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serfty Oct 10, 2009 5:48 am

The reality is that it is PITA for an agent to do the paperwork relating to funds collection in cases like these. It is often far simply to rebook the PAX

So often, they let it go.

Hugh Oct 11, 2009 5:17 pm

That might explain why, having worked myself into quite a fit over this betrayal by my beloved QF, I decided to seek solace with BA - they made the change in about 2 seconds flat, and fee-free.

IC6A Oct 12, 2009 8:36 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 6004937)
As requested, below is a table showing "L" class FFP earning rates by airline flown/FFP.


Booking Class L - Redeemable miles/km per mile/km flown
[CODE]
FFP> AA* AY BA CX EI IB LA QF
*Pts *Pts
FLY
V

AA* 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 0.5
AY** 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1
BA* 0.25 0.5 0.25 0.5 Y Y 0.25 0.25
CX 0 1 0.25 1 Y N 1 0.5
EI 0 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1
IB 0.3 1 0.25 0 Y Y 0.3 1
LA 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1
QF 0.5 1 0.25 0.5 Y Y 0.7 1

looks like that CX member no longer earn Club miles on AY L class. The class for Club mile is reduced to:

Y/B/H/K/M/P/T

And for CX member on L class:

AA 100% Club Miles
LA 100% Club Miles
MA 100% Club miles
IB 50% Club Miles
JL INT 50% DOM 0
QF 50% Club Miles
BA 50% Club Mile
AY 0
RJ 0

serfty Oct 12, 2009 10:41 pm

Note this recent change: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...l#post12196254

Code:


  FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
          NOTE -
          MAXIMUM TWO STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN THE CONTINENT
          OF ORIGIN OF WHICH A MAXIMUM OF ONE STOPOVER IS
          PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN THE COUNTRY OF
          ORIGIN .

I booked a LONE4 for this morning via the AA ATW desk.

I wanted AKL-LAX- ... -NRT-SYD-MEL-AKL with stopovers at MEL and SYD.

I was informed that I could only have two stopovers in my continent of origin (which I knew) but this rule variance meant I could have one stopover "at the start of the trip" and the one stopover "at the end"; I could not have none "at the start" and two "at the end" or vv. (That was what how it was put to me).

It was no real issue in our case; I simply wanted to book most connections as stopovers so I simply booked AKL-LAX- ... -NRT-xSYD-MEL-AKL (i.e. a transit in SYD).

It is not an issue for such OZ flights if you start outside of SWP.

To avoid later fees and/or re-ticketing should I need to change routing resulting in a transfer (-x) becoming a stopover (-)

fraserm Oct 24, 2009 7:20 am

Hi everyone,

I posted this question in the main oneworld forum, but didn't receive much of an answer, so I'll try again in this thread.

I am planning an ex-CGK DONE3, which I will probably book through the AA RTW desk. I have been looking at the options, and it seems that I will probably need to pay in Indonesia. However, I was looking at the Explorer Fare Technical Rule Sheet, specifically rule 15, which says:
'When travel originates om a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale'.

Now this raises a question for me because, it would seem to suggest that I could purchase my ex-CGK DONE3 in Australia at the Indonesia rate converted to AUD at the bank selling rate. I say this because there is no similar fare (xONE3) sold in Australia.

Has anyone tried this, or have any thoughts on my interpretation?

Thanks

Fraserm

3544quebec Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm

That is the first time I have heard anyone suggest this,but by George I think you're right!

It then raises the possibility of buying an AONE3 in Australia for an ex-cheaper country price and then at some later point after travel has commenced reissuing it as an AONE6 for example saving a motza.

chrislondon2 Dec 20, 2009 8:56 am

Sorry to ask a question which may have been asked elsewhere ....... but how easy is it just to turn up at a travel agent or an airline ticket desk in, say, Montreal or Ottowa and buy an AONE6 on the spot for the Canadian$ equivalent of the locally published fare at the point of origin of the AONE6? If this is as simple as it seems to be for non-Canadians to do, then has anyone any recommendations as to a good agent or ticket desk where it can be done?

Deltahater Dec 20, 2009 9:20 am


Originally Posted by chrislondon2 (Post 13023304)
Sorry to ask a question which may have been asked elsewhere ....... but how easy is it just to turn up at a travel agent or an airline ticket desk in, say, Montreal or Ottowa and buy an AONE6 on the spot for the Canadian$ equivalent of the locally published fare at the point of origin of the AONE6? If this is as simple as it seems to be for non-Canadians to do, then has anyone any recommendations as to a good agent or ticket desk where it can be done?


I don't think there are any residency requirements for these tickets, so anybody can buy a ticket in any country and start there. I for one am thinking of buying a DONE5 starting in South Africa or Jordan, while I am a US citizen

chrislondon2 Dec 20, 2009 10:46 am


Originally Posted by fraserm (Post 12701183)
Hi everyone,

I posted this question in the main oneworld forum, but didn't receive much of an answer, so I'll try again in this thread.

I am planning an ex-CGK DONE3, which I will probably book through the AA RTW desk. I have been looking at the options, and it seems that I will probably need to pay in Indonesia. However, I was looking at the Explorer Fare Technical Rule Sheet, specifically rule 15, which says:
'When travel originates om a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale'.

Now this raises a question for me because, it would seem to suggest that I could purchase my ex-CGK DONE3 in Australia at the Indonesia rate converted to AUD at the bank selling rate. I say this because there is no similar fare (xONE3) sold in Australia.

Has anyone tried this, or have any thoughts on my interpretation?

Thanks

Fraserm


Originally Posted by 3544quebec (Post 12704205)
That is the first time I have heard anyone suggest this,but by George I think you're right!

It then raises the possibility of buying an AONE3 in Australia for an ex-cheaper country price and then at some later point after travel has commenced reissuing it as an AONE6 for example saving a motza.

I'm in SYD next week on a short side-trip from MNL on a DONE3. Unless anyone sees any problem in trying this, I'll certainly try for an AONE3 exTLV when I'm in SYD.

Full Score Dec 20, 2009 12:34 pm

A good Canadian agent
 

Originally Posted by chrislondon2 (Post 13023304)
....how easy is it just to turn up at a travel agent or an airline ticket desk in, say, Montreal or Ottowa and buy an AONE6 on the spot for the Canadian$ equivalent of the locally published fare at the point of origin of the AONE6?....

Try Elly Miller at Imperial Travel in Montreal: [email protected]. He has issued many RTWs for me starting in Canada, Doha, Mauritius and Cape Town. You can do it all via Email. The tickets will be charged in Can$, but you can use a non-Canadian credit card. It's worth the small fee; he's extremely diligent and responsive.

Dr. HFH Dec 20, 2009 4:28 pm


Originally Posted by chrislondon2 (Post 13023304)
Sorry to ask a question which may have been asked elsewhere ....... but how easy is it just to turn up at a travel agent or an airline ticket desk in, say, Montreal or Ottowa and buy an AONE6 on the spot for the Canadian$ equivalent of the locally published fare at the point of origin of the AONE6? If this is as simple as it seems to be for non-Canadians to do, then has anyone any recommendations as to a good agent or ticket desk where it can be done?

Not very. You need to book it, the itinerary needs to be validated and fared, etc. When you're doing that, tell whomever is doing the work for you that you want it set up for purchase at YYZ, etc., and it will be. But don't for a minute think that you're just going to walk up to the AA or BA counters in YYZ or wherever and book and buy your ticket. Not going to happen.

serfty Dec 20, 2009 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by chrislondon2 (Post 13023834)
I'm in SYD next week on a short side-trip from MNL on a DONE3. Unless anyone sees any problem in trying this, I'll certainly try for an AONE3 exTLV when I'm in SYD.

Note that as there are no published xONE3 fares ex Australia you it is possible you may be charged the xONE4 price (although reports on this vary).

If for example there was a published fare for AONE3 ex SYD, you would need to pay the higher converted price of ex SYD or ex TLV, even though you are starting in TLV. This would almost certainly be ex SYD.

Canada has legislation that prevents this "Higher Converted Cost" rule being applied to fares puchased from Canadian TA's.

Here's the rule: (http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...rule_sheet.pdf)

15. SALES RESTRICTIONS
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable for sales made and/or travel originating in Canada or when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA)/Switzerland.


startpacking Dec 21, 2009 9:27 pm

Canadian prices for rtw product
 

Originally Posted by serfty (Post 13026150)
Note that as there are no published xONE3 fares ex Australia you it is possible you may be charged the xONE4 price (although reports on this vary).

If for example there was a published fare for AONE3 ex SYD, you would need to pay the higher converted price of ex SYD or ex TLV, even though you are starting in TLV. This would almost certainly be ex SYD.

Canada has legislation that prevents this "Higher Converted Cost" rule being applied to fares puchased from Canadian TA's.

Here's the rule: (http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...rule_sheet.pdf)


Let me see if I am correct, regardless of which country my rtw ticket originates in I will have to pay the Canadian prices. :mad:
However if I have AA issue the ticket, this rule will not apply. Am I correct? Which currency will AA bill me, USD or CAD? Everytime I have purchased AA tickets (from AA) I have been billed in CAD.

Kiwi Flyer Dec 22, 2009 2:23 pm

No if bought from a Canadian travel agent or airline ticketing office you can get the lower rate applicable for the start of your ticket.

Buying in Canada normally means being billed in CAD.

startpacking Dec 22, 2009 2:29 pm

Thanks for the explanation Kiwi Flyer. There is so much information about rtw tickets sometimes, the amount of information can be overwhelming. This is all a learning process to me.


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