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djmp Jan 29, 2016 11:47 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 26100349)
Prices of the various Oneworld products vary greatly depending on the country of origin. Base price for a DONE3 issued in the USA is currently around $10,200 plus taxes/fees.

Substitute Vancouver for the origin point (you'd have to pay to get from SFO to YVR) and see what you get.

Goes down to $8.5K USD... (Even with LHR still in the mix). Thanks!

ShortTermParking Jan 30, 2016 1:10 pm

Adding Segments After Starting Travel
 
I want to add two segments (I currently have 13/16 filled) after starting travel on my DONE4.
Has anyone done this? Is it simply a matter of calling the appropriate desk, providing info, and paying the $125 change fee? Is there anything else I should know or consider?

Himeno Jan 31, 2016 1:57 am


Originally Posted by ShortTermParking (Post 26106548)
I want to add two segments (I currently have 13/16 filled) after starting travel on my DONE4.
Has anyone done this? Is it simply a matter of calling the appropriate desk, providing info, and paying the $125 change fee? Is there anything else I should know or consider?

Since travel has started, any oneworld airline agent should be able to make the changes.
It would have a US$125 change fee + any extra taxes/surcharges.

christep Jan 31, 2016 6:35 am

As above. If you're lucky they will recalculate all the surcharges and you may find the total is lower than originally due to declining (or totally removed) fuel surcharges. In that case then just the $125 fee.

stex Jan 31, 2016 1:45 pm

I have quick question about ex-JNB xONE4. Would it be possible to visit Africa-S.America-N.America-Asia as the four continents and use only one connection (no stopover)in Europe for the first two segments JNB-xMAD-SCL? Or would this force it to become a xONE5 to include Europe? I am not interested to include Europe, and could skip the Middle East as could have HKG-JNB as the last segment. Thanks for your help.

Moomba Jan 31, 2016 2:19 pm

It would be counted as a 5th continent

beardoc Jan 31, 2016 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by stex (Post 26111124)
I have quick question about ex-JNB xONE4. Would it be possible to visit Africa-S.America-N.America-Asia as the four continents and use only one connection (no stopover)in Europe for the first two segments JNB-xMAD-SCL? Or would this force it to become a xONE5 to include Europe? I am not interested to include Europe, and could skip the Middle East as could have HKG-JNB as the last segment. Thanks for your help.

Yup, it's a DONE5 the moment that you touched Europe to transit through. Even using the DOH transit rules, it would count as touching Europe/Middle East, and it's a DONE5. But in all honesty, the upgraded cost of a DONE5 isn't that much at the moment.

stex Jan 31, 2016 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by beardoc (Post 26111524)
Yup, it's a DONE5 the moment that you touched Europe to transit through. Even using the DOH transit rules, it would count as touching Europe/Middle East, and it's a DONE5. But in all honesty, the upgraded cost of a DONE5 isn't that much at the moment.

Thanks for the clarification moomba and beardoc. That was my understanding (becoming an xDONE5) but wanted to make sure it was correct.

Hopefully with the new JJ non-stop JNB-GRU things will become easier to have a xDONE4 as I intended. I wonder if there has been any indication of when will this flight become operational? I have searched but could only find general comments about it happening in 2016...

Calchas Jan 31, 2016 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by stex (Post 26111588)
I wonder if there has been any indication of when will this flight become operational? I have searched but could only find general comments about it happening in 2016...

Last I heard LATAM was still seeking approval from the South African government.

stex Jan 31, 2016 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 26111672)
Last I heard LATAM was still seeking approval from the South African government.

Will keep monitoring press releases from LATAM...

I just found out that JJ has a codeshare with SA for their non-stop JNB-GRU. But I guess it would not work for xONEx products, given that there is no mention of allowing SA codeshares in the rule sheet... right?

this is the flight: JJ (SA) 8343 JNB - GRU

Calchas Jan 31, 2016 4:12 pm


Originally Posted by stex (Post 26111807)
I just found out that JJ has a codeshare with SA for their non-stop JNB-GRU. But I guess it would not work for xONEx products, given that there is no mention of allowing SA codeshares in the rule sheet... right?

Certainly not!

It's oneworld operated by oneworld only [JetStar is allowed under QF code]

Rule J
Code:

          J.TRAVEL ON ANY AA/AB/AY/BA/CX/HG/IB/JJ/JL/KA/LA/
            MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/S7/UL/XL/4M CODESHARE SERVICE
            OPERATED BY AA/AB/AY/BA/CX/HG/IB/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/
            NU/QF/QR/RJ/S7/UL/XL/4M IS PERMITTED. OTHER
            CODESHARE SERVICES NOT PERMITTED
WITH THE
            EXCEPTION OF QF CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY
            JETSTAR /JQ /
            -
            ADDITIONALLY TRAVEL PERMITTED ON THE FOLLOWING
            AIRLINES WHICH ARE AFFILIATED WITH/OR WETLEASE
            PROVIDERS TO ONEWORLD -
            -
            AIR BERLIN - BELAIR/LGW/TUIFLY
            -
            AMERICAN AIRLINES - AMERICAN EAGLE - OPERATED BY
            ENVOY AIRLINES/REPUBLIC AIRLINES/SKYWEST
            AIRLINES/EXPRESSJET AIRLINES/MESA AIRLINES/PSA
            AIRLINES/PIEDMONT AIRLINES/AIR WISCONSIN/
            COMPASS AIRLINES/TRANS STATES AIRLINES.
            -
            BRITISH AIRWAYS - BA CITY FLYER INCLUDING
            FLIGHTS OPERATED BY EASTERN AIRWAYS/COMAIR/SUN
            AIR OF SCANDINAVIA/OPEN SKIES/BA LIMITED
            -
            IBERIA - AIR NOSTRUM/IBERIA EXPRESS
            -
            JAPAN AIRLINES - J-AIR
            -
            LAN - LAN EXPRESS/LAN PERU/LAN COLOMBIA
            -
            QANTAS - ALLIANCE AIRLINES/QANTAS LINK OPERATED
            BY EASTERN AUSTRALIA/JETCONNECT/NATIONAL JET
            SYSTEMS/SUNSTATE AIRLINES/NETWORK AVIATION
            -
            SIBERIA AIRLINES  -  GLOBUS
            -
            FINNAIR - PRIVILEGE STYLE/FLYBE FINLAND/NORDIC
          REGIONAL AIRLINES NORRA
            -
            GROUND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OPERATED BY/FOR
            BA/QF MAY NOT BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE
            ONEWORLD EXPLORER.


stex Jan 31, 2016 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 26111869)
Certainly not!

It's oneworld operated by oneworld only [JetStar is allowed under QF code]

Rule J
Code:

          J.TRAVEL ON ANY AA/AB/AY/BA/CX/HG/IB/JJ/JL/KA/LA/
            MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/S7/UL/XL/4M CODESHARE SERVICE
            OPERATED BY AA/AB/AY/BA/CX/HG/IB/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/
            NU/QF/QR/RJ/S7/UL/XL/4M IS PERMITTED. OTHER
            CODESHARE SERVICES NOT PERMITTED
WITH THE
            EXCEPTION OF QF CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY
            JETSTAR /JQ /
            -
            ADDITIONALLY TRAVEL PERMITTED ON THE FOLLOWING
            AIRLINES WHICH ARE AFFILIATED WITH/OR WETLEASE
            PROVIDERS TO ONEWORLD -
            -
            AIR BERLIN - BELAIR/LGW/TUIFLY
            -
            AMERICAN AIRLINES - AMERICAN EAGLE - OPERATED BY
            ENVOY AIRLINES/REPUBLIC AIRLINES/SKYWEST
            AIRLINES/EXPRESSJET AIRLINES/MESA AIRLINES/PSA
            AIRLINES/PIEDMONT AIRLINES/AIR WISCONSIN/
            COMPASS AIRLINES/TRANS STATES AIRLINES.
            -
            BRITISH AIRWAYS - BA CITY FLYER INCLUDING
            FLIGHTS OPERATED BY EASTERN AIRWAYS/COMAIR/SUN
            AIR OF SCANDINAVIA/OPEN SKIES/BA LIMITED
            -
            IBERIA - AIR NOSTRUM/IBERIA EXPRESS
            -
            JAPAN AIRLINES - J-AIR
            -
            LAN - LAN EXPRESS/LAN PERU/LAN COLOMBIA
            -
            QANTAS - ALLIANCE AIRLINES/QANTAS LINK OPERATED
            BY EASTERN AUSTRALIA/JETCONNECT/NATIONAL JET
            SYSTEMS/SUNSTATE AIRLINES/NETWORK AVIATION
            -
            SIBERIA AIRLINES  -  GLOBUS
            -
            FINNAIR - PRIVILEGE STYLE/FLYBE FINLAND/NORDIC
          REGIONAL AIRLINES NORRA
            -
            GROUND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OPERATED BY/FOR
            BA/QF MAY NOT BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE
            ONEWORLD EXPLORER.



I am confused... JJ is TAM, JQ is Jetstar... correct? TAM is codesharing the SAA JNB-GRU flight... how could the JQ exception help in this scenario..?

stex Jan 31, 2016 6:23 pm

For clarification purposes:

JNB-GRU
South African Airlines SA222 (metal)
Tam Airlines JJ8343 (codeshare; operated by SA)

&

JNB-GRU
South African Airlines SA224 (metal)
Tam Airlines JJ8345 (codeshare; operated by SA)

stex Jan 31, 2016 6:43 pm

Nevermind. Misread your reply, Calchas...! "Certainly not" as in NO codeshares operated by South African Airways and other non-oneworld with the exception of JetStar... makes sense. Thanks!

Calchas Jan 31, 2016 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by stex (Post 26112497)
Nevermind. Misread your reply, Calchas...! "Certainly not" as in NO codeshares operated by South African Airways and other non-oneworld with the exception of JetStar... makes sense. Thanks!

Yes that is what I meant :). Perhaps I supplied too much information to solve the problem.

The fact that JJ has codeshared with SA on the route for so long suggests to me that JJ will make a success of it, they must have access to the passenger numbers.

Just waiting for the announcement now.


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