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danger Sep 2, 2016 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 27158847)
Only ex-Australia. Not ex-NZ or ex- anywhere else.


Originally Posted by danger (Post 27150504)
A member on Australian Frequent Flyer has posted some good news for those poor souls who purchase their Explorer fares (among others) from Qantas ex-Australia.

Qantas is abolishing the YQ on tickets issued from 1 September.

http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/201609/0901


OWRTW Sep 7, 2016 10:12 pm

Not sure if this has been discussed previously.

Has anyone had any luck booking segments in A class with QR when flying Middle East segments. More specifically, trying to use the online tool to book a CAI-DOH segment and its forcing me into economy.

Fare rules state that QR flights in the ME with no D class can be booked as A class. If I make the reservation over the phone will they allow me to book A class?

Thank you!

Kiwi Flyer Sep 8, 2016 4:20 am

Welcome to Flyer Talk OWRTW :)

That is a known bug with the online tool. You'll need to book directly with an airline or through a travel agent to get A class on QR middle east flights on a business class RTW.

OWRTW Sep 8, 2016 9:14 am

Thank you for the welcome and clarifying this issue Kiwi Flyer! :)


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 27181996)
Welcome to Flyer Talk OWRTW :)

That is a known bug with the online tool. You'll need to book directly with an airline or through a travel agent to get A class on QR middle east flights on a business class RTW.


skunker Sep 8, 2016 12:13 pm

This should no longer be a bug. I emailed oneworld about this exact thing years ago when QR joined oneworld and they did fix it.

Have you tried checking different dates?

Calchas Sep 8, 2016 5:00 pm


Originally Posted by OWRTW (Post 27181134)
Not sure if this has been discussed previously.

Has anyone had any luck booking segments in A class with QR when flying Middle East segments. More specifically, trying to use the online tool to book a CAI-DOH segment and its forcing me into economy.

Fare rules state that QR flights in the ME with no D class can be booked as A class. If I make the reservation over the phone will they allow me to book A class?

Thank you!

Are you sure the flights have availability in A?

QR seems to be restricting the A bucket quite tightly of late.

OWRTW Sep 9, 2016 12:04 am

Tried to change the dates but no luck in finding availability in A. I also tried to look for availability in A between DOH-DXB and couldn't find any on the 18 flights they run per day.


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 27183945)
This should no longer be a bug. I emailed oneworld about this exact thing years ago when QR joined oneworld and they did fix it.

Have you tried checking different dates?


OWRTW Sep 9, 2016 12:10 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27185235)
Are you sure the flights have availability in A?

QR seems to be restricting the A bucket quite tightly of late.

Do you mean restricting the A bucket to RTW tickets?

The majority of flights between DOH-CAI only have A as their premium cabin. The same goes for DOH-DXB.

Calchas Sep 9, 2016 4:44 am


Originally Posted by OWRTW (Post 27186490)
Do you mean restricting the A bucket to RTW tickets?

I mean QR often limits availability in the Alpha ("A") bucket. QR uses the A bucket internally for discount first class fares, and so QR tends to keep the numbers in it tightly capped.

For instance, the availability for Friday two weeks for now is [as seen from an office in London],
Code:

                                                                    Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart            Arrive            Aircraft  Reliability    Available Classes

QR 1306      0      CAI                DOH                320      F              F4 P2 A1 YL BL HL KL ML LC VC SC NC QC TC OC WC
                    23/09/16 1:10      23/09/16 5:25                94% / 10m

0 Connections
QR 1304      0      CAI                DOH                332      F              F4 PL AL YL BL HL KL ML LC VC SC NC QC TC OC WC
                    23/09/16 13:00    23/09/16 17:15              56% / 28m

0 Connections
QR 1302      0      CAI                DOH                77W      Daily          F6 P2 AL YL BL HL KL ML LC VC SC NC QC TC OC WC
                    23/09/16 19:10    23/09/16 23:25              75% / 19m

For QR 1304 and QR 1302, we have AL, meaning alpha class is full but open to wait listing.

(There is no mechanism to restrict what kind of fare uses the bucket, except by modifying the fare rules. The fact that the AONE* products use the same bucket as discount first class fares is unfortunate.)


Originally Posted by OWRTW (Post 27186490)
The majority of flights between DOH-CAI only have A as their premium cabin. The same goes for DOH-DXB.

We agree that QR renames its premium cabin as "first class" on some regional middle east routes. QR also uses Foxtrot ("F") and Papa ("P") classes as a first class buckets on these (and other) routes. Fares that book into F or P are usually more expensive than fares that only permit booking into A.

The AONE* fares do not allow booking into F or P on QR. On QR, only A, D, L or Y may be used (in that order of preference).

Code:

>$LB3                                                         
003 CAICAI 09SEP16 QR GBP 7597.00 AONE4    STAY---/12MBK-A   
FARE CLS  EXPLANATION                            BOOK CODES   
--------  ----------------------                ----------   
AONE4    FIRST CLASS AROUND THE WORLD FARES        A         
AONE4    APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES                       
                                                             
 BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS                                     
  VIA QR  A    REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE                 
  VIA QR  D    REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE                 
  VIA QR  L    REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE                 
  VIA QR  Y    REQUIRED

If A on a middle east regional flight is full, and there is no D class, then you will be offered L or Y class instead.

jrobin Sep 9, 2016 7:52 am

Can Oneworld Explorer Fare start in Russia (Asia)?
 
I am trying to purchase an LONE3 or LONE4 starting in VVO with an internal S7 flight.
However, a UK travel agent I have previously used to book Oneworld Explorer fares before says
"The Oneworld Explorer fare is offered from Asia, but not every city or country. In this case, Russia doesn’t offer one."

However, I can get a quote for a fare on Expertflyer VVO-VVO.

Does anyone have any comments or suggestions?

Thanks

christep Sep 9, 2016 8:04 am

Find a better travel agent!

jrobin Sep 9, 2016 8:20 am

Any suggestions? I have been using a UK travel agent which does a lot of RTW bookings.
PM me if you wish.

christep Sep 9, 2016 8:36 am

Actually, user Leo123 recently reported here a very good experience booking direct with S7 - this post contains the contact details.

pandaperth Sep 9, 2016 8:41 am


Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 27187689)
Any suggestions? I have been using a UK travel agent which does a lot of RTW bookings.
PM me if you wish.

Have you tried using the online booking tool?

If your proposed itinerary has BA or AA segments, then you should be able to phone the airline to purchase the ticket

jrobin Sep 9, 2016 8:49 am

Can Oneworld Explorer end with an overland segment?
 
Thanks for your helpful suggestions.
A related question for planning this trip:
Can Oneworld Explorer end with an overland segment from where I really intend to finish to where I started?
If so, are there any rules about it (e.g. overland segment must be in the same continent)?
Thanks


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