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Kiwi Flyer Aug 28, 2008 12:26 pm

The South America transit exceptions allow you to touch North America twice as long as one is just a transit to/from South America.

Any touch of North America counts as a continent though.

hippo Nov 8, 2008 11:48 pm

xONEx 16 segment restrictions and Can I buy more segments
 
In the xONEx FAQ, we have this question


Originally Posted by eamus (Post 3024164)

Q: Can I buy more segments?
A: Yes, you can buy up to two more segments per continent, other than the continent of origin, at varying prices depending on the class in which you are booked. You cannot, however, have more than 20 segments in total.

There's lots of discussion in various threads about 16 segments being a limitation of etickets. There's also lots of discussions about what could be done in the future to allow etickets to exceed that limitation (there seems to be no agreement, or confirmation, however on the viability of the proposals. My interest is in what is possible right now).

I also note that it really does look like some ft'ers are managing to purchase additional segments for itineraries in the 16-20 segment range.

My question is, how? (Or am I wishfully misinterpreting what I'm reading?)

Does it require a paper ticket and insistence that you get one?

Do you re-route mid journey and insert additional sectors after you have used the first 4?

The ATW help desk were pretty emphatic that it is simply no longer possible.

If it really isn't possible (and I hope that is not the case), then perhaps
the FAQ should be updated.

Oh, and thanks everyone who has contributed to this knowledge base, it's a very valuable resource. In the close to decade I've been using these fares, it seems it is getting more and more complicated.

christep Nov 9, 2008 1:00 am

Unfortunately the FAQ is out of date - the maximum (including additional paid segments) changed from 20 to 16 on 1 July 2008 (IIRC).

wandering_fred Nov 9, 2008 1:02 am


Originally Posted by hippo (Post 10691701)
In the xONEx FAQ, we have this question
There's lots of discussion in various threads about 16 segments being a limitation of etickets. There's also lots of discussions about what could be done in the future to allow etickets to exceed that limitation (there seems to be no agreement, or confirmation, however on the viability of the proposals. My interest is in what is possible right now).
I also note that it really does look like some ft'ers are managing to purchase additional segments for itineraries in the 16-20 segment range.
My question is, how? (Or am I wishfully misinterpreting what I'm reading?)

The additional coupons were only ever (and still are) to increase the number of coupons over the normal ration in each continent. (eg you needed 7 rather than 6 in NA) The maximum number of coupons was not increased. Sorry.

Having said that - where do you need the additional coupons and where is your xONEx originating. Using xONEx coupons for short segments in NorthAmerica is (in my opinion) a waste of a good coupon. Check the prices on the Visit USA pages (on oneworld.com) for the prices of the short segments.

Happy wandering

Fred

serfty Nov 30, 2008 3:40 pm

Amendments/Suggestions:

There is still mention of 20 segments on the opening post(s).
I can't see a para about "touching" a continent (e.g. LHR-SYD flights 'touching' Asia, nor about the ORD/DEL "Look down, there's Europe!" rule.

kulevet Jan 9, 2009 8:39 am

If you need to change dates/times of flights after u depart are there special numbers u need to call or do you just call the airline involved in the country you are in at that time and ask for the RTW desk? cheers

serfty Jan 9, 2009 3:34 pm

It's generally best to contact the entity who did the ticketing in the first place.

beorbe Jan 12, 2009 12:42 pm

JNB-PER
 
Can one use QF304 for travel between JNB and PER for a RTW explorer which is a code share with SA

jerry a. laska Jan 12, 2009 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by beorbe (Post 11061178)
Can one use QF304 for travel between JNB and PER for a RTW explorer which is a code share with SA

If the flight is operated by SA - South African Airways - then, no.

(i) Travel on any AA/AY/BA/CX/IB/JC/JL/JO/ KA / LA/LP/MA/NU/QF/RJ/XL/4M codeshare service
operated by AA/AY/BA/CX/EG/IB/JC/JL/JO/ KA / LA/LP/MA/NU/QF/RJ/XL/4M is permitted. Other
codeshare services not permitted.
Technical Rule Sheet
www.oneworld .com
Technical Rule sheet as per Reservations Systems 4
Additionally, travel permitted on the following airlines which are affiliated with/or wetlease providers to
oneworld:
AMERICAN AIRLINES - American Eagle including flights operated by Executive Air/American
Connection - including flights operated by Chautauqua, Trans States
BRITISH AIRWAYS –BA CityFlyer including flights operated by Flightline / Comair / Sun-Air
IBERIA AIRLINES – Air Nostrum / Gestair
JAPAN AIRLINES – J- Air
LAN AIRLINES – Lan Express
MALEV – Carpatair, Base Ltd, Moldavian Airlines (excluding BUD-KIV vv)
QANTAS – Alliance Airlines, QantasLink operated by Eastern Australia, Jetconnect,
National Jet Systems and Sunstate Airlines
Ground transportation services operated by/for BA/QF may not be included as part of the oneworld
Explorer.
http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...rule_sheet.pdf

serfty Jan 12, 2009 3:56 pm


Originally Posted by beorbe (Post 11061178)
Can one use QF304 for travel between JNB and PER for a RTW explorer which is a code share with SA

You did not specify what type of "Explorer". OF course, this thread is about the oneworld explorer. In any case, to clarify:
  • For "oneworld Explorer" (xONEx), no!
  • For "Global Explorer" (xGLOBnn), yes.

serfty Jan 14, 2009 3:50 pm

The link in this para is no longer working:

Originally Posted by eamus (Post 3024164)
...
Q: What are the continents on which the fare is calculated? Which countries are in which continent?
A: Forget all your geography lessons, and take a look at the map accessible by clicking this hyperlink and you should see the continents. ...


serfty Jan 15, 2009 3:35 pm

This link is available on the oneworld web site and is a .pdf of a map with the "Continents" highlighted: (note it's ~750K)It could be used to replace the broken rtwinfo link in the OP.

pandaperth Jan 15, 2009 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 11084015)
This link is available on the oneworld web site and is a .pdf of a map with the "Continents" highlighted: (note it's ~750K)It could be used to replace the broken rtwinfo link in the OP.

Mmm. IIRC LAN Ecuador has recently started flights to the Galapagos Islands. The map show them to be part of Nth Am. If correct, this would make it impossible to visit the islands on a xONEx

Also, the Caribbean Islands just off the coast of Sth Am are shown to be part of Sth Am, which I'm pretty sure is incorrect (e.g. Trinidad & Tobago, Grenada, The Netherlands Antilles).
Panama seems to be in both Nth and Sth Am.

serfty Jan 15, 2009 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 11084180)
Mmm. IIRC LAN Ecuador has recently started flights to the Galapagos Islands. ...
Also, the Caribbean Islands just off the coast of Sth Am are shown to be part of Sth Am, which I'm pretty sure is incorrect (e.g. Trinidad & Tobago, Grenada, The Netherlands Antilles).
Panama seems to be in both Nth and Sth Am.

You are correct; but this map is better than nothing. ;)

It may be that these do not actually define the xONEx's continents, but perhaps various Tariff (Sub-)Continents.

I've posted your comments on the oneworld4U thread ...

blaknail Jan 19, 2009 12:43 pm

Premium economy upgradeable?
 
Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but can't find it.

I'm thinking of booking an (economy) oneworld explorer ticket, with the first leg LHR-CPT. If I take the optional paid upgrade to premium economy (BA WTP), what fare bucket does it book in to, and can that be upgraded with miles to Club World?

I also have some AA miles; I know the fare rules imply that you can't mix economy and business segments, but is there anything to stop me upgrading the AA legs with eVIPs or miles?

Many thanks in advance!


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