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wyddfa Feb 12, 2016 2:37 pm

Please bear with this relative newbie,

Finding it difficult to decode this stuff. Find it difficult believe there's not a pair of L seats going north from PUQ to SCL anytime between Feb 20 and March 3 ��

Not a formal wait listing but if we just show up off the MPN PUQ flight on 20th (or say the following day) and there's space in Y in any of the multiple flights, does anyone have a view if we can grab the seats and LA can then flog ours at their leisure? Do local staff have any discretion in such matters? Would a phone call to BA (issuers of our LONE4) be an expensive waste of time?

Many thanks all. Really appreciate the collective wisdom of this forum.

Kiwi Flyer Feb 12, 2016 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by wyddfa (Post 26175361)
Please bear with this relative newbie,

Finding it difficult to decode this stuff. Find it difficult believe there's not a pair of L seats going north from PUQ to SCL anytime between Feb 20 and March 3 ��

Not a formal wait listing but if we just show up off the MPN PUQ flight on 20th (or say the following day) and there's space in Y in any of the multiple flights, does anyone have a view if we can grab the seats and LA can then flog ours at their leisure? Do local staff have any discretion in such matters? Would a phone call to BA (issuers of our LONE4) be an expensive waste of time?

Many thanks all. Really appreciate the collective wisdom of this forum.

L is a heavily discounted economy class fare. Not at all surprising there is no availability just a few weeks before travel. As to whether LA will at their discretion permit standby change to an earlier flight, that is solely up to LA. Talking to BA about it won't help.

Calchas Feb 12, 2016 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by wyddfa (Post 26175361)
Please bear with this relative newbie,

Finding it difficult to decode this stuff. Find it difficult believe there's not a pair of L seats going north from PUQ to SCL anytime between Feb 20 and March 3 ��

I agree it's odd compared to say BA or AA. But it's up to LA how they manage their availability. LAN's revenue management can structure their availability count however they like. It's quite possible they have sold zero seats on all those flights---but they think there is a market for full fare Y/B/H purchases and that is what they are setting the price at.


Originally Posted by wyddfa (Post 26175361)
Not a formal wait listing but if we just show up off the MPN PUQ flight on 20th (or say the following day) and there's space in Y in any of the multiple flights, does anyone have a view if we can grab the seats and LA can then flog ours at their leisure? Do local staff have any discretion in such matters? Would a phone call to BA (issuers of our LONE4) be an expensive waste of time?

I think you are probably wasting your time because of the complexity of your ticket. If you really need to fly an alternative is to grab a redemption seat (I have seen a few flights with X availability---that's a reward seat---but no L) and change the RTW segment to a surface sector instead. Not ideal but it's an option.

brahms77 Feb 13, 2016 1:52 am

ticketing deadline & changes post ticketing
 
Hi, I am having a massive issues with QR issuing a DONE4 and I will miss the initial ticketing deadline of 8 days prior to departure. Now, the D fare buckets are available for the dates I need to travel (less than 8 days)... and I was thinking of issuing the ticket to initially meet the ticketing deadline and move forward my first segment (and subsequent flights). Do you think this is possible with xONEx fare (i.e. Can I book & issue DONE4 with first flight departing 8+ days out and later change the first segment to less than 8 days, for example, departing within 2-3 days to circumvent the ticketing deadline restrictions)?

spartanmu Feb 13, 2016 10:57 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 26172001)
Of course you can go back to Asia on an AONE4. In fact you must go back - to Japan at least:)

You are allowed four flights in Asia and two stopovers. So if you haven't had two stopovers at the beginning of the itinerary, then you can have a stopover in HKG at the end.

With regards to the final HKG-NRT flight - simply change its date to be about one year after the first flight. You never know, you might end up having a use for it. if not, then simply 'forget' about it:D

I wish this was possible! :)

Unfortunately, we are using our allotted two stopovers in Asia at the beginning of the trip so it wont be available at the end of the trip. Either we play it safe and fly back to NRT and then buy a one way ticket to HKG, or take the risk and stop our journey in HKG (and hope they dont void our JFK-HKG mileage because we didnt finish the journey with the connection).:confused:

Calchas Feb 13, 2016 11:00 am


Originally Posted by spartanmu (Post 26179159)
I wish this was possible! :)

Unfortunately, we are using our allotted two stopovers in Asia at the beginning of the trip so it wont be available at the end of the trip. Either we play it safe and fly back to NRT and then buy a one way ticket to HKG, or take the risk and stop our journey in HKG (and hope they dont void our JFK-HKG mileage because we didnt finish the journey with the connection).:confused:

I don't see it happening

When you board your flight at JFK, CX will take the JFK-HKG flight coupon off the ticket. They send a copy of that coupon to your frequent flier programme who will then issue the appropriate miles to your account and charge CX for the cost of the miles.

When you fail to board your flight at HKG, CX ... will do nothing

I don't think (but I cannot know for sure) that CX will hold off sending the information to the FFP until the whole journey slice is finished. I don't think the IT is that clever.

tortuga444 Feb 13, 2016 5:40 pm

pricing and booking in europe
 
Q: How much does the ticket cost?
A: The ticket is priced based on the number of continents you visit, a minimum of three and a maximum of six. The pricing varies depending on where in the world the ticket is issued. If you want to try to save some money by starting your *ONE* somewhere other than your home to take advantage of local pricing and currency rate differences, check the link to current pricing.
Hello, thanks for all the Information! However the current pricing link does not work for me.
I want to start in June 16 from Europe (MUC,VIE or if cheaper Bratislava, Budapest) Quito, Lima, Santiago, Easter Islands, NewZealand - Europe taking a full year.
So far I only found 2 travelagencies and no other way of booking
QU 1 how can I check Price for 4 start cities
QU 2 How can I book for THAT Price
QU 3 The Airline timetables for spring 2017 are not ready can I leave the DATES open(the route is fixed)
QU 4 Is there Price difference depending which time of the year I start?
THANK YOU SO HAPPY to have found your Forum!!

Dr. HFH Feb 13, 2016 7:33 pm


Originally Posted by tortuga444 (Post 26180960)
QU 1 how can I check Price for 4 start cities
QU 2 How can I book for THAT Price
QU 3 The Airline timetables for spring 2017 are not ready can I leave the DATES open(the route is fixed)
QU 4 Is there Price difference depending which time of the year I start?
THANK YOU SO HAPPY to have found your Forum!!

  1. ExpertFlyer.com
  2. I find that the easiest way is to book with the AA RTW desk (+1-800-247-3247) and tell them to set it up for ticketing in the city from which you wish to have it issued. Then you have to find an AA authorized travel agent in that city who will issue the ticket for you. Occasionally, you can get an AA airport desk to issue the ticket (I have); but there are none in the really cheap places for issue.
  3. Yes.
  4. No.

Calchas Feb 14, 2016 7:32 am


Originally Posted by tortuga444 (Post 26180960)
Q: How much does the ticket cost?
A: The ticket is priced based on the number of continents you visit, a minimum of three and a maximum of six. The pricing varies depending on where in the world the ticket is issued. If you want to try to save some money by starting your *ONE* somewhere other than your home to take advantage of local pricing and currency rate differences, check the link to current pricing.
Hello, thanks for all the Information! However the current pricing link does not work for me.
I want to start in June 16 from Europe (MUC,VIE or if cheaper Bratislava, Budapest) Quito, Lima, Santiago, Easter Islands, NewZealand - Europe taking a full year.
So far I only found 2 travelagencies and no other way of booking
QU 1 how can I check Price for 4 start cities
QU 2 How can I book for THAT Price
QU 3 The Airline timetables for spring 2017 are not ready can I leave the DATES open(the route is fixed)
QU 4 Is there Price difference depending which time of the year I start?
THANK YOU SO HAPPY to have found your Forum!!

I think the base price is flat originating within Europe excluding UK

I just checked VIEVIE, MUCMUC and BTSBTS, and for a DONE3 they are all 5008 GBP

Edit: But BUDBUD is 5090 GBP :eek:

pandaperth Feb 14, 2016 11:33 pm

Welcome to FT tortuga444

Your itinerary covers four continents - even though you don't touch Asia, you have to pay for it when travelling from the South West Pacific (New Zealand) to Europe

ex-VIE/MUC/ the base prices are EUR2500/7019/12977 for Economy/Business/First Class
To the base price must be added the various taxes, fees and surcharges which depend on where you go and which airlines you choose to fly.

On oneworld.com you can see the full fare rules, which Ire commend you read so you can maximise the value of your ticket. Also there is an on-line booking tool there, which is full of bugs but should allow to at least price up various itineraries that you are interested in.

headinclouds Feb 16, 2016 12:04 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 26186742)
Welcome to FT tortuga444
Your itinerary covers four continents - even though you don't touch Asia, you have to pay for it when travelling from the South West Pacific (New Zealand) to Europe

ex-VIE/MUC/ the base prices are EUR2500/7019/12977 for Economy/Business/First Class

If you can start from Egypt, then ex-CAI prices are EUR1940/5065/10390 for Economy/Business/First Class

Skatering Feb 18, 2016 12:08 pm

I'm at the early stages of planning a RTW. I'm assuming ex-JNB is still the best way to obtain the lowest value J ticket? If so, I understand you can start and end anywhere in Africa. Where do the consider Melilla (MLN) to be? Starting in JNB and ending in MLN would be preferable considering I'd have to get myself back to LHR.

JAXBA Feb 18, 2016 3:23 pm

MLN would be considered 'Europe' - even Morocco and Algeria are included in the oneworld Explorer definition of Europe. MLN is of course surrounded by Morocco.


Originally Posted by oneworld Explorer Rules
The continent of Europe-Middle East consists of 2 zones:
* Europe (including Algeria, Morocco, Russia west of the Urals & Tunisia)
* Middle East (including Egypt, Libya and Sudan)

The closest 'African' airports to LHR are south of the Sahara - ACC/LOS/ABV, etc.

wyddfa Feb 22, 2016 8:47 am


Originally Posted by wyddfa (Post 26175361)
Please bear with this relative newbie,

Finding it difficult to decode this stuff. Find it difficult believe there's not a pair of L seats going north from PUQ to SCL anytime between Feb 20 and March 3 ��

Not a formal wait listing but if we just show up off the MPN PUQ flight on 20th (or say the following day) and there's space in Y in any of the multiple flights, does anyone have a view if we can grab the seats and LA can then flog ours at their leisure? Do local staff have any discretion in such matters? Would a phone call to BA (issuers of our LONE4) be an expensive waste of time?

Many thanks all. Really appreciate the collective wisdom of this forum.

Not talking to myself honestly. :p just an update.

We turned up at the LAN office in downtown Punta Arenas on 11.2 and was told a pile of stuff I know to be untrue by a deeply unhelpful staff member. Caught our PUQ MPN flight on 13.2 and returned on 20.2 after a terrific week on the islands.

Flying back into PUQ I thought we would be stuck in PA for the duration but after retrieving bags and clearing customs & immigration went back to tkt sales and a super helpful lady spent 20 mins grappling with LANs reservation system and getting us on LAN 90 later that night for the red eye special to SCL. Result!

I had checked on availability but there seemed nothing in L despite loads of space in economy. LAN can now try to some more revenue on 3.3 rather than flying empty seats over the weekend. A win-win.

JAXBA Feb 23, 2016 8:58 am


Originally Posted by wyddfa (Post 26225473)
...was told a pile of stuff I know to be untrue by a deeply unhelpful staff member.

Please expand! :) We like details!



...super helpful lady spent 20 mins grappling with LANs reservation system and getting us on LAN 90 later that night for the red eye special to SCL. Result!

I had checked on availability but there seemed nothing in L despite loads of space in economy. LAN can now try to some more revenue on 3.3 rather than flying empty seats over the weekend. A win-win.
We'll never know whether LA gets anything more than your satisfaction or if your change was the butterfly wings that causes a hurricane! Glad that you were able to get away early after all.

I often say that there's no harm in asking. Sometimes the answer can be yes, even if things have to be fudged slightly. If the answer's no, at least you tried. It's when certain pax demand things to go their way regardless that irks customer service staff and makes the whole interaction unpleasant...


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