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Thank you. That's great news!

Medicus

I encountered problem with QR married segment logic when rerouting my exMPM DONE5.

I would like to have NRT-xDOH-SEZ as final segments. EF shows availability on both segments when looking separately. However, when when looking as a connecting flight EF doesn't show that route at all. QF agent could select the first flight, but then it's not possible to select the latter any more.

NRT-DOH segment is also available as JL codeshare and DOH-SEZ is also available as BA codeshare, but according to the OneWorld help desk it's not allowed to ticket that connection even with the codeshares because of the QR restrictions. In addition, when selecting codeshare flight over prime flight I would loose paid STPC.

Is it possible to include those segments to DONE5 somehow, willingly as prime flights? Or reroute suggestions that could work with QR married segment logic?

My full route after change would be MPM-xDOH-HEL-MIA-LAX-LIM-SCL-IPC-xSCL-xJFK-HKG-KTM-xHKG-CGK-NRT-xDOH-SEZ and I have already flown MPM-xDOH-HEL.

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Originally Posted by thois (Post 27686499)

You could waitlist for the desired flights and ask the QF oneworld desk to raise the matter with their QR counterparts, who might confirm you onto the flight. This seems to be something of a long shot though.

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Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27553424)

how many AA SWU would be needed to upgrade? I guess the rule is not really clear when applying to RTW ticket.

The SWU rules are the same for RTWs as for any other kind of revenue ticket. Each SWU is valid for up to three flights, the flights do not have to be contiguous, and you can't backtrack on the same SWU.

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Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27553481)

So for instance one could upgrade HKG-DFW-MIA-LHR using one SWU, but not say LHR-LAX-MIA-GRU.

Are you sure that LHR-LAX-MIA-GRU isn't permitted on one SWU? Seems legit to me as there is no backtracking.

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Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 27558487)

Carriers pulled ex CAI fares due to increased bookings on the rapidly falling Egyptian Pound (with some people getting DONE3s for US2800). This is similar to what happened over the last 2 years with fares ex MPM and KRT.
As far as I know, new fares are yet to be loaded.

QR still has ex-CAI fares (e.g., an ex-CAI DONE5 is $2773.45 USD). I don't know if they will sell you one.

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Originally Posted by TiredDoc (Post 27595413)

So what is the tool I use to find the BA flight numbers and how do i convince QR to do it?

Personally, I use ExpertFlyer to find code shares. Just do a "Flight Availability" search for A-B and use the drop-down to select OneWorld. E.g.,:

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Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Code:

Flight Availability Search

Departing DOH on 02/01/17 12:00 AM for HKG

Flying OneWorld





                                                                     Frequency

Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes

0 Connections

QR 818        0      DOH                HKG                788       Daily           J8 C6 D5 I4 R0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 T9 O4 W4 

                     02/01/17 2:25 AM   02/01/17 2:45 PM             71% / 17m



0 Connections

CX (QR) 9290  0      DOH                HKG                788       Daily           J0 C4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 

                     02/01/17 2:25 AM   02/01/17 2:45 PM             72% / 17m



0 Connections

QR 816        0      DOH                HKG                788       Daily           J9 C9 D9 I9 R0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 T9 O9 W9 

                     02/01/17 8:35 AM   02/01/17 8:55 PM             76% / 17m



0 Connections

CX (QR) 9200  0      DOH                HKG                788       Daily           J4 C4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 

                     02/01/17 8:35 AM   02/01/17 8:55 PM             76% / 17m

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27657091)

Rats, so a potential reprice as well I'm assuming if before first segment flown?

Depends. I've had luck changing the dates of flights other than the first, even when it turned a connection into a stop. My taxes and fees were recalculated, but the ticket wasn't repriced.

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Originally Posted by SFO_FT (Post 27658792)

Any change to the trip prior to departure is supposed to trigger the airline recalculating whether the price is still valid. I'm some cases, if the fare hasn't changed, the issuing agent might choose just to revalidate a segment (i.e., change the flight without reissuing the entire ticket). But, the agent is likely only to do this if the issuing airline is the carrier for which the segment is being changed. The issuing airline is usually not willing to touch a different airlines segments without reissuing.

Adding a stopover is going to trigger a reissue as new taxes need to be collected. And, the underlying e-ticket needs to reflect that a stopover was provided.

Depends what you mean by "whether the price is still valid." You are permitted to make date/time/carrier changes to segments other than the first, before starting the trip, and only pay updated taxes/fees, not a reprice. Airlines will often reissue a ticket for any change, which is fine since reissue is not the same as reprice. Reissuing a ticket is safer than revalidating it. I always make significant date/time/carrier changes to my RTW tickets before flying the first segment, and my tickets are always reissued and never repriced. However, the base fare does still need to be valid, so if you have an ex-CAI ticket, the airline will find it difficult to change your ticket if they withdrew their ex-CAI fare.

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Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27660790)

Right at this point in time your wanting to change the first segment of an ex-Egypt itinerary is interesting, because:

changing the first segment triggers a reprice at today's fare
but currently there is no "today's fare"!! (at least according to ExpertFlyer)
so, IMHO, there should be no price increase (but I am certainly no expert in this matter:))

I tried to have AA upgrade their segments on an ex-CAI ticket, and the Exec desk told me it was very difficult since AA had withdrawn their ex-CAI fare. They didn't say it couldn't be done, just that they would need to figure out how to do it. I didn't push it because I was going to make date changes to those flights anyway.

Is it legal to change around the sequence of continents after the trip has begun?

For instance, if I have a SYD-LAX, LAX-UIO, UIO-LHR, LHR-JNB, JNB-HKG, HKG-SYD; I fly to UIO, then I decide I don't actually want to go to LHR right now, I want to go to JNB instead. Can I flip the routing to UIO-JNB (via GRU, I guess), JNB-LHR, LHR-HKG? (after flying the first segment, so hypothetically pricing should not change?)

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27696420)

Is it legal to change around the sequence of continents after the trip has begun?

Yes it is - I did exactly that with a DONE3 (or maybe an AONE3) some years back: I took CAI-LHR with a view to then going to Asia then NA and back to Europe. However, whilst I was in the air between CAI and LHR my TA managed to snag me a seat on one of the last Concorde flights (which tells you that it was quite a few years ago, but I don't think the rules have changed in this regard, except that the Concorde supplement is no longer available), so I switched to do Europe-NA-Asia-Europe. And it was reticketed on the fly by the BA desk at LHR (after my very excellent TA had rejigged all the reservations).

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Originally Posted by christep (Post 27696457)

Yes it is - I did exactly that with a DONE3 some years back: I took CAI-LHR with a view to then going to Asia then NA and back to Europe. However, my TA managed to snag me a seat on one of the last Concorde flights (which tells you that it was quite a few years ago, but I don't think the rules have changed in this regard, except that the Concorde supplement is no longer available), so I switched to do Europe-NA-Asia-Europe. And it was reticketed on the fly by the BA desk at LHR (after my very excellent TA had rejigged all the reservations).

I hate you.

Not for answering my question, for which I thank you, but for having flown the Concorde. :) ^

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27696464)

I hate you.

+1
and for the same reason:)

if i start with mpm doh jfk with a transfer in doh.

can you end with nrt xlhr lca (stop) xlhr cpt? does the mpm doh jfk count as europe or middle east?

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Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27727702)

if i start with mpm doh jfk with a transfer in doh.

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can you end with nrt xlhr lca (stop) xlhr cpt?

Yes (also you can stopover in London both times if you want)

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does the mpm doh jfk count as europe or middle east?

Middle East (so your outbound from Africa is via the Middle East zone, which then allows your return to Africa to be via the Europe zone to South Africa). Of course your final flights could be LCA-DOH-CPT if you wanted

thanks.. stop in lhr costs too much money..

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Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27730734)

thanks.. stop in lhr costs too much money..

one more question.

gru -x lax -x jfk - hkg.

does it consider as transit without stopover? (this is my second entry to north america). if yes, do i have 4 hours or 24 hours to connect at lax?

24 hours being an international ticket.

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Originally Posted by serfty (Post 27732857)

24 hours being an international ticket.

do u think it counts as transit without stopover? as i want to do gru lax jfk hkg (on cx 888)...