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SDandi Apr 1, 2019 9:40 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 30951405)
You're welcome :)




Yet another bug in the online booking tool. You cannot enter ZNZ either.


Replacing OSL-HEL-LAX with OSL-DOH-LAX will not change the segment count.

Got it! Will book JRO

When I put OSL-DOH in the booking tool, there are no direct flights, but I do see the direct flight with a quick google flights search, so I will see if I can snag it. By starting out via DOH, will I still be able to use the DOH stop I have set for the end of the trip (MLE-DOH-NBO-LHR-OSL)?

henry999 Apr 1, 2019 10:04 am


Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30952647)
When I put OSL-DOH in the booking tool, there are no direct flights, but I do see the direct flight with a quick google flights search, so I will see if I can snag it.

The tool will not let you start any xONEx with a QR flight. However, TAs or RTW agents can book such itineraries.

pandaperth Apr 1, 2019 11:12 am


Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30952647)
By starting out via DOH, will I still be able to use the DOH stop I have set for the end of the trip (MLE-DOH-NBO-LHR-OSL)?

Yes.
In general there are no restrictions on how many times you can stopover/transit at any point (I stopped over in PER 3 times on one DONE4).
However remember that in your continent of origin you are restricted to two stopovers


Originally Posted by henry999 (Post 30952732)
The tool will not let you start any xONEx with a QR flight. However, TAs or RTW agents can book such itineraries.

Correct. I had forgotten that.

SDandi Apr 2, 2019 8:33 am

Hi experts! Thanks to all your help, I was able to put my ticket through with not issues yesterday. However, the pricing is a bit higher than what I expected, so hoping you can help me figure out why and how to reduce it a bit. It priced out to $7751.50 usd/ticket. Here's what I have:

OSL- xHEL-LAX-JFK-DFW-LAX-PVR-LAX-HKG-(DPS-SIN surface sector)-CMB-MLE-DOH-NBO-LHR-OSL
[MENTION=165293]pandaperth[/MENTION]- I loved the idea of xDOH and JRO (as opposed to NBO), but couldn't make them work for itinerary.

Thank you!

henry999 Apr 2, 2019 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30956294)
Here's what I have:

OSL- xHEL-LAX-JFK-DFW-LAX-PVR-LAX-HKG-(DPS-SIN surface sector)-CMB-MLE-DOH-NBO-LHR-OSL

Is NBO-LHR on BA? That might be a big YQ. How about something like this:

OSL- DOH-LAX-JFK-DFW-LAX-PVR-DFW-HKG-DPS//SIN-CMB-MLE-DOH-NBO-DOH-OSL

You don't say what FFP you're in but this is more miles so it should be more points. As long as the DFW-HKG is on AA, they should be happy to book it.

SDandi Apr 2, 2019 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by henry999 (Post 30957399)
Is NBO-LHR on BA? That might be a big YQ. How about something like this:

OSL- DOH-LAX-JFK-DFW-LAX-PVR-DFW-HKG-DPS//SIN-CMB-MLE-DOH-NBO-DOH-OSL

You don't say what FFP you're in but this is more miles so it should be more points. As long as the DFW-HKG is on AA, they should be happy to book it.

NBO-LHR is on BA? Do you think that one leg is racking up that much of a YQ? I guess not that it would surprise me that much.

New route looks good to me and agreed- much better mileage.

I was going to use my AA FFP for this one. The HKG portion is from LAX (LAX-HKG) and it on Cathay and they are fine with booking it...so far.

Thanks for all the great help!

anabolism Apr 2, 2019 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30958256)
NBO-LHR is on BA? Do you think that one leg is racking up that much of a YQ? I guess not that it would surprise me that much.

If you want to fly LHR to Africa on BA metal, you might try booking it as an AA codeshare. I had an RTW that had LHR-JNB and it was a huge amount more on BA than on AA.

Dr. HFH Apr 2, 2019 7:48 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30958347)
If you want to fly LHR to Africa on BA metal, you might try booking it as an AA codeshare. I had an RTW that had LHR-JNB and it was a huge amount more on BA than on AA.

I haven't done this recently, but I do remember that years ago you could only use AA codeshares on LHR/Africa if you were connecting to or from an AA metal TATL flight.

anabolism Apr 2, 2019 7:55 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30958624)
I haven't done this recently, but I do remember that years ago you could only use AA codeshares on LHR/Africa if you were connecting to or from an AA metal TATL flight.

My ticket has me flying QF SYD-LHR, then the AA code LHR-JNB. It was ticketed by an agency, not AA, so it's possible the AA desk would have a problem, but my recollection is that there is a restriction on using other airline codes on AA domestic flights (that they can only be booked as a connection to or from an international flight on that airline) but not on international flights.

SDandi Apr 2, 2019 8:00 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30958347)
If you want to fly LHR to Africa on BA metal, you might try booking it as an AA codeshare. I had an RTW that had LHR-JNB and it was a huge amount more on BA than on AA.

I just double checked and it is an AA codeshare. Any other ideas? I thought this ticket should be around $6800, so just trying to figure out how it is almost $1000 more and what changes I can make.

Thanks all!

R2 Apr 2, 2019 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30958663)
I just double checked and it is an AA codeshare. Any other ideas? I thought this ticket should be around $6800, so just trying to figure out how it is almost $1000 more and what changes I can make.

Thanks all!

Can you get the breakdown of surcharges? It's unbelievable how big a difference the flight code can make. As part of xONEx I had LHR-HEL, it was BA code on AY metal. I asked it to be changed to AY code so I could get more points in my AY FFP. The additional(!) surcharge would have been GBP154 to change the code. Just to be clear, this would have been the additional surcharge for the segment, not including change fee nor admin fee.

If you can see the detailed taxes and surcharges breakdown, you may be able ask if any of the high ones can be reduced by changing flight code / metal.

pandaperth Apr 3, 2019 2:12 am


Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30958663)
I thought this ticket should be around $6800, so just trying to figure out how it is almost $1000 more and what changes I can make.

The base fare for an ex-Norway DONE4 is NOK57,959 (~USD6,770).
On a 15 flight itinerary, one would expect to be paying about USD1,000 for the +++ (the various taxes, fees and (sur)charges).

Using The Matrix, the +++ for a couple of your flights are:
USD238 for OSL-xHEL-LAX on AY
USD265 for NBO-LHR on BA
(which implies the +++ for the other 12 flights on your itinerary are "only" ~USD500 - a bargain ;))

JAXBA Apr 3, 2019 6:59 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30958624)
I haven't done this recently, but I do remember that years ago you could only use AA codeshares on LHR/Africa if you were connecting to or from an AA metal TATL flight.

Connecting or continuing after stopover from an AA coded TATL flight, correct.


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30958647)
My ticket has me flying QF SYD-LHR, then the AA code LHR-JNB. It was ticketed by an agency, not AA, so it's possible the AA desk would have a problem, but my recollection is that there is a restriction on using other airline codes on AA domestic flights (that they can only be booked as a connection to or from an international flight on that airline) but not on international flights.

SYD QF LON AA JNB is invalid. AA do not have the rights/freedoms to sell LHR-JNB without an incoming TATL AA coded flight. The AA codeshares on BA flights that don’t touch N. America are restricted to “online connecting/stopover traffic only.”

SDandi Apr 3, 2019 8:58 am


Can you get the breakdown of surcharges? It's unbelievable how big a difference the flight code can make. As part of xONEx I had LHR-HEL, it was BA code on AY metal. I asked it to be changed to AY code so I could get more points in my AY FFP. The additional(!) surcharge would have been GBP154 to change the code. Just to be clear, this would have been the additional surcharge for the segment, not including change fee nor admin fee.

If you can see the detailed taxes and surcharges breakdown, you may be able ask if any of the high ones can be reduced by changing flight code / meta
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Carrier imposed fees (not broken down) are $455. The rest are fees like "Hong Kong Airport construction" and U.S. transportation tax ($75.00!!!!). Im happy to copy and paste here, but be warned: it's lengthy.


The base fare for an ex-Norway DONE4 is NOK57,959 (~USD6,770).
On a 15 flight itinerary, one would expect to be paying about USD1,000 for the +++ (the various taxes, fees and (sur)charges).

Using The Matrix, the +++ for a couple of your flights are:
USD238 for OSL-xHEL-LAX on AY
USD265 for NBO-LHR on BA
(which implies the +++ for the other 12 flights on your itinerary are "only" ~USD500 - a bargain https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Such a bargain! Thank you for checking- I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. The NBO-LHR is AA codeshare. Do you think I could drop it down more if I did NBO-DOH? Total carrier imposed fees are $455 right now.

pandaperth Apr 3, 2019 9:40 am


Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30960341)
The NBO-LHR is AA codeshare. Do you think I could drop it down more if I did NBO-DOH? Total carrier imposed fees are $455 right now.

OPTION 1. Via LHR (assuming you are stopping over in London):
The +++ for NBO-LHR are:
  • USD50 Kenya Passenger Airport Service Charge International (TU)
  • USD215 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ)
And for LHR-OSL are:
  • USD26.70 United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge Departures (UB)
  • USD34 United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty APD (GB)
TOTAL USD325.70
OPTION 2. Via DOH (assuming you would transit Doha):

the +++ for NBO-xDOH-OSL are:
  • USD50 Kenya Passenger Airport Service Charge International (TU)
  • USD222 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ) :eek:
  • USD8 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YR)
  • USD9.60 Qatar Passenger Facility Charge Pfc (G4)
  • USD0.50 Qatar Passenger Service Charge Arrivals (PZ)
TOTAL USD290.10
So, a small saving by routing via DOH, but you miss out on London

Notes:
  • All this information is gained by plugging your flights into The Matrix
  • You said that CX is ticketing this. CX might, or might not, collect the Carrier Imposed Surcharges for each and every carrier on the itinerary


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