The wording is

Although the fare rules do not explicitly say so, I am not persuaded that you can have two points in the US and qualify under that rule.

it seems i have 2 transfers without a stopover...

may worth a try but i will have back up routing..

I have done similar before without it being a problem. However this was a few years ago.

More AONE4 questions (see post #1902)
 

Hi.

It's been a couple of years since my last RTW so I'm a little out of practice. Below is my proposed AONE4 starting this August. I'm a Qantas FF (Platinum).

HND-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-MCT-LHR-oSFO-ORD-oLAS-ORD-oLAX-MIA-oJFK-oHKG-GCK-NRT

I'm doing this trip to maximise the miles on an AONE4...

My actual destinations are SFO, LAX, JFK, HKG.

At the end of the journey I'll be breaking the trip for a couple of months in HKG to return back to Oz. CX are starting 1x daily 77W flights HKG-CGK with F in late October. I realise that JL are withdrawing F from GCK to NRT soon, so that'll have to be in J but this is the best that I can do for the intra-asia part.

My other question is in regard to the intra-US segments. I need to have as many of them as possible >1500 miles and obviously one trans-con as well. (Although the trans-con will only earn 75 SC from 1st May this year :confused:) I picked the LAX-MIA segment as it has a 3-class service once a day (AA68) so I assumed that I'd get the First SCs. But then I read this in the QFF T&C

"# Effective for travel on or from 11 January 2017, American Airlines will only allow flight bookings in A, F and P classes within the US for flights between New York and San Francisco and between New York and Los Angeles when these routes are operated by a three-cabin aircraft to earn at First Frequent Flyer Earn Category."

Would I be better of just flying LAX-JFK? If so where would the 'spare' segment be most beneficial? Would I be better flying from LAX to JFK via DFW and scrapping the whole trans-con, given that its only going to get me 75 SC anyway?

Thoughts?

Thx in advance,

Medicus

PS: Mods please feel free to move to a more appropriate thread/forum if you like.

I can't offer much advice, medicus, except on two minor points.

First, the change to QF earning on AA flights is due to the US DOT not being happy about the AA/QF joint venture. If the DOT changes its mind I would expect the earn rates to go back to where they are today.

Second, with respect to the LAX-MIA, as you noted, a handful of flights are operated by a three class aircraft in which case you should earn at the First rate. The change to earnings on 11 January reflects 99% of AA domestic flights where only two cabins - First and Economy - are offered. This is the reason for the lower earning. The Qantas website contains a myriad of caveats and exclusions and you've encountered one. However, I'm confident that this is simply an oversight on QF who simply hasn't been able to keep up with all their footnotes. It's a three class flight so you should earn at the F rate. Nonetheless, I would still get it in writing from QF by emailing them. Be sure to explain it's a three class flight in the event you get someone in Manila (apparently QF's call centre is being outsourced so who knows who might receive your email).

Assuming that your schedule permits, of course, SFO-ORD-SJU-DFW-SEA-LAX-JFK for your internal U.S. flights should add around 1,100 miles. That's from just a quick look; there may still be a better way.

I think the reason for the reduced earning to QF's FFP might be because of AA's changes to the coding of two-class First Class to be business class fares codes - see this thread - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...12-2016-a.html

I do not think it is due to any DOT issues (in that regard AA and QF have reduced the number of codeshare flights each has on the other's metal, but AFAIK it has not affected FF earning)

Yes. My mistake. I've confused two separate issues.

Actually, medicus refers to the earn rate changing on 1 May. Those are the changes resulting from the JV going sour. I think maybe I was correct. The QF calculator does show a paltry 75 SCs for transcon F from 1 May when on the AA code. This is the flight that medicus refers to and is three class.

Thanks to all.

I think that I'll stick to the original routing. Changing the intra-US segments doesn't really help with the mileage because of the crazy QFF earning scheme. (I fail to see how flying from ORD-LAS should generate less SC than flying trans-con, but there you go!) I'll try to email Qantas with the query about what I will earn on 3 class LAX-MIA and see what (if anything) they say.

Hopefully it will all work out in the end. I plan on booking this weekend via the AA RTW desk. Reading the forums it seems the safest bet.

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I've been looking and can't find discussion on which airlines will ticket what. Can anyone give me any pointers for where to look?

My situation: I have an AA issued DONE4 which I want to reticket with none of my intercontinental flights on AA metal (my preferred route has HEL-LHR-JFK on AY/BA which I want AY marketed, and JAL metal for the flight out to asia). Only long haul AA flight is JFK-LAX. Will the AA rtw desk be happy to (re)ticket that? Anyone have any experience or pointers on getting AY or JAL to ticket?

If I understand correctly, your ticket was originally issued by AA and is, presumably, on 001 ticket stock. In this case AA should reticket with no problem.

tnx - fingers crossed. Next issue is adjust my (ex JNB) routing as I thought the backtrack through Europe which was a transfer without stopover could be SIN-HELx-LHRx-NBO. I guess I go SIN-LHR-NBO and suck up the BA YQ.

SIN-xDOH-NBO is also an option