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Originally Posted by zupfelmann
(Post 20222584)
Oh, I thought because of Oneworld Explorer Fares (RWR2 RULE 3015), I had a chance to get something back:
"16 b 3) For partially used transportation the refund if any will be the difference between the fare paid and the fare for the transportation used less the fee specified in (1) (which is 10% for Economy) above." My problem is, I really can't fly at the date of my last and 16th segment. I booked it for the last possible date with the plan to change the date. But now the carrier AB does not offer flights anymore on this route in the time I wanted to fly. There is an indiect option, but this would increase the number of segments to 17 - so it's not possible? Another question I have is: If I change the routing from AAA-BBB-CCC to AAA-DDD-EEE, does it count as one transaction or as two (so 125 USD change fee or 250 USD change fee? And is a change fee per person or per booking-number (we are two people on one booking)? So many questions. Tried to get answers from AA, but they weren't very helpful. Hope you are. Thanks! IF the airline flying a segment has discontinued flying it and if there is no other OW airline that flies it THEN you will 'be protected' and if that means you end up flying more than 16 segments that is OK (my LONE4 in 08/09 ended up at 17 segments because of the same issue). I suggest you contact either the carrier that issued your ticket, or the carrier of the problem segment to discuss it. Changing AAA-BBB-CCC to AAA-DDD-EEE is one transaction, so you pay one USD125 fee. I believe that each passenger pays the fee. As for the refund - in theory you get a refund, but only after they compute the cost of the series of 1-way flights you took, in booking class L for economy. You have 16 segments, so the recomputed fare will almost certainly come to more (probably far more) that you paid for the LONEx and therefore you will not get a refund |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 20222874)
IF the airline flying a segment has discontinued flying it and if there is no other OW airline that flies it THEN you will 'be protected' and if that means you end up flying more than 16 segments that is OK (my LONE4 in 08/09 ended up at 17 segments because of the same issue). I suggest you contact either the carrier that issued your ticket, or the carrier of the problem segment to discuss it.
In 08, had NRT-MEL on QF booked. A few months after ticketing, QF canned the MEL flight and I was rerouted via SYD for a 17 sector trip. In 09, had a single flight number (eg, one sector) DEN-(ORD)-BOS booked. AA canned it and was rebooked onto DEN-DFW-BOS for a 17th sector. If it is an involuntary change, the airline can ignore whatever of their rules they want to get you to your ticketed destination. Oh, I thought because of Oneworld Explorer Fares (RWR2 RULE 3015), I had a chance to get something back: "16 b 3) For partially used transportation the refund if any will be the difference between the fare paid and the fare for the transportation used less the fee specified in (1) (which is 10% for Economy) above." |
Thanks foryour answers. Actually I have 17 segments because IPC-LIM was changed to IPC-SCL-LIM by LAN.
The problem that I have is: My last flight DUS-SSH (Dusseldorf to Sharm el Sheik in Egypt - I started in Cairo) with AB is scheduled for the 30th April in the moment. As I start working as a teacher in Germany, I really only can fly during summer vacation. So my plan was to change the last flight to a date between 8th of July and 8th of August. But now there are no more direct flights DUS-SSH between mid of June and beginning of October, so I'm not sure what to do. I think the only two options are: 1) Noshow or 2) I could rebook to DUS-HRG what costs me 125 USD (pP ?) What to you think? |
Originally Posted by zupfelmann
(Post 20230597)
I think the only two options are: 1) Noshow or 2) I could rebook to DUS-HRG what costs me 125 USD (pP ?)
What to you think? |
Originally Posted by zupfelmann
(Post 20230597)
...The problem that I have is: My last flight DUS-SSH (Dusseldorf to Sharm el Sheik in Egypt - I started in Cairo) with AB is scheduled for the 30th April in the moment. As I start working as a teacher in Germany, I really only can fly during summer vacation. So my plan was to change the last flight to a date between 8th of July and 8th of August. But now there are no more direct flights DUS-SSH between mid of June and beginning of October, so I'm not sure what to do....
What to you think? Your booking is for 30 April I suggest:
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Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 20230913)
Looking at the AB schedules in KVS, it appears that AB drops the DUS-SSH flight after 14 April
Your booking is for 30 April I suggest:
This schedule change must be new, because I checked their flightplan every week. Thanks for the help! i will do it like that. ps Yeah I just want to go there to do a dive trip. |
Originally Posted by hegira
(Post 20211330)
Need advice from those in the know. I need to travel from Europe (but can leave from N Africa if a lot cheaper) to GCC (Doha, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Bahrein), Australia (Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney), USA (NYC) and Europe (London, Stockholm, Helsinki, Berlin, Munich, Paris)...
I think a Oneworld RTW Explorer ticket is best given the destinations. Has anyone done a comparison where buying this in Business or (God forbid) Economy makes sense? Responses appreciated. I will happily provide free advice on France - am recognized by Condé Nast and Travel and Leisure as specialist and can do a deal. Merci, Thanks, Danke in advance for any concrete advice!!! Right now, with the devaluation of the Egyptian pound, that may be the least expensive option for you, but I think it would limit your ability to stop off at places in the middle east. Fundamentally, you have a problem in that you want to stop at multiple places in Europe and the middle east, making it hard to start there. Can you get yourself to South Africa? That would be a way for you to travel in business to your places for a low cost. |
Originally Posted by Knusper
(Post 20173284)
When I book a "price optimized" intinerary with the online tool, e.g. by using favourable code shares, and I later change the carrier/date of a flight which would have been more expensive when booked in the first place, do I have to pay the difference or is the price I paid for my ONE itinerarity a done deal?
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Needed to reroute the last 2-3 segments of my itin, will this cause my confirmed segments (the earlier segments not yet flown and do not need to reroute) to be released and have to look for availability again?
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Originally Posted by LHSEN
(Post 20244480)
Needed to reroute the last 2-3 segments of my itin, will this cause my confirmed segments (the earlier segments not yet flown and do not need to reroute) to be released and have to look for availability again?
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L class earning table
I have updated the new earning table on L class ticket of oneworld. I wonder if fellow FTs could help to correct any mistakes. The link is
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For any North America people looking for positioning flights to JNB, AC has some great fares right now. Roundtrip in the USD $950 range. Routing is Origin-Canada-LHR on AC, then LHR-JNB on SA.
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RTW taxes
I have booked the following DONE3 ex BOM :
BOM-KUL-HKG-JFK-SFO-DFW-PVR-DFW-SJO-MIA-LHR(x)-IST-LHR(x)-MAD-DME-HKG-BOM Even though the first flight is on MH, the MH office in BOM was unable to book a RTW as they say dont have the pricing system yet. So I called Cathay in Mumbai. They booked the segments and gave me a price really quick in a couple of hours. Fare : INR 385620 Taxes: INR 83175 Total : INR 468795 Do the taxes seem ok ? It comes to around $1500. Total is around $8845. |
Originally Posted by gkrish5
(Post 20302928)
I have booked the following DONE3 ex BOM :
BOM-KUL-HKG-JFK-SFO-DFW-PVR-DFW-SJO-MIA-LHR(x)-IST-LHR(x)-MAD-DME-HKG-BOM Even though the first flight is on MH, the MH office in BOM was unable to book a RTW as they say dont have the pricing system yet. So I called Cathay in Mumbai. They booked the segments and gave me a price really quick in a couple of hours. Fare : INR 385620 Taxes: INR 83175 Total : INR 468795 Do the taxes seem ok ? It comes to around $1500. Total is around $8845. You might want to review this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...out-india.html |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 20230913)
Looking at the AB schedules in KVS, it appears that AB drops the DUS-SSH flight after 14 April
Your booking is for 30 April I suggest:
I have still trouble with this last flight. I did what you suggested (actually AA had done it without giving them advice), so I have DUS-NUE-SSH on April 30th. But when I wanted to change the date to July, AA told me that there are no more flights to SSH after April 30th. AB had canceled all flights from NUE to SSH (and some more flights from Germany to Egypt), so I still (or again) have the problem what to do. Do you have another idea? Is noshow a problem? Cheers, Daniel |
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