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Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 26388662)
doesnt oneworld have rule to protect mis connection on oneworld carrier even on a different ticket?
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Originally Posted by danger
(Post 26388692)
American Airlines does have such a policy but I don't think oneworld has an alliance-wide policy.
There's a thread on this, the most useful post within which is probably this: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24573519-post87.html |
Changing the date of a flight should not incur a penalty fee?! (TAM issuing airline)
Hi,
I booked a OneWorld RTW ticket, with TAM being the issuing airline. After having started the trip I wanted to change the date of one flight, from Lima to Santiago, so no change in destinations. According to my understanding of the RTW rules this should be free of charge if the fare is the same, and not lead to having to pay a fee of USD 125. As per the rules such a fee only applies when changing "ticketed points", which I understand are the destinations booked (so flying from A to B, which were the same in my case). However, TAM insisted that there is a penalty fee of USD 125 for changing the date of the flight (same flight from Lima to Santiago, same fare, just a different day). I gave in at some point, as I really needed to change the flight date. However, I would think that all Oneworld airlines have to follow the RTW rules (as stated here http://travelagent.oneworld.com/e-learning-lessons/newLesson/Downloads/files/oneworld_Explorer_rule_sheet.pdf) and cannot "interpret" the rules to their liking to make more money. I just wanted to get this confirmed by some more knowledgable and RTW-experienced people in this forum before starting to fight with TAM to get my money back. Thanks! |
Penalty fee for changing flight date (TAM issuing airline)?!
Hi,
I booked a OneWorld RTW ticket, with TAM being the issuing airline. After having started the trip I wanted to change the date of one flight, from Lima to Santiago, so no change in destinations. According to my understanding of the RTW rules this should be free of charge if the fare is the same, and not lead to having to pay a fee of USD 125. This fee only applies to changing "ticketed points", which I understand are the destinations defined in the booked route (so flying from A to B, which remanded the same in my case). However, TAM insisted that there is a penalty fee of USD 125 for changing the date of the flight (same flight from Lima to Santiago, same fare, just a different day). I gave in at some point, as I really needed to change the flight date. However, I would think that all Oneworld airlines have to follow the RTW rules (as stated here http://travelagent.oneworld.com/e-learning-lessons/newLesson/Downloads/files/oneworld_Explorer_rule_sheet.pdf) and cannot "interpret" the rules to their liking to make more money. I just wanted to get this confirmed by some more knowledgable and RTW-experienced people in this forum before starting to fight with TAM to get my money back. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by HelenM
(Post 26459830)
Hi,
I booked a OneWorld RTW ticket, with TAM being the issuing airline. After having started the trip I wanted to change the date of one flight, from Lima to Santiago, so no change in destinations. According to my understanding of the RTW rules this should be free of charge if the fare is the same, and not lead to having to pay a fee of USD 125. As per the rules such a fee only applies when changing "ticketed points", which I understand are the destinations booked (so flying from A to B, which were the same in my case). Changing a connection to a stop over can also be considered to be changing "ticketed points". Were you in Lima for at least 24 hours after your previous flight? |
To ask Himeno's question another way, did you create a stopover or connection in LIM or SCL that you didn't have before?
If you originally had a stopover in LIM and SCL, and you still have a stopover in both, there shouldn't be a fee that I can think of. However, if your date change created a stopover or connection that you didn't have before, then the fee would apply. |
Another thought, given that TAM issued the ticket.
Did the trip start in South America? Generally, flight/date/time/carrier changes are fee, provided ticketed points remain the same. However, turning a connection into a stopover or trying to change flights before the first intercontinental flight can cause issues. (eg, changing CBR-SYD-LAX on a trip starting in South West Pacific can be problematic.) |
Originally Posted by HelenM
(Post 26481569)
Hi,
Originally Posted by HelenM
(Post 26481569)
However, I would think that all Oneworld airlines have to follow the RTW rules (as stated here http://travelagent.oneworld.com/e-le...rule_sheet.pdf) and cannot "interpret" the rules to their liking to make more money.
This thread is full of examples where we, or employees at the airline, have not understood the rules properly. Sometimes that works to our advantage! It is an unfortunate fact of dealing with these itineraries. As others have said, if a stopover was transformed into a connection or vice versa, that would be a change to a ticketed point. |
Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 26494533)
Hello HelenM and welcome to FlyerTalk.
The RTW rules are complicated and not everyone understands them very well. It may be a simple misunderstanding. This thread is full of examples where we, or employees at the airline, have not understood the rules properly. Sometimes that works to our advantage! It is an unfortunate fact of dealing with these itineraries. As others have said, if a stopover was transformed into a connection or vice versa, that would be a change to a ticketed point. |
Originally Posted by HelenM
(Post 26481569)
Hi,
I booked a OneWorld RTW ticket, with TAM being the issuing airline. After having started the trip I wanted to change the date of one flight, from Lima to Santiago, so no change in destinations. According to my understanding of the RTW rules this should be free of charge if the fare is the same, and not lead to having to pay a fee of USD 125. This fee only applies to changing "ticketed points", which I understand are the destinations defined in the booked route (so flying from A to B, which remanded the same in my case). However, TAM insisted that there is a penalty fee of USD 125 for changing the date of the flight (same flight from Lima to Santiago, same fare, just a different day). I gave in at some point, as I really needed to change the flight date. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by wyddfa
(Post 26496231)
I needed to change dates twice (so far) on my BA issued LONE4. A really helpful man on the LHR ticket desk in January was utterly brilliant, a sour faced LAN agent at the downtown office in Punta arenas a month later basically refused to help at all. A simple date change is free according to the rules, but that doesn't help if you're sat in front of somebody who either doesn't know the rules or doesn't want to know the rules.
After disappearing into the back room a few times, the agent ended up refusing to touch the ticket and told me to go talk to SQ. |
Originally Posted by wyddfa
(Post 26496231)
I needed to change dates twice (so far) on my BA issued LONE4. A really helpful man on the LHR ticket desk in January was utterly brilliant, a sour faced LAN agent at the downtown office in Punta arenas a month later basically refused to help at all. A simple date change is free according to the rules, but that doesn't help if you're sat in front of somebody who either doesn't know the rules or doesn't want to know the rules.
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 26496270)
A few years ago, I went to the MH downtown KUL ticketing office to get a flight on a DONE3 changed. It was a time/date change near the end of the trip. CX issued the ticket.
After disappearing into the back room a few times, the agent ended up refusing to touch the ticket and told me to go talk to SQ. |
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 26496270)
A few years ago, I went to the MH downtown KUL ticketing office to get a flight on a DONE3 changed. It was a time/date change near the end of the trip. CX issued the ticket.
After disappearing into the back room a few times, the agent ended up refusing to touch the ticket and told me to go talk to SQ. Any particular reason that you didn't just call? |
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 26499146)
First, I'll echo Calchas. SQ?
Any particular reason that you didn't just call? |
Originally Posted by HelenM
(Post 26459830)
Hi,
I booked a OneWorld RTW ticket, with TAM being the issuing airline. After having started the trip I wanted to change the date of one flight, from Lima to Santiago, so no change in destinations. According to my understanding of the RTW rules this should be free of charge if the fare is the same, and not lead to having to pay a fee of USD 125. As per the rules such a fee only applies when changing "ticketed points", which I understand are the destinations booked (so flying from A to B, which were the same in my case). However, TAM insisted that there is a penalty fee of USD 125 for changing the date of the flight (same flight from Lima to Santiago, same fare, just a different day). I gave in at some point, as I really needed to change the flight date. However, I would think that all Oneworld airlines have to follow the RTW rules (as stated here http://travelagent.oneworld.com/e-le...rule_sheet.pdf) and cannot "interpret" the rules to their liking to make more money. I just wanted to get this confirmed by some more knowledgable and RTW-experienced people in this forum before starting to fight with TAM to get my money back. Thanks! |
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