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It's not really a flight - Such a connection indeed applies against the ticket total 16 segment limit.
It does not, however, count against the continental limit (being the Maximum of 6 NA segments in this case). |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 25041820)
The Wiki says:
Q: What about surface segments (eg arrive at LGA and depart from JFK)? Does that mean that, in this example, I would use two of my 16 segments, such that LGA-JFK essentially counts as a flight?A: These are counted towards the total of 16 segments. It is a limitation of electronic ticketing, the sectors need to be contiguous so a surface sector needs to join two unconnected airports; but there can only be at most sixteen sectors in a ticket booklet |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 25041820)
The Wiki says:
Q: What about surface segments (eg arrive at LGA and depart from JFK)? Does that mean that, in this example, I would use two of my 16 segments, such that LGA-JFK essentially counts as a flight?A: These are counted towards the total of 16 segments. |
The oneworld explorer ticket FAQs
NRT-HND connections are fine for the lower flight limit tickets (eg xASnn), but would use up a sector on an xONEx.
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is there any information about how to lower YQ from USA to Europe?
AA US Finair BA IB are in a joint venture and it isnt cheap. AB is also in 4xx. when i try to price DFW DOH MUC on QR using ITA, it gives YQ or less than 200. but YQ for DFW DOH is more |
Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 25147185)
is there any information about how to lower YQ from USA to Europe?
AA US Finair BA IB are in a joint venture and it isnt cheap. AB is also in 4xx. when i try to price DFW DOH MUC on QR using ITA, it gives YQ or less than 200. but YQ for DFW DOH is more UL might be a good bet. |
i was reading some old posts about AA ticketed DONE. it is said that aa only charges yq on its own metal, is it still true?
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Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 25173585)
i was reading some old posts about AA ticketed DONE. it is said that aa only charges yq on its own metal, is it still true?
Where AA differs on YQ is that they don't charge it for other segments operated by non-BA carriers, whereas BA does if it can. Note this is extremely difficult to document because of the cone of silence imposed by the AA (and BA) rates people. Even the AA RTW desk agents can't (and/or won't) reveal a detailed accounting of the construction of YQ/YR amounts on the ticket. They're neither published fares nor are they taxes that would require disclosure, so instead they're treated as a black box from which numbers are pulled. |
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 25174561)
In my experience AA will pass through YQ on BA metal; for example ticketing an xONEx out of South Africa, AA will add the fuel fine to an initial BA-operated segment such as CPT-LHR even if it's booked using an AA code. I assume it has to do with the AA/BA/IB joint venture agreement.
Where AA differs on YQ is that they don't charge it for other segments operated by non-BA carriers, whereas BA does if it can. Note this is extremely difficult to document because of the cone of silence imposed by the AA (and BA) rates people. Even the AA RTW desk agents can't (and/or won't) reveal a detailed accounting of the construction of YQ/YR amounts on the ticket. They're neither published fares nor are they taxes that would require disclosure, so instead they're treated as a black box from which numbers are pulled. interesting to know. i have priced my ticket online and by ita, i have sent it to cx to price, will see how they do the yq.. |
Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 25174788)
basically, the price online is the highest because it applies all YQ?
interesting to know. i have priced my ticket online and by ita, i have sent it to cx to price, will see how they do the yq.. |
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 25174561)
In my experience AA will pass through YQ on BA metal; for example ticketing an xONEx out of South Africa, AA will add the fuel fine to an initial BA-operated segment such as CPT-LHR even if it's booked using an AA code. I assume it has to do with the AA/BA/IB joint venture agreement.
Where AA differs on YQ is that they don't charge it for other segments operated by non-BA carriers, whereas BA does if it can. Note this is extremely difficult to document because of the cone of silence imposed by the AA (and BA) rates people. Even the AA RTW desk agents can't (and/or won't) reveal a detailed accounting of the construction of YQ/YR amounts on the ticket. They're neither published fares nor are they taxes that would require disclosure, so instead they're treated as a black box from which numbers are pulled. In addition, on my ex-JNB DONE4, AA was clearly collecting YQ on QR JNB-DOH, because I kept switching between BA JNB-LHR and the QR segment, and the price differences equated to the delta between BA and QR revenue YQs. The same thing shows when selecting different options between JFK-HKG and NRT, AA added its YQ on CX and JL segments. I actually think now, I am not any better off going with AA when I consider the service of the RTW desk plus the Tariffs desk. Mindpearl remains a plus for as long as they exist and are not downgraded like the rest of the AA ops since USAirways took over. |
Whilst we are on the subject of fool surcharges, does anyone know if the RTW booking engine adds all surcharges in its pricing?
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Originally Posted by TopGunner
(Post 25175024)
In addition, on my ex-JNB DONE4, AA was clearly collecting YQ on QR JNB-DOH, because I kept switching between BA JNB-LHR and the QR segment, and the price differences equated to the delta between BA and QR revenue YQs. The same thing shows when selecting different options between JFK-HKG and NRT, AA added its YQ on CX and JL segments.
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 25175471)
I'm not doubting you but am curious how you managed to get a detailed accounting of which segments AA was adding YQ to, and how much. Transparency is not one of Oneworld's strong suits.
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Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 25174858)
How did you price on ITA? I did not think it could support RTW fares.
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