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Pseudo Nim Feb 14, 2017 5:34 pm

I'm considering whether the Explorer ticket is the right solution for the following routing. I need to go TYO-SCL. I'd like to tag on SCL-IPC-SCL "for free" (work ticket, so if I can twist it a bit...). I'd like to fly the outbound on something like NRT-DFW-SCL because of time constraints, but I don't care for the rest. Would there be a Explorer fare that fits this? I don't know if I have time to stop in North America, but if it's required to fulfil a continent rule then I'd find a way.

I was wondering if something like NRT-DFW-SCL, SCL-IPC-SCL (overnight so maybe less than 24 hours), SCL-AKL-SYD-NRT would work?

wandering_fred Feb 14, 2017 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27910105)
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I was wondering if something like NRT-DFW-SCL, SCL-IPC-SCL (overnight so maybe less than 24 hours), SCL-AKL-SYD-NRT would work?

You are missing Europe/Africa so I don't think a xONEx would be useful. What you seem to have outlined is a Circle Pacific(SA) 29K ticket, though I don't remember whether IPC can be included in one of those.

Happy wandering

Fred

Pseudo Nim Feb 14, 2017 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 27910166)
You are missing Europe/Africa so I don't think a xONEx would be useful. What you seem to have outlined is a Circle Pacific(SA) 29K ticket, though I don't remember whether IPC can be included in one of those.

Happy wandering

Fred

Gotcha, I wasn't sure whether there was a thread for this or not. Does the circle pacific have minimum stopover requirements and can it be priced online? I wasn't able to get rtw.oneworld.com to do it but i'm on my phone to be fair.

Pseudo Nim Feb 14, 2017 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 27909127)
I've been looking and can't find discussion on which airlines will ticket what. Can anyone give me any pointers for where to look?

My situation: I have an AA issued DONE4 which I want to reticket with none of my intercontinental flights on AA metal (my preferred route has HEL-LHR-JFK on AY/BA which I want AY marketed, and JAL metal for the flight out to asia). Only long haul AA flight is JFK-LAX. Will the AA rtw desk be happy to (re)ticket that? Anyone have any experience or pointers on getting AY or JAL to ticket?


Originally Posted by rens (Post 27909953)
If I understand correctly, your ticket was originally issued by AA and is, presumably, on 001 ticket stock. In this case AA should reticket with no problem.

What if the OP reticketed with NO flights on AA anymore? (let's say he could fly QF on JFK-LAX, just for argument's sake). So there'd be no flights on AA, would AA still reticket this?

serfty Feb 14, 2017 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by medicus (Post 27880975)
... I'll try to email Qantas with the query about what I will earn on 3 class LAX-MIA and see what (if anything) they say.
...

If in A class on AA marketed flights between LAX and MIA you will earn 75 SC's from May 1st (before then it would be 150 SC's).

As a WP, you will earn 6,250 QFF points (3,750 base +2,500 status bonus) irrespective of the date.

Qantas Frequent Flyer - Partner Airline Earning Table

pandaperth Feb 14, 2017 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27910105)
I'm considering whether the Explorer ticket is the right solution for the following routing. I need to go TYO-SCL. I'd like to tag on SCL-IPC-SCL "for free" (work ticket, so if I can twist it a bit...). I'd like to fly the outbound on something like NRT-DFW-SCL because of time constraints, but I don't care for the rest. Would there be a Explorer fare that fits this? I don't know if I have time to stop in North America, but if it's required to fulfil a continent rule then I'd find a way.

I was wondering if something like NRT-DFW-SCL, SCL-IPC-SCL (overnight so maybe less than 24 hours), SCL-AKL-SYD-NRT would work?

As wandering_fred posted, your itinerary is a Circle Trip Explorer, not a Oneworld Explorer.

You didn't say what fare class you'd be in, so I'm going to assume Business Class

Circle Trip Explorer
If South America is included, then the fare basis is DCIR29SA
Maximum Permitted Miles = 29,000
Minimum stopovers = 2
Maximum free stopovers = 6
Additional stopovers USD150ea
Base Fare ex-Japan JPY859,300
Easter Island is allowed
Cannot be booked on-line
Your itinerary is valid - NRT-xDFW-SCL-IPC-xSCL-SYD-NRT
OneWorld Explorer
Fare basis DONE4 (4 continents: Asia, Nth America, Sth America, Europe/Middle East)
Minimum stopovers = 2
Base Fare ex-Japan JPY780,400
Easter Island is allowed
Can be booked on-line
Possible itineraries:
NRT-xDFW-SCL-IPC-SCL-LHR-NRT or NRT-xDFW-SCL-IPC-SCL-MAD-NRT

Pseudo Nim Feb 14, 2017 10:46 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27910999)
As wandering_fred posted, your itinerary is a Circle Trip Explorer, not a Oneworld Explorer.

You didn't say what fare class you'd be in, so I'm going to assume Business Class

Circle Trip Explorer
If South America is included, then the fare basis is DCIR29SA
Maximum Permitted Miles = 29,000
Minimum stopovers = 2
Maximum free stopovers = 6
Additional stopovers USD150ea
Base Fare ex-Japan JPY859,300
Easter Island is allowed
Cannot be booked on-line
Your itinerary is valid - NRT-xDFW-SCL-IPC-xSCL-SYD-NRT
OneWorld Explorer
Fare basis DONE4 (4 continents: Asia, Nth America, Sth America, Europe/Middle East)
Minimum stopovers = 2
Base Fare ex-Japan JPY780,400
Easter Island is allowed
Can be booked on-line
Possible itineraries:
NRT-xDFW-SCL-IPC-SCL-LHR-NRT or NRT-xDFW-SCL-IPC-SCL-MAD-NRT

Awesome. Thank you for an excellent, concise answer. Surprising but I guess DONE4 is a better deal in this case! I'll check into it, thank you!

Gardyloo Feb 15, 2017 7:31 am

Just a minor correction, it's not a Circle Trip Explorer, it's a Circle Pacific trip. Oneworld's Circle Trip Explorer product doesn't allow crossing either the Atlantic or the Pacific.

Calchas Feb 15, 2017 8:00 am


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27910105)
I'm considering whether the Explorer ticket is the right solution for the following routing. I need to go TYO-SCL. I'd like to tag on SCL-IPC-SCL "for free" (work ticket, so if I can twist it a bit...). I'd like to fly the outbound on something like NRT-DFW-SCL because of time constraints, but I don't care for the rest. Would there be a Explorer fare that fits this? I don't know if I have time to stop in North America, but if it's required to fulfil a continent rule then I'd find a way.

I was wondering if something like NRT-DFW-SCL, SCL-IPC-SCL (overnight so maybe less than 24 hours), SCL-AKL-SYD-NRT would work?

You may also want to look into other ways to purchase this itinerary, oneworld circle tickets are often more expensive than alternative options.

pandaperth Feb 15, 2017 8:15 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 27912173)
Just a minor correction, it's not a Circle Trip Explorer, it's a Circle Pacific trip. Oneworld's Circle Trip Explorer product doesn't allow crossing either the Atlantic or the Pacific.

I stand corrected - sort of;)

On the Oneworld web site, it is called a Circle Pacific
But in the fare rules (on ExpertFlyer) it is called a Circle Trip Explorer
and I only checked ExpertFlyer - in order to check the fare rules

rens Feb 15, 2017 8:55 am


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27910306)
What if the OP reticketed with NO flights on AA anymore? (let's say he could fly QF on JFK-LAX, just for argument's sake). So there'd be no flights on AA, would AA still reticket this?

Since your hypothetical rerouting is not possible on this specific ticket, any response is purely speculation. Any OW airline can ticket or reticket any RTW itinerary in theory. Some may choose not to if there is not specific inducement, ie sufficient flights on their metal. In this case I would speculate that the initial ticketing on 001 stock would by itself be sufficient for AA to reticket since they control the record.

Pseudo Nim Feb 15, 2017 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by rens (Post 27912501)
Since your hypothetical rerouting is not possible on this specific ticket, any response is purely speculation. Any OW airline can ticket or reticket any RTW itinerary in theory. Some may choose not to if there is not specific inducement, ie sufficient flights on their metal. In this case I would speculate that the initial ticketing on 001 stock would by itself be sufficient for AA to reticket since they control the record.

The reason I asked it that way is because I had no other suggestions for JFK-LAX, but consider a more possible option, something like a RTW beginning in KUL with the only flight being on MH being KUL LHR, ticketed on MH stock, and then you call in and change to BA on that segment. Would MH refuse to reticket?

JAXBA Feb 15, 2017 3:25 pm

They shouldn't, but may make up an excuse why they won't...

Generally speaking, each oneworld member can (and should) act as a general sales agent for any other member, for any published fare that doesn't have a restriction in the rules such as 'MUST BE TICKETED BY BA'.

Calchas Feb 15, 2017 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by JAXBA (Post 27914416)
They shouldn't, but may make up an excuse why they won't...

Generally speaking, each oneworld member can (and should) act as a general sales agent for any other member, for any published fare that doesn't have a restriction in the rules such as 'MUST BE TICKETED BY BA'.

Doesn't BA have a policy preventing 125 stock from being used on itineraries that don't include at least one of AA/AY/BA/IB/EI/JL?

Or is that just for TAs using BA stock?

JAXBA Feb 16, 2017 9:59 am

You're right, for travel agents at least, there's a restriction to those airlines (plus VY); http://www.speedbirdclub.com/en/rese...etissuepolicy/

Internally though, BA shouldn't object to selling something on behalf of another member, as long as the fare rules allow it.


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