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*A Flyer Sep 22, 2012 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 19363086)
There isn't anything in the rules saying you have to.
It's the same rule that allows me to start a xONE4 in CBR and end it in MEL, I don't have to count MEL-CBR as a segment.

Thanks. I was sure that was the case but couldn't get the online tool to end an ex-KRT AONE4 in MCT.

Himeno Sep 22, 2012 6:06 pm


Originally Posted by *A Flyer (Post 19366036)
Thanks. I was sure that was the case but couldn't get the online tool to end an ex-KRT AONE4 in MCT.


Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point,
except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows
(a) within the country of origin
(b) within the Middle East
(c) between the United States and Canada
(d) between HKG and China
(e) between Malaysia and SIN
(f) within Africa
(g) between Maldives & Sri Lanka/India
Clearly (a) is working without issue and (b) has a bug. Do the other exceptions work?

jbalmuth Sep 22, 2012 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 19366181)
Clearly (a) is working without issue and (b) has a bug. Do the other exceptions work?

I've had no problems ending an online tool ex-KRT itinerary in either CAI or DXB. [ime, ending the itinerary in AMM sends the pricing sky-high, and I haven't tried MCT.] I therefore concur that there's a bug, but since neither CAI nor DBX are in the same country as KRT, the rule logic can be made to work. I suspect therefore that the problem is in the online tool programming, not the rule per se.

Gardyloo Sep 22, 2012 10:35 pm


Originally Posted by *A Flyer (Post 19366036)
Thanks. I was sure that was the case but couldn't get the online tool to end an ex-KRT AONE4 in MCT.

What's your overall itinerary? Maybe too many "long"/LHR Europe segments?

*A Flyer Sep 23, 2012 4:49 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 19367035)
What's your overall itinerary? Maybe too many "long"/LHR Europe segments?

KRT-AMM-xMCT-xLHR-SFO-xDFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-HKG-BOM-xHKG-DEL-NRT-SYD-LHR-MCT.

As far as I can tell I have just 4 segments within continent of origin as well as only 2 stopovers. KRT//MCT open jaw shouldn't be an issue.

serfty Sep 25, 2012 11:31 pm

Mileage monkey is happy with that itinerary.

http://www.slfft.org/mm/award.htm?ow...RT-SYD-LHR-MCT

joepubli Sep 28, 2012 9:58 pm

changes to rtw flights
 
Thanks to much help from this forum I got the AA rtw desk to set up a ticket that was issued by Naeem in Canada. He is very efficient.

I was going well until some low life in Argentina decided to lift my bag with passport etc. To cut a long story short, my emergency UK passport doesnt allow me to travel via US without a visa. So I am trying to change scl- JFK-syd to scl-Auckland-Sydney on LAN.

AA said I should call LAN since LAN are in the middle of changing their flights and not all LAN flights can be accessed by AA rtw desk and LAN should be able to make the changes. An hour on the phone to LAN and they insist it's an AA ticket no they can't see it and I must call AA.

Himeno Sep 28, 2012 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by joepubli (Post 19405001)
AA said I should call LAN since LAN are in the middle of changing their flights and not all LAN flights can be accessed by AA rtw desk and LAN should be able to make the changes. An hour on the phone to LAN and they insist it's an AA ticket no they can't see it and I must call AA.

o.O
Every time I've needed to change something or some sort of problem has popped up when checking in, the agent I'm with has called the issuing airline themselves to get it sorted. Thus far I've used QF and AA as issuing airlines (total of 6 xONEx's and 2 DAS13's completed) I've had changes or issues appear when dealing with AA, IB, BA and JL agents. They've always called QF/AA to sort it out on the spot.

No idea why the LA agent couldn't just contact AA and ask.

Dr. HFH Sep 29, 2012 6:50 am


Originally Posted by joepubli (Post 19405001)
I was going well until some low life in Argentina decided to lift my bag with passport etc.

At the risk of sounding unsympathetic (which I am not), my passport is always on my body in one of my pockets. Doesn't make it pickpocket-proof, of course, but betters my chances of retaining it. Never in a bag, even a carryon which stays with me.

teemuflyer Oct 27, 2012 12:37 pm

Mix of D and A Awards for RTW- How Many Miles?
 
I'm curious to understand that if you want to use miles to book an Award RTW ticket, and various segments don't offer A (First), but instead one gets booked into D (Business), how are the miles required for the ticket calculated per the AA chart http://boardingarea.com/blogs/aadvan...plorer-ticket/ ?

Thanks for anyone who knows!

pandaperth Oct 27, 2012 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by teemuflyer (Post 19576071)
I'm curious to understand that if you want to use miles to book an Award RTW ticket, and various segments don't offer A (First), but instead one gets booked into D (Business), how are the miles required for the ticket calculated per the AA chart http://boardingarea.com/blogs/aadvan...plorer-ticket/ ?

Thanks for anyone who knows!

Hi there teemuflyer

You're asking in the wrong place
The AA award ticket called an Explorer has nothing to do with the Oneworld Explorer ticket, which is a ticket you buy with money and is the topic of this thread

There is an extensive thread in the AAdvantage forum that discusses the AA Explorer award - see here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-awards.html. The first post gives the basics of the ticket

The quick answer to your question is:
- if there is a First segment in the itinerary, then the whole itinerary is considered First and you are charged the miles for First
(this might be different if the only First segments are on US domestic flights where the plane only has First and Coach cabins - I don't the answer there)

And BTW - the AA Explorer award ticket is not (necessarily) a RTW ticket. It can be, but there is no requirement to go RTW

BrewerSEA Oct 28, 2012 12:50 am


Originally Posted by teemuflyer (Post 19576071)
I'm curious to understand that if you want to use miles to book an Award RTW ticket, and various segments don't offer A (First), but instead one gets booked into D (Business), how are the miles required for the ticket calculated per the AA chart http://boardingarea.com/blogs/aadvan...plorer-ticket/ ?

Thanks for anyone who knows!

You seem to be confusing the fare buckets for the oneworld Explorer paid ticket and the Explorer (née oneworld) Award. This is reasonable considering the blog poster was also confused (as he often is about the AAdvantage program...) and that post is based on the huge misconception that the Explorer award and paid ticket are in any way related (hint: they are NOT).

The Explorer award books in to the same award buckets as AAdvantage oneworld and other airlines awards (née partner awards): Z, U, and T on most (but not all) partners.

teemuflyer Oct 28, 2012 8:58 am


Originally Posted by BrewerSEA (Post 19578580)
You seem to be confusing the fare buckets for the oneworld Explorer paid ticket and the Explorer (née oneworld) Award. This is reasonable considering the blog poster was also confused (as he often is about the AAdvantage program...) and that post is based on the huge misconception that the Explorer award and paid ticket are in any way related (hint: they are NOT).

The Explorer award books in to the same award buckets as AAdvantage oneworld and other airlines awards (née partner awards): Z, U, and T on most (but not all) partners.

Gotcha.. Thanks!

TakeTwo Dec 6, 2012 8:47 am

booking a DONE5 RTW from Joburg
 
I've been avidly reading this forum and others for a few months now, and I signed up here mainly to say a big THANK YOU to everybody for all the tips. We're taking a year off to travel, and so far I've managed to save around $8000 net for my family of 3 on a business class DONE5 RTW ticket, all due to tips found here and elsewhere.

Some of the big money savers for me (all for 2 adults + 1 child):
  • Flying out of Johannesburg and completely skipping Asia even though I live in Tokyo and it hadn't even occurred to me to visit South Africa - this saved $12000 (this site really helped: http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/ByProduct/DONE5).. getting to JNB and then back from Europe on Economy is a separate $6000.
  • Ending the ticket in Dakar instead of Joburg - this saved over $1000 (I have no idea why) plus I was able to fly direct from Madrid, freeing up a segment.
  • Avoiding London - this saved almost $1000 in taxes.

The whole DONE5 ticket for 3 comes to 185400 ZAR, or about USD$21000.

My route is:
JNB-SYD-AKL-SCL-LIM-EZE-GRU-MIA-CUN-DFW-YVR-JFK-HEL-MXP-MAD-DKR

Of course, if anybody has suggestions on how to make it even cheaper or somehow better, I'm all ears :)
There are a few cities that are only really in there because I had to pass through them anyway: JNB, SCL, MIA, DFW, and DKR. Also Europe can change completely if it needs to - it's so small I can probably just drive it if I need to.

And a question: the online tool only lets me book flights up to about 11 months from today, but I really want a full year from my departure date. Would I be better off calling and booking in person (I'd rather not if I could avoid it), or just changing it later? The online ticket will book with Qantas which I gather charges a fee for each change(?), times 3 people.

Thanks again!

Knusper Dec 8, 2012 12:01 pm

Hi folks,
I have skimmed through this thread and I have to admit that most of it is pretty cryptic for me ;-)
Maybe one of you experts could give me some advice on my 4LONE itinerary. Currently it looks like this:

FRA-HKG (transit)-SIN-HKG (transit)-OKA-SYD(transit) -NRT--(surface) AKL-SYD--(surface) CNS-HNL-DFW-YVR-LHR-FRA

The first thing I’ve learned here (thanks!) is that the carrier actually matters – big differences concerning tax fees. As far as I’ve understand QF and BE seem to be most expensive whereas JL, LAN, CX and AA are the cheaper ones. This is why a don't take the direct flight FRA-SIN by Quantas but using CX via HKG.

1. Questions: Are there big differences between JL, LAN, CX and AA? It is my impression that this tax thing matters only on long distance flights, probably because of the fuel charges ? (Please correct me if I’ wrong).

2. I don'kt like the Hawaii -Dallas-Vancouver routing (I'd like to skip Dallas and fly directly or via west cost e.g. LAX, but this seems to be impossible). Do you know a better alternitive?

3. Apparently you can save some money by making the actual booking in another country than the one you are starting in. Apparently you guys likes AA in Denver most – do they really carry out the booking for me even when my itinerary starts in Germany? Do I then get the american pricing, which is cheaper than the german one?

4. Do you know any other tweaks how to reduce the costs of this itinerary or improve it otherwise (better routing, carrier etc.)?

5. Is it possible to collect miles with and use them on upgrades during the ONE itinerary?

I’d really appreciate your help!
Bests,
Knusper


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