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pandaperth Dec 27, 2016 4:37 am

Why is this topic being discussed in a thread entitled "Oneworld Explorer FAQs"?


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27664157)
last week, AS made a significant improvement on J fare and F fare with extra 100% bonus on J fare for CX, Ba, la, qa and jl. and 200% for F fare. (including d and a class respectively.) given that as 75k gets an extra 50k bonus miles. the return for flying d fare is 450% to 650% miles flown (ba d fare earns more).

comparing to aa exec plat which earns 245% on most partners. anyone planning to switch?


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 27664772)
just a note: BA D fares earn 350% on AS, not 650. Nothing earns 650, in fact. The highest you can get is with 75k status on a full F fare on eg BA:

100% base
125% MVP75k
200% COS
200% new additional bonus

= 625%.

A earns 450% without status, D earns 350% without status


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27665843)
for ba d 75k mvp
base 100
cos 150
bonus 100
75k. elite 125
75k bonus 50k 140

the 140 is assumed for elites who needed to fly 32k on ba d fare to get 90k status miles on as to qualified for additional 50k bonus miles . ba d fare has 2.5 weighting. (base plus cos)

​​​​​​​615%


pbd456 Dec 27, 2016 6:20 am

done3 ex mpm has been filed (which has no possible routing) and it seems the done4 fare has gone up.

rollthere Dec 27, 2016 12:14 pm

So does that mean MPM-xDOH-SYD-SCL-GRU-JNB does not qualify? Serious question. I know the rules state that if you transit there (ME) from Europe to SW Pacific then Asia automatically is added as a continent, but is that true for Africa-SW Pacific or Africa-South America transit?


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27666456)
done3 ex mpm has been filed (which has no possible routing) and it seems the done4 fare has gone up.


pbd456 Dec 27, 2016 12:42 pm

this is africa europe (asia) sw pscific and s america. either 4 or 5 even if asia is not counted

Calchas Dec 27, 2016 1:34 pm


Originally Posted by rollthere (Post 27667867)
So does that mean MPM-xDOH-SYD-SCL-GRU-JNB does not qualify? Serious question.

You need to pay for each continent your itinerary touches, whether it is a transit or a stopover.


I know the rules state that if you transit there (ME) from Europe to SW Pacific then Asia automatically is added as a continent, but is that true for Africa-SW Pacific or Africa-South America transit?
What that rule says is that even if your itinerary doesn't touch Asia (because you fly over the top without having a ticketed point within Asia), you still have to pay for Asia.

rollthere Dec 27, 2016 2:53 pm

Thanks to both of you. I know I had seen both of those rules in the past but it hadn't soaked in when I asked the question. Just for trying to look for a silver lining in them having listed a DONE3 fare. (especially when they have not withdrawn their exCAI fare)


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27667984)
this is africa europe (asia) sw pscific and s america. either 4 or 5 even if asia is not counted


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27668163)
You need to pay for each continent your itinerary touches, whether it is a transit or a stopover

What that rule says is that even if your itinerary doesn't touch Asia (because you fly over the top without having a ticketed point within Asia), you still have to pay for Asia.


Himeno Dec 28, 2016 3:38 am


Originally Posted by rollthere (Post 27668474)
Just for trying to look for a silver lining in them having listed a DONE3 fare. (especially when they have not withdrawn their exCAI fare)

There is no reason for anywhere in Africa that does not have a non stop transatlantic flight, or a connection via Comair, to have a xONE3 fare filed.

Calchas Dec 28, 2016 4:44 am


Originally Posted by rollthere (Post 27668474)
Thanks to both of you. I know I had seen both of those rules in the past but it hadn't soaked in when I asked the question. Just for trying to look for a silver lining in them having listed a DONE3 fare. (especially when they have not withdrawn their exCAI fare)


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 27670315)
There is no reason for anywhere in Africa that does not have a non stop transatlantic flight, or a connection via Comair, to have a xONE3 fare filed.

It is probable that the fare was systematically filed.

MPM is on the list of oneworld airports, so it gets the full set of xONEx fares.

Who knows, BA*MN has offered service in the past on JNB-MPM and might come back.

pbd456 Dec 28, 2016 5:14 am

yes. the net result is done4 is 500usd more expensive than before. still cheap but not as cheap.

discoverCSG Dec 28, 2016 3:16 pm

I was just trying to price a DONE4 ex-CAI, but the OneWorld booking tool says you can't start from any airport in Egypt.

What gives?

pandaperth Dec 28, 2016 6:35 pm

This gives - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...w-tickets.html

medicus Dec 28, 2016 9:05 pm

Am I correct that the latest version of the xONEx rules has removed the ban on 2 return trips to the ME from LHR? It seems to have been dropped from the latest version of the rules on the OW website.

Or am I now so hopelessly confused since the changes to the transit rules from Africa...
(I'm not planning on going to Africa)


What I want to do is HND-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-MCT-LHR-SFO etc

Thanks,

Medicus

wandering_fred Dec 28, 2016 10:26 pm

I downloaded the rules near the end of November 2016.
Rule 4(h) still has the limitation (referring to the 4 flights in the European area)
*not more than 2 of which may be between the UK and ALBANIA, ALGERIA, BULGARIA, CROATIA, CYPRUS, GREECE, MIDDLE EAST, MOROCCO, ROMANIA, RUSSIA west of the Urals, TUNISIA, TURKEY, UKRAINE.

It would seem for your selection, one of the two Middle Eastern points will need to be DOH and then connecting to somewhere other than the UK as QR does offer daily flights to most of the European area. The other choice might be:
HND-HKG-LHR-DXB-HEL-DXB-LHR-SFO.

Happy wandering

Fred

pandaperth Dec 28, 2016 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by medicus (Post 27674416)
Am I correct that the latest version of the xONEx rules has removed the ban on 2 return trips to the ME from LHR? It seems to have been dropped from the latest version of the rules on the OW website.

Or am I now so hopelessly confused since the changes to the transit rules from Africa...
(I'm not planning on going to Africa)


What I want to do is HND-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-MCT-LHR-SFO etc

Thanks,

Medicus

Yes, you are correct. The new version of the rules, dated 1-December-2016, removed that restriction
See here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27552163-post403.html

wandering_fred Dec 29, 2016 2:06 am

Apologies I will download the latest version.

Happy wandering

Fred


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