Good spot. Probably the fare cancellation message was never sent by AB after it closed its doors.

Yes, but the question was, will QR plate a ticket that includes TLV, not will they land a plane there.

Matrix shows QR-published fares (as I posted just above). You're a TA, aren't you? You could try auto-pricing an itinerary on QR. I'd be surprised if didn't ticket or if someone bought it and QR had the slightest problem.

Just an enthusiast. :)

Thanks all for the follow up messages. Ultimately I wound up just returning to CAI because it fit better with my schedule and managed to pick up a decent J fare back to the US from there.

The anecdotal evidence (QR-issued BPs seen) as well as the GDS affirmation that itineraries involving TLV and QR-stock will auto price are helpful. I was able to confirm with QR no issue with TLV being on QR-issued tickets.

As an aside, I have long considered myself quite knowledgeable on ticketing, routing and fare rules... dealing with a now-defunct ex-CAI RTW and trying to make various changes across airlines and routings have significantly added to my knowledge base. I've had to go up against some less-than-helpful/incorrect airline agents (and these are the agents manning the trade support lines, not general public).

I'm sort of thinking about booking an RTW starting in south america (getting there on points). My first leg would be to the USA (home), then a few legs inside the USA before going to Europe, then HKG, then back to south america. The last leg is CX HKG-LAX-EZE.

Now to the question - I know on regular tickets folks sometimes 'miss the last leg' for hidden city pricing on regular tickets. Is it the same with the last leg of an RTW? Basically if I got off in LAX and took a non-oneworld ticket to my home would it be likely to run into problems for not completing an RTW itinerary?

No, not likely (unless you did it frequently). But given that you have a year from first flight to last, another option would be to book it as an extended stop in LAX, with LAX-EZE many months out. Then you can use it the outbound of a different trip to EZE (or somewhere else), with miles or a cheap ticket back.

Thanks. Unfortunately my first leg (beginning of 2020) is going to be EZE-USA, so I don't think I can book a second stopover in LAX at the end of 2020. The system on a dummy booking seemed to be okay with it as a connection city though.

You are permitted two international arrivals and departures in North America, without regard to stopovers versus connections.

There used to be additional restrictions on this, but not in the current version of the rules.

There is a restriction for travel originating in the U.S., but that doesn't apply to your itinerary.

It's extremely unlikely; and I've never heard of any airline doing this on a RTW ticket. I'd put the chances at less than one in a million. However, it will be extremely costly if they do. They have the legal right to recalculate your fare as the sum of the fares for one way flights for everything you flew. All that said, I'm doing exactly this in a few weeks, -- not showing for the last leg of an AONE3.

Remember, one of the things you can do is to schedule that last leg really far out into the future. Who knows, -- maybe you'll have occasion to use it at some point before the ticket expires. You'll be able to change the date, time, airline and flight number of that last leg without charge any time before you fly it (assuming, of course, that the inventory is available). I'm not doing that this time because no changes are permitted on my ticket.

As I wrote, this is not likely. However, in the unlikely event an airline did go after someone for no-showing on the last leg, The appropriate penalty would be the no-show fee of $125. (Recalculating the fare as the sum of the fares for the flown segments is the process for a cancellation and refund of a partially flown itinerary.)

As I wrote, this would be my advice, especially if the poster could enjoy another trip to EZE or elsewhere.

Maybe. If your ticket still ends in the continent of origin, you have satisfied the rules for eligibility for the fare, and there should be no penalty. However, if your last flight is intercontinental, it's possible that you did not fulfill the fare's requirements, and, based on what you actually flew, may have been ineligible for the fare to start with. In that case, it seems to me that since you're not eligible for the xONEx fare, what's the alternative?

This is a refund after departure.
(Resolution 737)

No suggestion that the passenger can somehow be liable to pay for not using a flight coupon, i.e., that an open flight coupon could have a negative monetary value.

(It's also not clear to me that a sum of one way fares will always be a valid way of calculating a cost of an itinerary. Several carriers no longer allow their fares to be used end-on-end in an unrestricted way.)

But isn't that exactly what this says? Not that unused coupons have a negative flight value, but that you calculate what the fare would have been for the flight coupons used. Even looking at the cheapest possible fare, it's still going to be more than an xONEx fare.


I don't understand, -- would you explain a bit, please?

Yes, but the way I read it is 'refund wil be made, if any'. It does not say 'additional charge will be made', does it.

I also think this discussion is a bit academic as the are no reports here on FT (or elsewhere AFAIK) of anyone ever been charged by an airline for an unused xONEx segment. I myself have dropped the last flight many times and never had any issue with it.

Well, yes, but this from the OWE rules:"... difference between the fare paid and the fare for the transportation used ..." - seems to me that that is subject to two interpretations. If the fare for the transportation used is less than the fare paid, then the difference will be refunded (less any fees). If the fare for the transportation used exceeds the fare paid, then there would (could?) be a negative refund, -- an additional collection.

Now, before anyone jumps down my throat about being overly legalistic, two points:

1. Yes, it's a legalistic argument. But when we get into Ts & Cs, we're talking legalities anyway, so we need to consider them.
2. To my knowledge, no airline has ever tried to make an additional collection on one of these tickets.

If anyone has been in this situation where the fare used was less than the fare paid, I'd love to hear how it was handled. Was there a refund? Did you request it? Did you just no-show the remaining segments? Please let us know!