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TiredDoc Nov 16, 2016 3:52 am

Hey all

Can anyone let me know if the following is allowable as a xONE3 fare?

CAI-oDOH-IKA-oLHR-ARN-LHR-JFK-CUN-oMIA-LAX-HNL-NRT-HKG-MLE-HKG-BOM-DOH

Really confused here, as the oneworld planner flags an error in the BOM-DOH sector

Thanks everyone

Pseudo Nim Nov 16, 2016 4:31 am

Is it possible to somehow get SCL-IPT-PPT-(???)-SYD, (issued on AA stock, if it helps)? Would it be SCL-IPT-PPT-AKL-SYD on TN codeshare with AA, on to QF, or will TN not codeshare with AA on PPT-AKL?

Calchas Nov 16, 2016 4:41 am


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27487217)
Is it possible to somehow get SCL-IPT-PPT-(???)-SYD, (issued on AA stock, if it helps)? Would it be SCL-IPT-PPT-AKL-SYD on TN codeshare with AA, on to QF, or will TN not codeshare with AA on PPT-AKL?

Yes but not part as an xONEx itinerary. You need to use the xGLOBx fare instead which is a slightly different beast. PPT-AKL would be under the QF code.

Calchas Nov 16, 2016 4:45 am


Originally Posted by TiredDoc (Post 27487134)
Hey all

Can anyone let me know if the following is allowable as a xONE3 fare?

CAI-oDOH-IKA-oLHR-ARN-LHR-JFK-CUN-oMIA-LAX-HNL-NRT-HKG-MLE-HKG-BOM-DOH

Really confused here, as the oneworld planner flags an error in the BOM-DOH sector

Thanks everyone

You have five flights in Europe/Middle East, when you are limited to four. I would suggest dispensing with one of the ARN-LHR sectors, making it a surface sector, as it is readily obtainable on miles or Avios.

christep Nov 16, 2016 11:33 am

And also I think you have the notation wrong... x is a transit, o is a stopover (the default). I assume you meant:

CAI-xDOH-IKA-xLHR-ARN-LHR-JFK-CUN-xMIA-LAX-HNL-NRT-HKG-MLE-HKG-BOM-DOH

Pseudo Nim Nov 16, 2016 3:09 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27487240)
Yes but not part as an xONEx itinerary. You need to use the xGLOBx fare instead which is a slightly different beast. PPT-AKL would be under the QF code.

Doh! Just read up a bit more about it and you're absolutely right. Thanks.

anabolism Nov 16, 2016 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27360941)
1. If you make no changes to the first flight coupon (the first flight), you pay the delta in any taxes, airport fees and airline surcharges, plus any increase in the fare. If you are changing the ticketed points or the first flight coupon, then in addition to that you pay the 125 USD fee.

If you are only changing dates/times/carriers, and the first flight remains unchanged, then you do not pay the fare difference. Only difference in taxes and airline-imposed fees.

See my added emphasis in the rules:

Code:

      CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE
          A/ CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS
          REMAIN THE SAME. IF THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON IS
          BEING CHANGED AND THE FARE LEVEL HAS INCREASED
          SINCE THE TICKET ISSUANCE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
          THE OLD AND NEW FARE BE CHARGED.


Pseudo Nim Nov 16, 2016 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 27490266)
If you are only changing dates/times/carriers, and the first flight remains unchanged, then you do not pay the fare difference. Only difference in taxes and airline-imposed fees.

See my added emphasis in the rules:

Code:

      CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE
          A/ CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS
          REMAIN THE SAME. IF THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON IS
          BEING CHANGED AND THE FARE LEVEL HAS INCREASED
          SINCE THE TICKET ISSUANCE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
          THE OLD AND NEW FARE BE CHARGED.


Wait. Wow. So hypothetically, suppose you got a xONEx ticket where the fare has since doubled, going XXX-YYY-something-something-something-XXX. You're concerned that you'll be charged the new double fare, and were thinking of flying XXX-YYY and only then calling in to change remaining flights. If what you're saying is true, you can call right now and modify it any which way you want, as long as you do not touch XXX-YYY?

anabolism Nov 16, 2016 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27490282)
Wait. Wow. So hypothetically, suppose you got a xONEx ticket where the fare has since doubled, going XXX-YYY-something-something-something-XXX. You're concerned that you'll be charged the new double fare, and were thinking of flying XXX-YYY and only then calling in to change remaining flights. If what you're saying is true, you can call right now and modify it any which way you want, as long as you do not touch XXX-YYY?

If you want to change your routing, then you need to wait until after you've flown at least the first flight. If you only change date/time/carrier on flights other than the first, then you can do that before the trip starts. I do this all the time: book a trip for 11 months in the future, with real dates for the first few flights, and dummy dates for the rest. Five or six months after ticketing (still several months before the first flights), call to change the dummy dates to real ones.

Pseudo Nim Nov 16, 2016 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 27490392)
If you want to change your routing, then you need to wait until after you've flown at least the first flight. If you only change date/time/carrier on flights other than the first, then you can do that before the trip starts. I do this all the time: book a trip for 11 months in the future, with real dates for the first few flights, and dummy dates for the rest. Five or six months after ticketing (still several months before the first flights), call to change the dummy dates to real ones.

Ahh gotcha - understood. I missed the part about dates only - no routing changes. Thanks.

Dr. HFH Nov 16, 2016 6:18 pm

The rule of thumb that I use is that after you have flown the first flight, any change which could have been accomplished with a sticker on a paper ticket will be free.

http://blog.thetravelinsider.info/wp.../09/qftktb.jpg

anabolism Nov 17, 2016 10:35 am

Transit in CAI (or HBE)
 
Thinking of jumping on the ex-Egypt fare, but prefer to do it as transit. Would CAI be good for this? I was thinking of HBE as safer than CAI, but I'm guessing it might not be set up for int'l-int'l transit, whereas I think CAI is.

Anyone know if I fly QR on an award DOH-CAI (or DOH-HBE), if they can check me in for the CAI-DOH (or HBE-DOH) trip in DOH? Obviously the two flights would be on different PNRs. Would flying in from DOH and back out on the same day raise suspicions in Egypt? Or I could do the inbound award on EY from AUH, which might make it harder to check in with QR before landing in CAI (or HBE) but likely seems less suspicious.

skunker Nov 17, 2016 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 27493175)
Thinking of jumping on the ex-Egypt fare, but prefer to do it as transit. Would CAI be good for this? I was thinking of HBE as safer than CAI, but I'm guessing it might not be set up for int'l-int'l transit, whereas I think CAI is.

Anyone know if I fly QR on an award DOH-CAI (or DOH-HBE), if they can check me in for the CAI-DOH (or HBE-DOH) trip in DOH? Obviously the two flights would be on different PNRs. Would flying in from DOH and back out on the same day raise suspicions in Egypt? Or I could do the inbound award on EY from AUH, which might make it harder to check in with QR before landing in CAI (or HBE) but likely seems less suspicious.

I did a QR DOH-CAI-DOH same plane turn a couple years ago. There is a transit option in Terminal 1, but it is all manual. The security people will make you wait in a glass box while they contact the carrier and get your new BP. There was confusion about why I was doing what I was doing but once I explained it was cheaper to fly from CAI they nodded and said ok.

anabolism Nov 17, 2016 5:07 pm


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 27494405)
I did a QR DOH-CAI-DOH same plane turn a couple years ago. There is a transit option in Terminal 1, but it is all manual. The security people will make you wait in a glass box while they contact the carrier and get your new BP. There was confusion about why I was doing what I was doing but once I explained it was cheaper to fly from CAI they nodded and said ok.

Thanks! So, it's probably best to leave three hours or more in CAI for the transit? If I'm using EY for the inbound award flight, I have a choice of either 2:25 or 5:05, since my first flight would be the QR 7:10PM CAI-DOH. I'm concerned that 2:25 might not be safe. Is there a QR lounge if I have 5 hours between?

Dr. HFH Nov 17, 2016 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 27493175)
Thinking of jumping on the ex-Egypt fare, ....

Isn't it a little late?


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