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Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 30958663)
I just double checked and it is an AA codeshare. Any other ideas? I thought this ticket should be around $6800, so just trying to figure out how it is almost $1000 more and what changes I can make.
Originally Posted by JAXBA
(Post 30959998)
SYD QF LON AA JNB is invalid. AA do not have the rights/freedoms to sell LHR-JNB without an incoming TATL AA coded flight. The AA codeshares on BA flights that don’t touch N. America are restricted to “online connecting/stopover traffic only.”
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 30960341)
Carrier imposed fees (not broken down) are $455..
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Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 30960486)
OPTION 1. Via LHR (assuming you are stopping over in London):
The +++ for NBO-LHR are: OPTION 2. Via DOH (assuming you would transit Doha):
the +++ for NBO-xDOH-OSL are:
Notes:
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Originally Posted by JAXBA
(Post 30959998)
The AA codeshares on BA flights that don’t touch N. America are restricted to “online connecting/stopover traffic only.”
Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 30961403)
Well, it was ticketed by an agency that usually is on top of the codeshare rules. It was auto-priced and ticketed. Not sure what the implications are for being on an invalid ticket
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 30961827)
By the way, I realized the RTW that I am currently flying has several invalid codeshares. Three domestic AA flights are ticketed as codeshares (on JL, BA, and QF) that do not involve connecting to or from international flights on the marketing carrier. This was ticketed by QR, and the codeshares were added when I changed dates on the phone with them.
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Originally Posted by JAXBA
(Post 30959998)
SYD QF LON AA JNB is invalid. AA do not have the rights/freedoms to sell LHR-JNB without an incoming TATL AA coded flight. The AA codeshares on BA flights that don’t touch N. America are restricted to “online connecting/stopover traffic only.”
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 30975529)
These kinds of flights can sometimes be booked using long sell or by booking it in conjunction with another flight and then subsequently cancel the other flight (married segment violation if the airline has such policy). True, they are not supposed to be booked this way, but once booked, they can be ticketed just fine.
Yes, they can be booked and ticketed, but there are situations where they shouldn't be, and I don't know what consequences there might be, if any. |
Flights to Cuba not included in Explorer plan?
Hi all :)
Trying to plan our OW Explorer RTW tickets. It seems Cuba is excluded from the planner, impossible to include, although there ARE regular flights of the alliance members to & from Havana etc... So, Is cuba really out of the destination possiblities of OW Explorer, and simply forget about it? Could not find an answer anywhere else. Thank you! |
Cuba is a unique situation. You cannot fly there from the US, regardless of which passport you use, unless you travel for very specific reasons. I believe it is mostly "for education or for investment" purposes. Check the US site travel.state.gov for more info.
Try going to Cuba by way of Canada or Mexico as they have much lighter regulations. I am honestly not sure if it can be done as part of a RTW. Otherwise make a stop in either Mexico or Canada, and do a separate round-trip to to Cuba on another ticket. |
Thanks for your quick reply :)
I know about these restrictions, but even trying to "bypass" as you've suggested the US is impossible. OW Explorer online planner simply does not include any of Cuba's airports as an option at all... So it does seem that Cuba is out of Explorer RTW option, thought I couldn't find a clear answer anywhere. Thanks again! |
Originally Posted by LCSinTexas
(Post 30980804)
Cuba is a unique situation. You cannot fly there from the US, regardless of which passport you use, unless you travel for very specific reasons. I believe it is mostly "for education or for investment" purposes. Check the US site travel.state.gov for more info.
Try going to Cuba by way of Canada or Mexico as they have much lighter regulations. I am honestly not sure if it can be done as part of a RTW. Otherwise make a stop in either Mexico or Canada, and do a separate round-trip to to Cuba on another ticket. Seems that Cuba is indeed excluded as a destination of OW Explorer program. When you use the online planning & booking tool of the program, it is simply unavailable as an option... Still looking for clear info regarding, which I couldn't find anywhere yet. Thanks again! |
The flight is not available in the planner because a specific provision of the RTW rules prohibits it.The rule, however, predates AA's introduction of flights to Cuba, so not sure if this is a case of an outdated rule not being changed or if it is still in force.
As you point out there are numerous flights from the US to various Cuban cities on AA and it is not all that difficult to comply with all requirements. The best way to find out for sure would be to call the AA RTW desk. Given proximity, it may be a more effective use of your 16 segments to simply book a separate ticket from Miami, which will also avoid the RTW restriction (if any). |
Originally Posted by yehu
(Post 30980772)
Hi all :)
Trying to plan our OW Explorer RTW tickets. It seems Cuba is excluded from the planner, impossible to include, although there ARE regular flights of the alliance members to & from Havana etc... So, Is Cuba really out of the destination possibilities of OW Explorer, and simply forget about it? Could not find an answer anywhere else. Thank you! My guess of what the situation is:
My thinking is:
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Originally Posted by JAXBA
(Post 30978242)
Some, like AA's code on LHR-JNB will appear, and can be sold from availability without needing to long sell. The flight doesn't need a connection from AA; stopovers are valid too, as long as the pax arrives into Europe on an AA coded flight. Yes, they can be booked and ticketed, but there are situations where they shouldn't be, and I don't know what consequences there might be, if any. |
Originally Posted by JAXBA
(Post 30978242)
Some, like AA's code on LHR-JNB will appear, and can be sold from availability without needing to long sell. The flight doesn't need a connection from AA; stopovers are valid too, as long as the pax arrives into Europe on an AA coded flight. Yes, they can be booked and ticketed, but there are situations where they shouldn't be, and I don't know what consequences there might be, if any. |
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