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roadwarriorafrica Jan 11, 2012 12:23 pm

Circle Trip Explorer
 
How do you book a Circle Trip Explorer ticket?

I want to fly J class NBO PER BNE SYD LHR NBO.

Thanks

jerry a. laska Jan 11, 2012 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by roadwarriorafrica (Post 17794001)
How do you book a Circle Trip Explorer ticket?

I want to fly J class NBO PER BNE SYD LHR NBO.

Thanks

Rules are here:
http://www.oneworld.com/tasks/downlo...?objectID=1169
This provision will be significant:

B. Travel must be a Circle trip via the following routing:
A. AFRICA - SWP - ASIA - AFRICA vv
B. AFRICA - ASIA – EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST - AFRICA vv
C. AFRICA – EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST - ASIA - SWP - AFRICA vv

D. SWP - ASIA - AFRICA - SWP vv
E. SWP - AFRICA- EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST - ASIA - SWP vv
F. ASIA - SWP - AFRICA - ASIA vv
G. ASIA – EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST - AFRICA - ASIA vv
H. ASIA – EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST - AFRICA - SWP - ASIA vv
I. EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST - ASIA - AFRICA – EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST vv
J. EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST - AFRICA - SWP - ASIA - EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST vv
As there are no oneworld flights from NBO to SWP, except by connecting thru ME/EUR, you will either have to do your LHR stopover at the beginning (that is, NBO-LHR---and end at JNB) or begin your trip in JNB and fly to SWP from there.
Examples:
NBO-LHR-HKG-SYD-PER-BNE-SYD-JNB
JNB-SYD-PER-BNE-SYD-(SIN, BKK, HKG, or TYO)-LHR-NBO

You could buy the JNB originating circle trip through Mindpearl the AA GSA in CPT:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/where...outhAfrica.jsp

ExpatExp Jan 12, 2012 4:35 am


Originally Posted by mvtm (Post 17763262)
I am currently in this:

CCS-MIA-LAX-MEL-AKL-CNS-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-HEL-MAD-CCS

But they are about 9-10 cities for 30 days... time is short. Most likely i have to delete segments in this RTW.
What would you guys do? Visit where. I can leave HEL to overnight only. But i have never been to: MEL-AKL-CNS-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT. I don't wan't to be rushing into the cities, but would like to know which of these take more time and so on.

Hmm. I think everyone has different opinions, but I would spend more time in SYD, BKK, HKG, PEK and NRT and less time in MEL, AKL and SIN (haven't been to CNS so can't say). What kind of city do you prefer?

epmlassie Jan 16, 2012 11:16 am

Is RTW the best option?
 
I want to fly DFW-CDG-HAN-PVG-DFW over about 2 weeks in March. I'm getting fares of close to $4000 pricing the trip on sites like Vayama, Kayak, etc. I am AA Platinum, so I'd really like to fly on oneworld airlines. AA told me the cost would be $3699 + about $900 in taxes using the RTW option.

I'm new to this forum, and really tried to do my own research before posting. If anyone has any suggestions for finding better prices on this trip, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

vpk Jan 19, 2012 12:30 am

RTW ticket will not gain any miles to partners on CX flights
 
Se when you are planning your trip being FT on other airline than CX, try to avoid CX as they will not give you amy miles. I was really dissapointed as almost half of my RTW trip was on CX and FT on AA. WI would have gain over 10,000 miles more toward my next tier using some other options (AY, JL).

My first RTW was with Star Alliance and I received full miles on each carrier to my EB, so I was kind of assuming same happen to here.... so better to check before you book.

BrewerSEA Jan 19, 2012 12:37 am


Originally Posted by vpk (Post 17842624)
Se when you are planning your trip being FT on other airline than CX, try to avoid CX as they will not give you amy miles. I was really dissapointed as almost half of my RTW trip was on CX and FT on AA. WI would have gain over 10,000 miles more toward my next tier using some other options (AY, JL).

My first RTW was with Star Alliance and I received full miles on each carrier to my EB, so I was kind of assuming same happen to here.... so better to check before you book.

While this is heavily dependent on your program and routing, you can often book a codeshare to earn more/full miles. For example L on CX earns 0 miles in AAdvantage and QF earns 50%. On TPAC routes you could likely book the AA codeshare and earn 100%. In business or first this isn't usually necessary in any OW program AFAIK as D/A earn the same regardless which carrier the code is booked under.

Dr. HFH Jan 19, 2012 6:18 am


Originally Posted by BrewerSEA (Post 17842643)
In business or first this isn't usually necessary in any OW program AFAIK as D/A earn the same regardless which carrier the code is booked under.

Works that way for AAdvantage. On my AONEx trips, I earn the same as if it were on AA metal.

Gotta Requalify Jan 30, 2012 11:11 pm

So the wife says to me. Quit your job. Stay at home and look after the house, kids, cat etc. And in return, you can have one week a year where you can travel to any destination you want, by yourself in business class.

Hmmm. So I am now thinking about where to go on a oneworld RTW ticket.

I am a Qantas Platinum / OW Emerald and what I would like to do with this trip is, in order.

1) Retain Platinum Status
a) Minimum of 4 Qantas flights
2) Be away as short a time as possible.
a) minimise hotel stays. But if required, pick a city with an airport hotel, preference Hilton chain.
b) spend as much time in the air as possible
c) going to the airport counts as going to the country :p
3) Maximise my Qantas points
a) Stick to Qantas, BA or AA as much as possible because Qantas gives 100% bonus miles on these airlines
b) Make sure 6 domestic segments in US are completed as these count as first class and not business, booked as AA flight numbers and not QF codeshare.
c) Use all 16 sectors
4) Fly on Segments I have never done before and see cities, airports or countries that are new.
5) If possible on Qantas flights, pick 747's that don't sell first but still have a first cabin, as I can get a seat t

So what I have come up with is as follows. With sample dates. Please suggest changes or improvements.

MEL-SYD-JNB-LHR-ARN-HEL-ZRH-LHR-ORD-LAS-LAX-ORD-BOS-MIA-DFW-BNE-MEL

I have picked SYD-JNB as I have never been anywhere in Africa or M/E. My stops are Zurich and Boston, with a night in Las Vegas, but I am willing to swap this around. I have never been to any of these cities. I have been to Dallas far too often, so if I could avoid it once or twice it would be good.

My suggested itinerary is as follows (Dates just samples, but it is likely to be around this time due to local school holidays.)

SAT Sep 22 - MEL - SYD - QF408 - 07:00 - 08:25
SAT Sep 22 - SYD - JNB - QF63 - 10:00 - 16:15
SAT Sep 22 - JNB - LHR - BA56 - 19:20 - 05:15+1
SUN Sep 23 - LHR - ARN - BA776 - 07:40 - 11:05
SUN Sep 23 - ARN - HEL - AY682 - 12:55 - 14:55
SUN Sep 23 - HEL - ZRN - AY863 - 16:30 - 18:15

(Stop 1)

TUE Sep 25 - ZRN - LHR - BA709 - 07:00 - 07:55
TUE Sep 25 - LHR - ORD - AA87 - 10:15 - 12:55
TUE Sep 25 - ORD - LAS - AA425 - 14:30 - 16:15

Transit Night in Las Vegas, not classed as stopover

WED Sep 26 - LAS - LAX - AA1075 - 07:15 - 8:25
WED Sep 26 - LAX - ORD - AA1587 - 10:45 - 16:50
WED Sep 26 - ORD - BOS - AA154 - 17:25 - 20:40 (to tight?)

(Stop 2)

FRI Sep 28 - BOS - MIA - AA573 - 09:15 - 12:40
FRI Sep 28 - MIA - DFW - AA401 - 15:15 - 17:25
FRI Sep 28 - DFW - BNE - QF8 - 21:55 - 05:00+2
SUN Sep 30 - BNE - MEL - QF611 - 07:55 - 10:20

A Transit through JFK would be nice, (I could go ZRH-JFK-LAS) but that would then require another sector to be found. The oneworld booking tool states that this itinerary is okay. But some suggestions on improvements like pushing out some of the connections would be helpful.

Thanks,

headinclouds Feb 3, 2012 12:32 pm

First, you are only away for 8 or 9 days. Your last intercontenental flight has to be 10 days after your 1st flight. Second, from a QF status credits view point, LAS-LAX, ORD-BOS, & MIA-DFW do not maximize the QF status credits. Also, I would fly the 4 QF segments separately from the RTW since you are in Australia and those can be had for little money. Use the save segments for other longer segments. Lastly, I would drop the trip to JNB and instead use QF to SYD-HKG -CGK-NRT-SIN-LHR... for more status credits but fewer bonus miles.

Gotta Requalify Feb 4, 2012 10:16 pm

Thanks - will look into your suggested routing, but any transit in Jakarta is not high on my list of things to do. I only need 1200 SC to renew Platinum, so anything over this will be a bit of a waste. Getting maximum FF points is a higher objective. I am also going to go to Brisbane a couple of times this year, so I will get my 4 Qantas flights. But this year is the exception. Last year I only did 2 Qantas flights in total (return economy to Brisbane), but my Platinum was renewed as I got over 2100 SCs the previous year.

Here is the flying I have done to date, so you can see the gaps I am trying to fill. http://my.flightmemory.com/GottaRequalify

So you can see why I was thinking about going via JNB and Finland.

Does the 10 day rule also apply to tickets started in South West Pacific, as it doesn't for the Star Alliance RTW tickets.

stormy11 Feb 6, 2012 11:42 am

Hi,

I am planning a RTW trip out of Hong Kong, and have a few questions if the expert RTW travellers on this board could kindly help to answer:

1) I have done a fair amount of research online independently, and have a good idea of which countries I'd like to visit. However, I do not know any good travel agent in Hong Kong to help look through the itinerary (in case of any possible improvement in route etc.), and also to look into the possibility of the 2 additional sections per continent allowed under oneworld explorer rules (not available for online booking). Would anyone here know any good travel agent in HK? I spoke to someone at Flight Centre, but that person does not seem to know RTW rules etc. in much depth

2) Can you see any room for improvement for my draft itinerary below? This looks clear on oneworld's online booking tool. I plan to travel in business class, and am aware LAN's flights mostly do not have D:
HKG-NRT-SYD-DFW-ANC-DFW-LAX-MIA-MEX--UIO-LIM-SCL-BUE-LON-SIN-NRT-PEK
MEX-UIO is a surface sector, and SIN-NRT-PEK involves only transit in NRT

3) I am a CX frequent flyer, and wonder if MPC is the right programme for RTW miles accumulation? Are there any particular airlines that would not let MPC members accumulate miles?

4) And some specific aircraft / airline selection questions (understand each airline's forum would be a better place to ask, but just in case the experts here also know...)
- NRT-SYD: JAL 777 vs. Qantas 747?
- AA's domestic product seem to only have first or economy class. How would you rank the following aircraft's first class? Is there any difference, apart from MD-80 may the older aircrafts? 737-800, 757, 777, MD-80

Thanks a lot!

JALPak Feb 6, 2012 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by stormy11 (Post 17962510)
2) Can you see any room for improvement for my draft itinerary below? This looks clear on oneworld's online booking tool. I plan to travel in business class, and am aware LAN's flights mostly do not have D:
HKG-NRT-SYD-DFW-ANC-DFW-LAX-MIA-MEX--UIO-LIM-SCL-BUE-LON-SIN-NRT-PEK
MEX-UIO is a surface sector, and SIN-NRT-PEK involves only transit in NRT

Why not do SIN-HND-PEK instead? You can check out HND facilities and more importantly fly on 787 (HND-PEK is planned to switch to 787 some time in late March and both HND-SIN and NRT-SIN in Sept)

pandaperth Feb 6, 2012 5:06 pm

Welcome to FT stormy11

Originally Posted by stormy11 (Post 17962510)
...and also to look into the possibility of the 2 additional sections per continent allowed under oneworld explorer rules...

Since your itinerary is already maxed out at the allowed 16 segments, are you aware that the rule allowing additional segments in a continent does NOT allow the overall 16 segment maximum to be exceeded?

In other words if you want extra segments in a continent then you must drop segments elsewhere in your itinerary in order to keep to the 16 segment maximum.

JALPak Feb 6, 2012 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 17963480)
Why not do SIN-HND-PEK instead? You can check out HND facilities and more importantly fly on 787 (HND-PEK is planned to switch to 787 some time in late March and both HND-SIN and NRT-SIN in Sept)

OK HND-PEK may not see the 787 by end of March with the latest delay but you can still travel to HND instead to check out their new facilities

stormy11 Feb 7, 2012 6:23 am


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 17966152)
OK HND-PEK may not see the 787 by end of March with the latest delay but you can still travel to HND instead to check out their new facilities

Thanks a lot for the advice! However, neither me nor my travel agent could find a connection time that works with HND...the flight to PEK leaves before flight from SIN arrives...I'll try searching again closer to travel time to see if the flight schedule changes


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