

From Europe, it is pretty popular to travel to Australia/NZ and Southeast Asia. At first, OneWorld Trip Explorer seems perfect because you will do Europe + Middle East + Australia + Southeast Asia and back.

Unfortunately, you are required to stop in SOUTH Africa. Northern Africa is suddenly considered Europe.

A stopover on the southern hemisphere, in South Africa, when you want to travel to Australia/Southeast Asia makes absolutely no sense. It will take a lot of time and will be an exhausting trip. Also, a vacation/travelling to South Africa is usually a stand alone trip for Europeans, definitely not combined with countries on the other side of a massive ocean.

Trip Explorer can be great, but not for Europeans unfortunately :(

Now Kilroy has offered us the following (this is not an Explorer ticket). For a consumer, it is impossible to search on an airlines website or Google Flights or Kayak for this trip, even just the first 5 will lead to no results. How do I know whether this price is competitive?

Kilroy's offer:
For €2000pp (2 persons):
AMS>DPS (Bali, via DXB)
DPS>DRW (Darwin, Australia)
DRW>CNS (Cairns, Australia)
MEL>CHC (Christchurch, New Zealand)
AKL>SYD (New Zealand back to Australia just to be able to go to MNL)
SYD>MNL (to Manila)
BKK>AMS (via DXB)

The gaps or missing segments will either be done over land or via cheap airlines like AirAsia. I believe DPS>DRW should not be part of this itinerary because AirAsia is just €30pp for that route, but the lady added it anyway.

Am I the only one here who doesn't understand this post at all? For example, xONEx does not require a visit to Africa going from Europe to Australia. What am I missing?

Calchas Sep 30, 2016 4:21 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27282210)
Am I the only one here who doesn't understand this post at all? For example, xONEx does not require a visit to Africa going from Europe to Australia. What am I missing?

It's not an xONEx, it's an xONEWCx, a oneworld Circle Trip Explorer. These are fares for constructing circle trips between Europe, Asia, Africa, and SWP. Africa must be included. I made the same mistake.

OWRTW Oct 4, 2016 8:11 pm

Been trying to book with multiple airlines a DONE4 ex-CAI with DOH as the final destination and all of them have been unable to make DOH the final destination. Apparently their booking system is forcing the last segment to head towards CAI.
From my understanding of the rules, one can start and end a trip anywhere in the M.E.

My two questions are:
Has anyone ever faced this issue when booking with an airline?
Is CAI considered part of the M.E.? (When creating the same itinerary on the OW tool I haven't faced any difficulties)

(Tried with both QF and QR)

Thank you!

cgo Oct 5, 2016 4:05 am

Hi! I am new to this forum.

I have gained enough mileage (150k+ miles) on Asia miles and I am excited to do a RTW trip.

I have been looking at OneWorld and the Multiple Carrier Award says I can only make a maximum of 5 (?) stopovers. That is quite fewer than expected.

Can I use my miles to pay for routes in OneWorld Global Explorer?

Any insights are welcome.

serfty Oct 5, 2016 4:42 am


Originally Posted by Clark Kendrick Go (Post 27305200)
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Can I use my miles to pay for routes in OneWorld Global Explorer?

No ... xONEx are revenue fares, not reward.


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