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quitecontrary Mar 29, 2011 10:19 am

AONE4 ex DOH
 
I've got an AONE4 RTW itinerany ex DOH priced up at QAR88,000 (approx £7500 or US$12000) is this a good price?

Also do I just buy it online or do I try to get AA to ticket it which I've read saves taxes or will this not apply in the this case? I'm still in the planning stages but wanted to know the best place to start from, way to go about booking it etc.

Gardyloo Mar 29, 2011 11:08 am


Originally Posted by quitecontrary (Post 16122310)
I've got an AONE4 RTW itinerany ex DOH priced up at QAR88,000 (approx £7500 or US$12000) is this a good price?

Also do I just buy it online or do I try to get AA to ticket it which I've read saves taxes or will this not apply in the this case? I'm still in the planning stages but wanted to know the best place to start from, way to go about booking it etc.

The tax and fuel surcharge questions will largely depend on your route and choice of carriers, and can't be answered without more information on your plans.

In terms of base cost for AONExs, Qatar is among the cheaper origin points; you might look at AMM, which (today) would be around US$200 cheaper for a base price.

Moomba Mar 29, 2011 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by quitecontrary (Post 16122310)
I've got an AONE4 RTW itinerany ex DOH priced up at QAR88,000 (approx £7500 or US$12000) is this a good price?

Also do I just buy it online or do I try to get AA to ticket it which I've read saves taxes or will this not apply in the this case? I'm still in the planning stages but wanted to know the best place to start from, way to go about booking it etc.

I take it you mean 44000 QAR? The base price for ex DOH is 37250 QAR.

I assume you have chosen the BA flight as your first which means the online tool will be quite happy to take all your details and then tell you to contact the local BA office to arrange payment. IIRC someone on here has stated that there is some Qatari law or regulation that says than CC payments must be made with the card holder present. So that makes it somewhat difficult.

I also tried to purchase an ex-AMM this weekend which books through AA ticketing and the tool was quite happy to accept all my details and CC number. It then told me that the flights were not available at that fare and to contact the local AA office. This advice was particularly useful since AA don't have a presence in Jordan. :rolleyes:

Upshot is that the wonderful online tool that OW provide is about as useless as used toilet paper in some situations.

I have read on here that someone was able to book an ex-AMM successfully using the online tool but I am unsure which gods you have to pray to that can make this happen.

BrewerSEA Mar 29, 2011 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by quitecontrary (Post 16122310)
I've got an AONE4 RTW itinerany ex DOH priced up at QAR88,000 (approx £7500 or US$12000) is this a good price?

Also do I just buy it online or do I try to get AA to ticket it which I've read saves taxes or will this not apply in the this case? I'm still in the planning stages but wanted to know the best place to start from, way to go about booking it etc.

The online tool has never worked for me when it comes to purchasing tickets, though it ostensibly should work at least some of the time. ex-AMM or ex-RUH first segment on RJ my purchases failed at the same point as Moomba.

If you want AA to issue your ticket offline ex-DOH you might try to contact the AA ticketing representative in Doha. They may or may not be willing/able to issue the ticket without your physical presence.

Overseas Travel Bureau
Al Taei Street
Al Watan Centre Complex
PO Box 7349
Doha
Qatar
Phone: +974-44995736 / 44995737
Fax: +974-44995701
Another option is to make use of the Canada exception. Have AA hold your itinerary and price it out for purchase in Canada then purchase it at a ticket counter or have a Canadian TA coordinate the purchase.

quitecontrary Mar 30, 2011 2:46 am


Originally Posted by Moomba (Post 16123465)
I take it you mean 44000 QAR? The base price for ex DOH is 37250 QAR.

Thanks for the replies. OOPs sorry - yes QAR44,000 - I'm pricing for 2 people but the £/$ prices are correct.

I'm interested in the Canada Exception - I did read your posts on your trip - Brewer and see that you popped over the border and bought your's in Vancouver - not so easy from the UK;). I have used a Canadian TA recently (a poster on another board) to book a hotel through Virtuoso for me so I could possibly pay that way when I come to book assuning that I can use a UK based Credit Card. Anyone done this from the UK?

Lux Mar 30, 2011 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 16122631)
...you might look at AMM, which (today) would be around US$200 cheaper for a base price.

Amman is also a significantly more interesting place to start your trip from; and easyJet are shortly starting flights from London which would make getting to your start point more convenient, if not a trip in comfort.

HK-UMICH Apr 12, 2011 1:16 am

Some questions needs advise, thanks!

1) I am thinking a LONE4 ex-AKL (I resides in HKG but seems AKL is cheaper and I will take positioning flt with award tkt). Any place will be cheaper?

2) It used to be AA ticketing office in Auckland but I no longer see it listed in AA.com, any one know how I can issue the ticket? (I plan to phone AA RTW Desk in the US and set up the ticket to be purchased in AKL...it used to work but don't know now).

3) AA still has the cheapest overall surcharges right? if no, shall I tkt with CX?

4) The following is my planned itn:

AKL-HKG-DEL-HKG-Asia City #2-HKG-JFK-DFW-ANC-ORD-SJU-LAX-LHR/x-DXB-LHR-HKG/x-AKL

(I think it is valid, any point I missed? The AA's ANC-DFW/ORD is summer only and I will take it at Sept, any chance to get more AA miles?)

5) I saw the HKG-AKL with BA flt number when booking with BA.com but cannot see it with Oneworld Timetable, can I book it as BA number?

Thanks!

serfty Apr 12, 2011 6:27 am

1. Maybe, I'll concentrate on ex NZ

2. +64 9912 8814 (http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/inter...oneContact.jsp) There is no AA office in New Zealand. That number will connect you with a Mindpearl office in Brisbane. They often don't want to ticket an ex NZ itinerary if calling from outside NZ.

3) Generally - YMMV

4) CX flys HKG-AKL, there may be a BA codeshare

HK-UMICH Apr 12, 2011 7:36 pm

Dear all,

The rule said that only 1 i/c arrival/departure except “one is a transfer without stopover or on direct single plane service between the SWP and Europe”, is that interpret as:

A: “one is a transfer without stopover” OR “on direct single plane service between the SWP and Europe”
OR
B: one is a “transfer without stopover” OR “direct single plane service” BETWEEN THE SWP AND EUROPE?

I tried the following with online tool and it validated, but don’t know if it still the same when talking with RTW desk.
AKL-HKG/x-JFK-DFW-ANC-ORD-SJU-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-HKG-ICN-HKG-DPS-HKG-AKL

Any ideas? Thanks!

Mwenenzi Apr 12, 2011 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by HK-UMICH (Post 16208032)
AKL-HKG/x-JFK..

AKL-HKG/x-JFK is not SWP to Europe. But you can only ask

Gardyloo Apr 12, 2011 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by HK-UMICH (Post 16208032)
Dear all,

The rule said that only 1 i/c arrival/departure except “one is a transfer without stopover or on direct single plane service between the SWP and Europe”, is that interpret as:

A: “one is a transfer without stopover” OR “on direct single plane service between the SWP and Europe”
OR
B: one is a “transfer without stopover” OR “direct single plane service” BETWEEN THE SWP AND EUROPE?

I tried the following with online tool and it validated, but don’t know if it still the same when talking with RTW desk.
AKL-HKG/x-JFK-DFW-ANC-ORD-SJU-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-HKG-ICN-HKG-DPS-HKG-AKL

Any ideas? Thanks!

To the best of my knowledge, all attempts over the past couple of years to get one of the airlines' tariff desks to validate any interpretation of the "second Asia entry" rule that doesn't entail a SWP < > Europe transit have been rejected. If the online tool okays the route, allows payment, and you actually get an e-ticket with a routing like SWP > xAsia > North America on it, count yourself lucky.

RTW4 Apr 14, 2011 5:20 am

Just ticketed at JNB-HKG-NRT-HKG-MEL-HKG-LAX-DFW-ANC-DFW-LAX-JFK-LHR-TLV-LHR_JNB with the AA RTW desk.. no questions asked.. so the SWP-ASIA-North America was allowed.. FYI...

BrewerSEA Apr 14, 2011 7:03 am


Originally Posted by RTW4 (Post 16216112)
Just ticketed at JNB-HKG-NRT-HKG-MEL-HKG-LAX-DFW-ANC-DFW-LAX-JFK-LHR-TLV-LHR_JNB with the AA RTW desk.. no questions asked.. so the SWP-ASIA-North America was allowed.. FYI...

Very interesting. I wonder if you would have been successful if you also had a Europe-SWP segment. Perhaps this was allowed because you don't have more than one Asia transit without stopover?

danger Apr 14, 2011 7:30 am


Originally Posted by RTW4 (Post 16216112)
Just ticketed at JNB-HKG-NRT-HKG-MEL-HKG-LAX-DFW-ANC-DFW-LAX-JFK-LHR-TLV-LHR_JNB with the AA RTW desk.. no questions asked.. so the SWP-ASIA-North America was allowed.. FYI...


Originally Posted by BrewerSEA (Post 16216485)
Very interesting. I wonder if you would have been successful if you also had a Europe-SWP segment. Perhaps this was allowed because you don't have more than one Asia transit without stopover?

I plugged a similar routing into the oneworld itinerary planner to see if I could replicate RTW4's success. Basically, it was DAR-JNB-HKG-SYD-MEL-xHKG-JFK . . . I got a warning saying "your second visit to this continent must be less than 24 hours" when I entered HKG the second time. So it would seem that the 'less than 24 hours' is the key.

danger Apr 14, 2011 7:31 am


Originally Posted by RTW4 (Post 16216112)
Just ticketed at JNB-HKG-NRT-HKG-MEL-HKG-LAX-DFW-ANC-DFW-LAX-JFK-LHR-TLV-LHR_JNB with the AA RTW desk.. no questions asked.. so the SWP-ASIA-North America was allowed.. FYI...


Originally Posted by BrewerSEA (Post 16216485)
Very interesting. I wonder if you would have been successful if you also had a Europe-SWP segment. Perhaps this was allowed because you don't have more than one Asia transit without stopover?

I plugged a similar routing into the oneworld itinerary planner to see if I could replicate RTW4's success. Basically, it was DAR-JNB-HKG-SYD-MEL-xHKG-JFK . . . I got a warning saying "your second visit to this continent must be less than 24 hours" when I entered HKG the second time. So it would seem that the 'less than 24 hours' is the key.

RTW4, is your second visit to Asia less than 24 hours?


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