Thank you for the explanations. Obviously, I misunderstood the concept.

Now, here his my next problem. As I explained in another thread, Mindpearl in CPT refuses to ticket my itinerary because I do not have a SA CC and they won' t budge. So I tweaked the itinerary a little bit to make it more BA friendly and plan to proceed with BA for the ticketing. However, I have been unable to find a number for a BA RTW desk. Does it exist at all? The problem is I cannot use the online tool to generate a record locator as several segments do not appear on it. So I am afraid that if I call the general BA number in JNB to build the itinerary, it is not going to go very smoothly. How would you proceed?

Wow. That's new on me. Looking up the other thread...

I got a ticket in the usual way by phone with a non-SA credit card on Sept. 18 2015. There was no problem.

First wanted to say thanks for the various explorer topics in this forum they were a fantastic resource.

My Q is before I ring up BA can I change my remaining 2 legs from LHR-DOH-ARN to LHR-DOH-LHR when I consider my previous routing ARN-LHR-HKG-KUL-HND-SFO//YVR-JFK-MIA-JFK-LHR

I'm not sure if I can visit London one more time or if I can have a different start and end point.

Any help greatly appreciated.

You can visit London more than once provided no route is flown more than once and maximum 2 "long" intra-europe legs to or from UK.

However, you cannot start in ARN and finish in LHR. Final destination can differ from origin but must be within the same country (with some exceptions but UK isn't amongst the exceptions).

Cheers Kiwi Flyer I knew I'd read a rule somewhere that wouldn't making it possible. Thanks for confirming

Have taken the plunge and bought 2 LONE4 tickets. Just retired - so 2016 is one big trip. But I have a few Q's for the experts who live here.

Route is:

0 MAN- LHR - NOT on the RTW tkt

1. LHR - EZE Mid Jan (BA)
2 surface
3. PUQ - MPN
4. MPN - PUQ
5. PUQ - SCL
6. SCL - AKL
7. AKL - BNE
8. BNE - DRW
9. surface - the Gan
10. ADE - BNE
11. BNE - HKG
then home to the UK for summer. Going home HKG-CNX-BKK-LHR-MAN.
Back to HKG in Sep - as yet not booked. (looking for a cheap flight back)
12. HKG - DEL
13 DEL - KUL
14 KUL - NRT
15 NRT - DOH
16. DOH - MAN home for Xmas

Would appreciate comments in general and answers in particular to

1. Date Changes. Who do I contact to switch? BA (they sold me the tkt and am EC member) or the airline concerned eg LAN for the S American legs?? Can I simply turn up at the airport and ask to be put on next flight if L allocation within Y cabin has seats free??

2. I live near Chester hence the MAN start. I have a separate booking MAN - LHR on BA due at LHR at 15:00 to connect with the first leg - BA's EZE departure at c. 22:00. Given the possibility of bad weather in Jan and LHR's capacity issues am I in deep trouble if the MAN flight is seriously delayed or cancelled? Would have no problem being rebooked to EZE if the MAN flight is cancelled and turning up in Argentina day or so late but could I be "no showed" and have entire RTW tkt cancelled??

3. I need 2 one ways to HKG in mid/late Sep. Can be flexible with dates and happy to bag a stop over anywhere from HEL to CMB - I would prefer to do most of the distance on a OW carrier. Any ideas for a cheap but fun routing? No not RUH....

4. Do I get enough points to get any worthwhile benefits on OW eg lounge access in future? Am currently blue. Very blue.

Many thanks in advance - I've learned a lot from this forum but clearly not yet enough.

1. BA issued the ticket and you will need to contact their RTW desk to reissue (change) it. Other airlines can take control of the ticket once a sector is flown but it is a bit of a faff and I wouldn't trust most airlines in South America to do it without screwing it up. In principle you can ask for a revalidation to be done at the airport but it may take a few hours if they do it properly (in consultation with BA).

2. No showing is allowed at a 125 USD penalty, so your onward sectors will not be cancelled. BA will probably protect you anyway if you included this kind of (in my view) absurdly generous contingency for a 40 minute flight. I would not expect to pay the no show penalty if BA made me late for a BA flight. I would expect an apology, a hotel room and a rebooking on the next day's service.

3. Why do you need one ways? Just book a return from HKG to MAN (or somewhere cheaper).

4. in L class you will get points for most of your sectors into BAEC but I think you will be short of lounge access.

Agreed. To make it more likely I would check into both flights early. With both flights checked in you are much more likely to be handled well in case of disruption.


One option this year would have been to credit to AA and take a platinum challenge which would only require 10k miles flown (in L on BA/AA/Jal/Qnatas) for lounge access. But it looks like the scheme is being withdrawn this year: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ec-2015-a.html

I can imagine there will still be ad hoc AA status challenges programs though so I'd say it's worth keeping an eye out come the new year.

I assume ADE is supposed to be ADL, in which case I think you would accrue
40+10+10+10+40+10+10+10+35+35+35+35+35+35 = 350 tier points.

I have not checked this in detail, so you would want to go to ba.com's calculator and run each route by carrier in L class to be sure.

You need 600 tier points to qualify for BA Silver (oneworld Sapphire).

Enjoy the trip: Looks good
You did well getting the SCL-AKL flight in L. Hard to get from LAN
At times changing to the code share flight (if available) can get more miles/tier points.

I have had no trouble in getting airlines, other than the issuing airline, to change fights (but not changed route), including LA in SCL

Put the route LHR-EZE,PUQ-MPN-PUQ-SCL-AKL-BNE-DRW,ADL-BNE-HKG-DEL-KUL-NRT-DOH-MAN into MM (but is may be correct: has not been updated for some time, so may not/will not have the latest devaluation )
http://www.slfft.org/mm/award.htm?ow...H-MAN&cabins=y

As many of you know, AA is drastically revising its FFP with some potentially significant reductions (and maybe some improvements) in the benefits of premium cabin RTWs. One passage in the new AA FAQ states that a maximum of 75,000 redeemable miles can be claimed on "one ticket." Presumably that would apply to Oneworld Explorer tickets just as it would to "ordinary" tickets.

But it raised a question in my mind, one that I probably should know, but don't remember. When one reissues an xONEx ticket - say for a routing change - does the "new" ticket have the same ticket number as the old one? I know the PNR stays the same, but what about the ticket numbers?

Obviously looking for a loophole here, and would appreciate anybody who knows the answer answering.

On my current ex-CPT BA-issued DONE5 I have made a number of changes during the year. And every time BA has done a re-issue with new ticket numbers - even for a simple date change.
However, IIRC on earlier AA-issued itineraries, new tickets were only issued for routing changes.

I have asked a similar question in the relevant AA ( I posted there because you closed to relevant thread here in the Oneworld forum:))

A reissue or an exchange gives you a new ticket number.

Only in the case of a revalidation will the ticket number stay the same. A revalidation was simply a sticker that went over part of the old ticket and the same principle carries through to eticketing.

Here is an example I found of a revalidated ticket: http://www.harshbutfair.org/linked/a.../18_ticket.jpg

A revalidation can only change the date, time, booking class or flight number. In the case of a revalidation performed by an airline the flight prefix may also be changed; this may not be accomplished by a travel agent. Any other change (cities travelled, fare basis, tax/fee calculation, et c) requires the ticket to be reissued or exchanged and a new ticket will be issued as part of this process.

Also, if any kind of penalty applies then the ticket must be reissued because otherwise there is no document basis on which to account for the penalty collection.

However the new ticket will include a reference to the old ticket in the "Issued in exchange for" box. It would not be hard for AA to keep track of this.

My experience is routing changes, or stopovers changing to transits or vv, result in new ticket. Mere date changes do not.