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The reality is that it is PITA for an agent to do the paperwork relating to funds collection in cases like these. It is often far simply to rebook the PAX
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That might explain why, having worked myself into quite a fit over this betrayal by my beloved QF, I decided to seek solace with BA - they made the change in about 2 seconds flat, and fee-free.
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 6004937)
As requested, below is a table showing "L" class FFP earning rates by airline flown/FFP.
Booking Class L - Redeemable miles/km per mile/km flown [CODE] FFP> AA* AY BA CX EI IB LA QF *Pts *Pts FLY V AA* 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 0.5 AY** 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1 BA* 0.25 0.5 0.25 0.5 Y Y 0.25 0.25 CX 0 1 0.25 1 Y N 1 0.5 EI 0 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1 IB 0.3 1 0.25 0 Y Y 0.3 1 LA 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1 QF 0.5 1 0.25 0.5 Y Y 0.7 1 Y/B/H/K/M/P/T And for CX member on L class: AA 100% Club Miles LA 100% Club Miles MA 100% Club miles IB 50% Club Miles JL INT 50% DOM 0 QF 50% Club Miles BA 50% Club Mile AY 0 RJ 0 |
Note this recent change: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...l#post12196254
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I wanted AKL-LAX- ... -NRT-SYD-MEL-AKL with stopovers at MEL and SYD. I was informed that I could only have two stopovers in my continent of origin (which I knew) but this rule variance meant I could have one stopover "at the start of the trip" and the one stopover "at the end"; I could not have none "at the start" and two "at the end" or vv. (That was what how it was put to me). It was no real issue in our case; I simply wanted to book most connections as stopovers¶ so I simply booked AKL-LAX- ... -NRT-xSYD-MEL-AKL (i.e. a transit in SYD). It is not an issue for such OZ flights if you start outside of SWP. ¶To avoid later fees and/or re-ticketing should I need to change routing resulting in a transfer (-x) becoming a stopover (-) |
Hi everyone,
I posted this question in the main oneworld forum, but didn't receive much of an answer, so I'll try again in this thread. I am planning an ex-CGK DONE3, which I will probably book through the AA RTW desk. I have been looking at the options, and it seems that I will probably need to pay in Indonesia. However, I was looking at the Explorer Fare Technical Rule Sheet, specifically rule 15, which says: 'When travel originates om a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale'. Now this raises a question for me because, it would seem to suggest that I could purchase my ex-CGK DONE3 in Australia at the Indonesia rate converted to AUD at the bank selling rate. I say this because there is no similar fare (xONE3) sold in Australia. Has anyone tried this, or have any thoughts on my interpretation? Thanks Fraserm |
That is the first time I have heard anyone suggest this,but by George I think you're right!
It then raises the possibility of buying an AONE3 in Australia for an ex-cheaper country price and then at some later point after travel has commenced reissuing it as an AONE6 for example saving a motza. |
Sorry to ask a question which may have been asked elsewhere ....... but how easy is it just to turn up at a travel agent or an airline ticket desk in, say, Montreal or Ottowa and buy an AONE6 on the spot for the Canadian$ equivalent of the locally published fare at the point of origin of the AONE6? If this is as simple as it seems to be for non-Canadians to do, then has anyone any recommendations as to a good agent or ticket desk where it can be done?
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Originally Posted by chrislondon2
(Post 13023304)
Sorry to ask a question which may have been asked elsewhere ....... but how easy is it just to turn up at a travel agent or an airline ticket desk in, say, Montreal or Ottowa and buy an AONE6 on the spot for the Canadian$ equivalent of the locally published fare at the point of origin of the AONE6? If this is as simple as it seems to be for non-Canadians to do, then has anyone any recommendations as to a good agent or ticket desk where it can be done?
I don't think there are any residency requirements for these tickets, so anybody can buy a ticket in any country and start there. I for one am thinking of buying a DONE5 starting in South Africa or Jordan, while I am a US citizen |
Originally Posted by fraserm
(Post 12701183)
Hi everyone,
I posted this question in the main oneworld forum, but didn't receive much of an answer, so I'll try again in this thread. I am planning an ex-CGK DONE3, which I will probably book through the AA RTW desk. I have been looking at the options, and it seems that I will probably need to pay in Indonesia. However, I was looking at the Explorer Fare Technical Rule Sheet, specifically rule 15, which says: 'When travel originates om a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale'. Now this raises a question for me because, it would seem to suggest that I could purchase my ex-CGK DONE3 in Australia at the Indonesia rate converted to AUD at the bank selling rate. I say this because there is no similar fare (xONE3) sold in Australia. Has anyone tried this, or have any thoughts on my interpretation? Thanks Fraserm
Originally Posted by 3544quebec
(Post 12704205)
That is the first time I have heard anyone suggest this,but by George I think you're right!
It then raises the possibility of buying an AONE3 in Australia for an ex-cheaper country price and then at some later point after travel has commenced reissuing it as an AONE6 for example saving a motza. |
A good Canadian agent
Originally Posted by chrislondon2
(Post 13023304)
....how easy is it just to turn up at a travel agent or an airline ticket desk in, say, Montreal or Ottowa and buy an AONE6 on the spot for the Canadian$ equivalent of the locally published fare at the point of origin of the AONE6?....
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Originally Posted by chrislondon2
(Post 13023304)
Sorry to ask a question which may have been asked elsewhere ....... but how easy is it just to turn up at a travel agent or an airline ticket desk in, say, Montreal or Ottowa and buy an AONE6 on the spot for the Canadian$ equivalent of the locally published fare at the point of origin of the AONE6? If this is as simple as it seems to be for non-Canadians to do, then has anyone any recommendations as to a good agent or ticket desk where it can be done?
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Originally Posted by chrislondon2
(Post 13023834)
I'm in SYD next week on a short side-trip from MNL on a DONE3. Unless anyone sees any problem in trying this, I'll certainly try for an AONE3 exTLV when I'm in SYD.
If for example there was a published fare for AONE3 ex SYD, you would need to pay the higher converted price of ex SYD or ex TLV, even though you are starting in TLV. This would almost certainly be ex SYD. Canada has legislation that prevents this "Higher Converted Cost" rule being applied to fares puchased from Canadian TA's. Here's the rule: (http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...rule_sheet.pdf) 15. SALES RESTRICTIONS When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable for sales made and/or travel originating in Canada or when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA)/Switzerland. |
Canadian prices for rtw product
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 13026150)
Note that as there are no published xONE3 fares ex Australia you it is possible you may be charged the xONE4 price (although reports on this vary).
If for example there was a published fare for AONE3 ex SYD, you would need to pay the higher converted price of ex SYD or ex TLV, even though you are starting in TLV. This would almost certainly be ex SYD. Canada has legislation that prevents this "Higher Converted Cost" rule being applied to fares puchased from Canadian TA's. Here's the rule: (http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...rule_sheet.pdf) Let me see if I am correct, regardless of which country my rtw ticket originates in I will have to pay the Canadian prices. :mad: However if I have AA issue the ticket, this rule will not apply. Am I correct? Which currency will AA bill me, USD or CAD? Everytime I have purchased AA tickets (from AA) I have been billed in CAD. |
No if bought from a Canadian travel agent or airline ticketing office you can get the lower rate applicable for the start of your ticket.
Buying in Canada normally means being billed in CAD. |
Thanks for the explanation Kiwi Flyer. There is so much information about rtw tickets sometimes, the amount of information can be overwhelming. This is all a learning process to me.
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