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Dr. HFH Sep 23, 2015 8:01 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 25466867)
There are many AA flights like this as well inside the USA, and some of them include a change of equipment! But if there's one flight number there's only one flight.

However, even with a change of equipment, if there's one flight number, it normally only shows as one flight segment on AA.

Kiwi Flyer Sep 24, 2015 1:50 am

Yes there are many direct flights. Three of the longest ones are SYD-LHR via DXB, MEL-LHR via DXB and SYD-JFK via LAX.

Himeno Sep 24, 2015 5:00 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 25466926)
However, even with a change of equipment, if there's one flight number, it normally only shows as one flight segment on AA.

I have AA64 booked for early Nov. MIA-ZRH (via JFK). It's showing up in AA MMB as 2 sectors. It has a narrow body > wide body 3 hour stop in JFK.

Dr. HFH Sep 24, 2015 9:34 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 25471141)
I have AA64 booked for early Nov. MIA-ZRH (via JFK). It's showing up in AA MMB as 2 sectors. It has a narrow body > wide body 3 hour stop in JFK.

Interesting. Wonder if it's the same on domestic flights.

skunker Sep 24, 2015 10:19 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 25471141)
I have AA64 booked for early Nov. MIA-ZRH (via JFK). It's showing up in AA MMB as 2 sectors. It has a narrow body > wide body 3 hour stop in JFK.

It will show was two "segments" but is one flight and should be treated as such for a xONEx and mileage earning.

AA added a lot of these when they merged with US.

Other good ones:
AA36/37 SFO-DFW-MAD
AA94/95 SAN-JFK-MAD
AA60/61 MIA-DFW-NRT
AA66/67 LAX-MIA-MAD
AA70/71 LAS-DFW-FRA
AA137/138 DCA-DFW-HKG
AA175/176 DCA-DFW-NRT

stex Sep 24, 2015 3:48 pm

I have a quick question about North America routing rules/conditions for my current DONE3 ex-Japan. I have already flown the following segments (I am currently in New York City): NRT-xORD-JFK

I am planning changes to the remaining (original) routing made at the time of purchase. I wonder if the following North American segments would be allowed:

NRT-xORD-JFK-LAX-xORD-BOS-JFK-MIA-DOH ... etc TBD

I would like to know whether I can have the second stopover in New York City. I avoided the USA transcontinental direct flight rule by using ORD as my connection.

I realize this North American routing is not maximizing mileage accrual, but before I consider that more fully, I need to make sure I can have a second stopover in JFK or LGA, as that is a necessary stop I need to make.

Thanks in advance for you help!

zoombee Sep 24, 2015 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 25466926)
However, even with a change of equipment, if there's one flight number, it normally only shows as one flight segment on AA.

That's the bit I also was surprised to hear. Especially if it's consistently the case.

zoombee Sep 24, 2015 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by stex (Post 25474169)
I am planning changes to the remaining (original) routing made at the time of purchase. I wonder if the following North American segments would be allowed:

NRT-xORD-JFK-LAX-xORD-BOS-JFK-MIA-DOH ... etc TBD

I would like to know whether I can have the second stopover in New York City. I avoided the USA transcontinental direct flight rule by using ORD as my connection.!

Looks good to me. You can revisit a city no problem.

stex Sep 24, 2015 6:20 pm

Thanks for the clarification zoombee!

Dr. HFH Sep 25, 2015 6:05 am


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 25474715)
That's the bit I also was surprised to hear. Especially if it's consistently the case.

I can only report my own experience, which, admittedly, was a bit more than 12 months ago. May have changed.

mattjp Sep 25, 2015 11:50 am

Back with one more question: if I book a flight segment, and then later want to change that to a surface segment (with same cities), will I incur a $125 charge? The rule sheet does not seem to address this situation.

Gardyloo Sep 25, 2015 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by mattjp (Post 25477894)
Back with one more question: if I book a flight segment, and then later want to change that to a surface segment (with same cities), will I incur a $125 charge? The rule sheet does not seem to address this situation.

Yes.

skunker Sep 25, 2015 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 25476384)
I can only report my own experience, which, admittedly, was a bit more than 12 months ago. May have changed.

It's still the case. Try the routes I posted using the online tool. Put MIA-NRT in and AA 61 is an option.

Kiwi Flyer Sep 25, 2015 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by stex (Post 25474169)
I am planning changes to the remaining (original) routing made at the time of purchase. I wonder if the following North American segments would be allowed:

NRT-xORD-JFK-LAX-xORD-BOS-JFK-MIA-DOH ... etc TBD

I would like to know whether I can have the second stopover in New York City.

Yes. xONEx permits more than one stopover in the same city/airport (unlike xRWSTARx the star alliance around the world product).

xONEx does not allow the same route to be flown more than once in the same direction - you're fine for this too.

mattjp Sep 25, 2015 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 25478073)
Yes.

What if instead of changing the flight segment to a surface segment, I simply missed (didn't fly) that segment? I see a few old threads indicating that this won't affect future segments, but no recent posts.


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