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andreiz Feb 26, 2019 8:16 pm
Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 30825568)
I think the rules dictates the 1 stopover (max) at the beginning & 1 on the return (also max). OP has 2 stop-overs.

-LHR-xSIN-xHKG-NRT is valid.
Rule 8 NOTE just says:
1. Minimum 2 stopovers required
2. Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin
Nothing about 1 before leaving the continent and 1 when coming back.

anabolism Feb 26, 2019 10:01 pm
Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 30825568)
I think the rules dictates the 1 stopover (max) at the beginning & 1 on the return (also max).
As I recall, the rules did use to have such a restriction, but it was removed a few years ago. Now both stopovers can be in the same direction.

serfty Feb 26, 2019 11:48 pm
Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30826053)
As I recall, the rules did use to have such a restriction, but it was removed a few years ago. Now both stopovers can be in the same direction.
This is indeed correct. They have changed as posted.

allset2travel Feb 27, 2019 5:31 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 30825795)
Rule 8 NOTE just says:


Nothing about 1 before leaving the continent and 1 when coming back.
My bad!
I was still living with the OLD rules. The new rules have eliminated the restriction. I like the new rule better, being able to exercise how to use my 2 stops.

Calchas Feb 28, 2019 1:55 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 30825348)
the APD luxury tax applies for the entire LHR-HEL-SIN distance, rather than just LHR-HEL. Of course, the RTW desk agent was clueless about this and kept claiming that the APD is a flat tax, regardless of the distance.
There are two bands, which are loosely based on distance from the UK. Finland is in Band A (£26) whereas Singapore is in Band B (£156 before 1 April, £172 after 1 April).

Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 30825348)
The other thing that the rate desk noted is "Russian taxes". Matrix ITA tells me that the taxes on DME-LHR segment are just $19. Am I missing something?
According to my slightly ageing IATA handbook, there are three Russian taxes: a sales tax (RU), a security charge (UH), and a terminal use charge (RI).

petez Mar 5, 2019 3:26 pm
Valid Routing ?
 
Hi

Quick question - do the rules permit LHR-JFK-LAX-DOH-HKG-SYD-PER-LHR

I think the answer is no but can't find anything that says no !! (The OW site says no)

Thanks

anabolism Mar 5, 2019 3:34 pm
Originally Posted by petez (Post 30852152)
do the rules permit LHR-JFK-LAX-DOH-HKG-SYD-PER-LHR
I don't think so, because you'd be backtracking across the Atlantic, re-entering Europe/Middle East after touching North America. There are some exceptions that allow you to re-enter a continent, such as hitting North America twice if once is to or from South America, or hitting Asia twice if once is for travel between Europe and Australia/Pacific.

petez Mar 5, 2019 3:44 pm
Sorry - my error - I had assumed LAX-DOH flew westwards !!!

anabolism Mar 5, 2019 4:25 pm
Originally Posted by petez (Post 30852207)
Sorry - my error - I had assumed LAX-DOH flew westwards !!!
You can see the route at gcmap, but I suspect the route makes less difference than the re-entering a continent does.

anabolism Mar 5, 2019 4:37 pm
Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30852333)
You can see the route at gcmap
You can also see the route on Google Maps that shows ocean names (but is less accurate as far as the actual flight path).

serfty Mar 5, 2019 8:07 pm
Originally Posted by petez (Post 30852152)
Hi

Quick question - do the rules permit LHR-JFK-LAX-DOH-HKG-SYD-PER-LHR

I think the answer is no but can't find anything that says no !! (The OW site says no)

Thanks
You have:

LHR- JFK- LAX- DOH- HKG- SYD- PER- LHR
TC2->TC1->TC1->TC2->TC3->TC3->TC3->TC2

https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...rer_1Sep18.pdf
4. FLIGHT APPLICATION / ROUTINGS
Fares only apply on any AA/AY/BA/CX/IB/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/S7/UL/XL/4M flights.
(a) Travel must be via the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and only one crossing of each ocean is permitted.
(b) Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 - TC2 - TC3.
...
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and
Europe/Middle East.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
...
So, no ...

andreiz Mar 17, 2019 11:01 pm
Is there a good summary somewhere of the advantages/disadvantages of starting an itinerary in a particular region/subregion? For example, starting in Japan limits the amount of miles you can earn since you can't stopover in the country of origin (Japan is convenient for long segments within Asia). Or starting in Middle East may limit your stopovers due to routing rules, etc.

ajnaro Mar 18, 2019 9:11 am
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 30899280)

... you can't stopover in the country of origin (Japan is convenient for long segments within Asia)...
It's a little worse than that --- you can't even return, with or without a stopover, to the origin.

anabolism Mar 18, 2019 3:40 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz (Post 30899280)
Is there a good summary somewhere of the advantages/disadvantages of starting an itinerary in a particular region/subregion? For example, starting in Japan limits the amount of miles you can earn since you can't stopover in the country of origin (Japan is convenient for long segments within Asia). Or starting in Middle East may limit your stopovers due to routing rules, etc.
Sorry, I am confused. What does being unable to stopover in Japan have to do with how many miles you can fly/earn? What routing rules restrict stopovers when starting in Middle East?

Originally Posted by ajnaro (Post 30900879)
It's a little worse than that --- you can't even return, with or without a stopover, to the origin.
Of course you can return to your country of origin, that's the normal way to end an RTW. You just can't continue once you do. Or perhaps this is what you meant?

andreiz Mar 18, 2019 8:08 pm
Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30902531)
Sorry, I am confused. What does being unable to stopover in Japan have to do with how many miles you can fly/earn?
For example, this post from [MENTION=183896]pbd456[/MENTION].


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