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foleyfoley Dec 29, 2011 2:58 am

Explorer itinerary Possibility
 
How Does this Itinerary Look for One World Explorer?

ANC - LAX - PPT-AKL-NAN-SYD-MNL-HKG-DPS-HKG-SIN-CMB-AMM/NBO-LHR-LAX-ANC



tHANKS.

pandaperth Dec 29, 2011 4:17 am


Originally Posted by foleyfoley (Post 17708413)
How Does this Itinerary Look for One World Explorer?

ANC - LAX - PPT-AKL-NAN-SYD-MNL-HKG-DPS-HKG-SIN-CMB-AMM/NBO-LHR-LAX-ANC



tHANKS.

How does it look? Pretty hopeless I'm sorry to say

Your issue is that no Oneworld airlines fly between a number of your ports, namely:
ANC-LAX and LAX-ANC (AA does not fly this route - it codeshares on AS and in general codeshares on non-OW airlines are not allowed)
LAX-PPT
PPT-AKL (QF codeshare on TN not allowed)
AKL-NAN
NAN-SYD

The rest of the itinerary is OK (SYD-MNL-HKG-DPS-HKG-SIN-CMB-AMM/NBO-LHR-LAX)
and BTW RJ flies between AMM and NBO

The rules of the ticket are here

There is another RTW ticket called the Global Explorer; its rules are here. It would allow all the flights on your itinerary, BUT it is a mileage-based ticket and your itinerary well exceeds the maximum miles allowed.

ps Welcome to FT

foleyfoley Jan 4, 2012 3:34 am

Wow. I really overlooked somethings.
So, I was not aware of the no Codeshare on TN.
Does that mean the only way to fly to Tahiti is to use Lan Chile from Santiago?
Why do they show the route on the "ONEWORLD explorer interactive Map" tool?
The RJ flight from AMM to NBO. Thanks. I totally missed that one.
And Lastly, so I can really get burned ... the "ONEWORLD explorer interactive Map" tool shows a codeshare Alaska airline flight from ANC-LAX. When you say,
"in general codeshares on non-OW airlines are not allowed"
... when are codeshares allowed, and why do they show up on the interactive tool.
Thanks again.

Gardyloo Jan 4, 2012 7:24 am


Originally Posted by foleyfoley (Post 17743646)
Wow. I really overlooked somethings.
So, I was not aware of the no Codeshare on TN.
Does that mean the only way to fly to Tahiti is to use Lan Chile from Santiago?
Why do they show the route on the "ONEWORLD explorer interactive Map" tool?
The RJ flight from AMM to NBO. Thanks. I totally missed that one.
And Lastly, so I can really get burned ... the "ONEWORLD explorer interactive Map" tool shows a codeshare Alaska airline flight from ANC-LAX. When you say,
"in general codeshares on non-OW airlines are not allowed"
... when are codeshares allowed, and why do they show up on the interactive tool.
Thanks again.

I think you're mistakenly adding the word "Explorer" when you mention the "Oneworld Interactive Network Map." That map shows all Oneworld routes (in fact, from time to time more than all ;) ) not just those eligible using the Oneworld Explorer RTW product.

The TN and Alaska codeshare flights (and others on non-OW members' metal) are shown because those carriers and routes are available using other products, in particular the Global Explorer, the mileage-based RTW product. For example, using the GlobEx you can fly on Lan to Tahiti, then on to Oz/NZ using the Qantas codeshare on TN; similarly you can use Alaska Airlines in the western US if the flight carries an AA code (which many do.)

But using the mileage-unlimited Oneworld Explorer, you can only use OW member metal. The map tool shows both.

mvtm Jan 4, 2012 8:38 am


Originally Posted by mvtm (Post 17683095)
How about a LONE5?

CCS-MIA-SFO-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-HND/NRT-HEL-MAD-CCS

It's about 34.000 miles
4.123 USD + 921USD tax= 5.074,95 USD

Is this good or it's expensive. Cheaper would be even better. I wanted to add Moscow, but couldn't get from Japan to Moscow... without exceeding the allowed segments.

I'm based in Caracas,Venezuela. Just was testing this, first time i use this OW tool.

Hi all, can someone take a look here and comment? I need some input ^
Thanks in advance.

Gardyloo Jan 4, 2012 9:05 am


Originally Posted by mvtm (Post 17683095)
How about a LONE5?

CCS-MIA-SFO-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-HND/NRT-HEL-MAD-CCS

It's about 34.000 miles
4.123 USD + 921USD tax= 5.074,95 USD

Is this good or it's expensive. Cheaper would be even better. I wanted to add Moscow, but couldn't get from Japan to Moscow... without exceeding the allowed segments.

I'm based in Caracas,Venezuela. Just was testing this, first time i use this OW tool.


Originally Posted by mvtm (Post 17744959)
Hi all, can someone take a look here and comment? I need some input ^
Thanks in advance.

Unless you were to cut out North America altogether, the price is likely the best you'll be able to do. There are cheaper LONEX fares out of, say, Europe, but you'd eat up the savings by getting to Europe in the first place (then back to CCS after.)

You can indeed add Moscow and stay within the rules - just swap PEK-NRT for PEK-HND, then take JAL's nonstop flight to DME. Note that Finnair uses SVO for its Moscow flights, so if you wanted to avoid losing a segment because of the airport change in Moscow, you'd have to fly to either Madrid or London in order to "double back" to Helsinki, but you'd still have enough segments in Europe and overall - to wit:

CCS-MIA-SFO-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-DME-MAD-HEL-MAD-CCS

mvtm Jan 6, 2012 7:12 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 17745146)
Unless you were to cut out North America altogether, the price is likely the best you'll be able to do. There are cheaper LONEX fares out of, say, Europe, but you'd eat up the savings by getting to Europe in the first place (then back to CCS after.)

You can indeed add Moscow and stay within the rules - just swap PEK-NRT for PEK-HND, then take JAL's nonstop flight to DME. Note that Finnair uses SVO for its Moscow flights, so if you wanted to avoid losing a segment because of the airport change in Moscow, you'd have to fly to either Madrid or London in order to "double back" to Helsinki, but you'd still have enough segments in Europe and overall - to wit:

CCS-MIA-SFO-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-DME-MAD-HEL-MAD-CCS

Thanks,i'll take a look at it and pull it in the OW tool. How are the taxes? Are these high and can be lowered or are considered fair for the route.

NA is kept just to board A380 as is it one of the highlights of the trip. We also like to try Qantas.

Gardyloo Jan 6, 2012 7:24 am


Originally Posted by mvtm (Post 17759722)
NA is kept just to board A380 as is it one of the highlights of the trip. We also like to try Qantas.

You could fly on QF's A380 between SYD and SIN - at least one flight daily.

mvtm Jan 6, 2012 8:00 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 17759773)
You could fly on QF's A380 between SYD and SIN - at least one flight daily.

Yup, it is scheduled as that too. We want to fly both times in the A380. My father is 75 and is all over the A380. Brother who is 40 is all over it too. I'm 22.

How much would it save us, doing a LONE4, via LAN to Australia compared to the LONE5,getting to LAX for the A380? Just curiosity
Nevertheless i see unlikely my father will go to Australia in the future. So if he has the chance to fly the A380 it would be that one.

Gardyloo Jan 6, 2012 11:23 am


Originally Posted by mvtm (Post 17759984)
How much would it save us, doing a LONE4, via LAN to Australia compared to the LONE5,getting to LAX for the A380?

$500 per ticket plus any changes in taxes.

mvtm Jan 6, 2012 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 17745146)

You can indeed add Moscow and stay within the rules - just swap PEK-NRT for PEK-HND, then take JAL's nonstop flight to DME. Note that Finnair uses SVO for its Moscow flights, so if you wanted to avoid losing a segment because of the airport change in Moscow, you'd have to fly to either Madrid or London in order to "double back" to Helsinki, but you'd still have enough segments in Europe and overall - to wit:

CCS-MIA-SFO-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-DME-MAD-HEL-MAD-CCS

I changed it a bit. Thanks for your input, i didn't know JAL operated between Tokyo and Moscow. I'm looking something less aggressive now. ;)

CCS-MIA-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-DME-MAD-CCS

Will price it in a bit to see how it works, and via Chile too.

mvtm Jan 6, 2012 3:58 pm


Originally Posted by mvtm (Post 17762482)
I changed it a bit. Thanks for your input, i didn't know JAL operated between Tokyo and Moscow. I'm looking something less aggressive now. ;)

CCS-MIA-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-DME-MAD-CCS

Will price it in a bit to see how it works, and via Chile too.

I can't seem to find that NRT-DME (per Narita Airport wikipedia) JAL Flight on the OW tool, it makes me route via HKG-DME via CX. I also heard CX economy seat is one of the worst on the system and i do not get any miles on my AA FF while flying in Cathay metal. Any work around?

????
I'm lost, there's supposed to be a Japan Airlines flight from Narita to Moscow, and the tool doesn't allow me to choose it?

Gardyloo Jan 6, 2012 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by mvtm (Post 17763180)
I can't seem to find that NRT-DME (per Narita Airport wikipedia) JAL Flight on the OW tool, it makes me route via HKG-DME via CX. I also heard CX economy seat is one of the worst on the system and i do not get any miles on my AA FF while flying in Cathay metal. Any work around?

????
I'm lost, there's supposed to be a Japan Airlines flight from Narita to Moscow, and the tool doesn't allow me to choose it?

Try changing dates - it doesn't fly every day. When are you traveling?

mvtm Jan 6, 2012 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 17763190)
Try changing dates - it doesn't fly every day. When are you traveling?

I'm flying the whole December '12. I cant yet choose the dates on the OW tool. So i am using dummy dates between September-October '12, to do an approximate price check for the whole RTW. When does it fly?

EDIT: Never mind, i found NRT-DME flight is only Monday,Thursday and Saturday !! BUT Taxes are 1300.... and total is a whopping $5,400 instead of 920 USD taxes and $5000 total via HEL (Finnair), instead via DME with Japan Airlines !!! :eek::eek:

I picked diferent months though for the AY and JL scenarios. Is this usual? That much taxes for Moscow and/or JAL??

mvtm Jan 6, 2012 4:12 pm

I am currently in this:

CCS-MIA-LAX-MEL-AKL-CNS-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-HEL-MAD-CCS

But they are about 9-10 cities for 30 days... time is short. Most likely i have to delete segments in this RTW.
What would you guys do? Visit where. I can leave HEL to overnight only. But i have never been to: MEL-AKL-CNS-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT. I don't wan't to be rushing into the cities, but would like to know which of these take more time and so on.


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