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Calchas Oct 5, 2016 5:29 am


Originally Posted by Clark Kendrick Go (Post 27305200)
Hi! I am new to this forum.

I have gained enough mileage (150k+ miles) on Asia miles and I am excited to do a RTW trip.

I have been looking at OneWorld and the Multiple Carrier Award says I can only make a maximum of 5 (?) stopovers. That is quite fewer than expected.

Can I use my miles to pay for routes in OneWorld Global Explorer?

Any insights are welcome.

Can you just buy one ways?

danger Oct 5, 2016 5:46 am


Originally Posted by Clark Kendrick Go (Post 27305200)
Hi! I am new to this forum.

I have gained enough mileage (150k+ miles) on Asia miles and I am excited to do a RTW trip.

I have been looking at OneWorld and the Multiple Carrier Award says I can only make a maximum of 5 (?) stopovers. That is quite fewer than expected.

Can I use my miles to pay for routes in OneWorld Global Explorer?

Any insights are welcome.

Welcome, Clark Kendrick Go.

As has been noted this thread relates to the paid oneworld Explorer fare which is 16 stops.

Because you're using Asia Miles you are probably best asking your question in the Cathay forum.

cgo Oct 5, 2016 6:37 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27305396)
Can you just buy one ways?

I haven't tried it actually, but I bet that trying to maximize 5 stopovers + transits + open jaw would be more beneficial if done with multiple carrier award, than in multiple one way awards.

Has anyone done this trip already?

I was taken aback at first because current regulations allow only 5 'stopovers'. I originally thought that I could go as many cities as possible (ala oneworld explorer), until I realized that 'stopover' meant 'cities I can visit'.

wandering_fred Oct 5, 2016 7:08 am


Originally Posted by OWRTW (Post 27304109)
Been trying to book with multiple airlines a DONE4 ex-CAI with DOH as the final destination and all of them have been unable to make DOH the final destination. Apparently their booking system is forcing the last segment to head towards CAI.
From my understanding of the rules, one can start and end a trip anywhere in the M.E.

My two questions are:
Has anyone ever faced this issue when booking with an airline?
Is CAI considered part of the M.E.? (When creating the same itinerary on the OW tool I haven't faced any difficulties)

(Tried with both QF and QR)
Thank you!

I would suspect that the AA RTW desk wouldn't have a problem - do you have an inter-area longhaul flight that you can fly with AA?

OTOH, unless you are going to use an award flight to your next stop (or actually stop in DOH) the revenue fares exCAI are going to be a whole lot cheaper than exDOH. Also note that QR flies DOH-CAI as first class cabins so that segment will earn a lot of status (whatevers) on many programs.

Happy wandering

Fred

Dr. HFH Oct 5, 2016 9:04 am


Originally Posted by Clark Kendrick Go (Post 27305601)
I haven't tried it actually, but I bet that trying to maximize 5 stopovers + transits + open jaw would be more beneficial if done with multiple carrier award, than in multiple one way awards.

Has anyone done this trip already?

I was taken aback at first because current regulations allow only 5 'stopovers'. I originally thought that I could go as many cities as possible (ala oneworld explorer), until I realized that 'stopover' meant 'cities I can visit'.

DON'T BUY THE TICKET UNTIL YOU LEARN MUCH MORE ABOUT IT.

These are complicated tickets; many travel agents and airline ticketing people don't understand them. There are ten pages of the official rules which govern them; you can find them here. I would recommend that you print the rules and read them slowly, and several times. Then come back here with a list of the cities you'd like to visit. There are a number of people here who fly these tickets regularly and have some insight into how they work. We'll be happy to help you sort it out.

pbd456 Oct 5, 2016 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by Clark Kendrick Go (Post 27305200)
Hi! I am new to this forum.

I have gained enough mileage (150k+ miles) on Asia miles and I am excited to do a RTW trip.

I have been looking at OneWorld and the Multiple Carrier Award says I can only make a maximum of 5 (?) stopovers. That is quite fewer than expected.

Can I use my miles to pay for routes in OneWorld Global Explorer?

Any insights are welcome.

you need to go to Cathay pacific asia miles for further information. but the rule for oneworld award using asiamiles is very clear. (but i wont discuss here.)

Pseudo Nim Oct 18, 2016 1:50 am

Got a decent deal on a AONE6 ticket from Asia, so went ahead and booked it. I've read the change rules a few times, and I just wanted to confirm my understanding. If I want to change the ticket:

1) before departure, considering in my case it was slightly discounted, I must assume the fare in effect at the time will be higher - so I will have to pay the difference - even if I'm only changing dates, not routing?
2) after departure of first flight, I should be able to change anything, even the routing, for the $125 service fee? (as long as I am within the original ticket rules)

Thanks!

Calchas Oct 18, 2016 6:09 am


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27360440)
Got a decent deal on a AONE6 ticket from Asia, so went ahead and booked it. I've read the change rules a few times, and I just wanted to confirm my understanding. If I want to change the ticket:

1) before departure, considering in my case it was slightly discounted, I must assume the fare in effect at the time will be higher - so I will have to pay the difference - even if I'm only changing dates, not routing?
2) after departure of first flight, I should be able to change anything, even the routing, for the $125 service fee? (as long as I am within the original ticket rules)

Thanks!

1. If you make no changes to the first flight coupon (the first flight), you pay the delta in any taxes, airport fees and airline surcharges, plus any increase in the fare. If you are changing the ticketed points or the first flight coupon, then in addition to that you pay the 125 USD fee.

2. After the first coupon is used, you can change the ticket within the original rules for 125 USD fee plus the delta in any taxes, airport fees and airline surcharges.

The relevant rules are---
Code:

      CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE
          A/ CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS
          REMAIN THE SAME. IF THE FIRST FLIGHT COUPON IS
          BEING CHANGED AND THE FARE LEVEL HAS INCREASED
          SINCE THE TICKET ISSUANCE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
          THE OLD AND NEW FARE BE CHARGED. IF THE FARE
          LEVEL HAS DECREASED SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE NO
          REFUND WILL APPLY.
          -
          B/ CHANGES TO TICKETED POINTS ARE PERMITTED AT A
          CHARGE OF USD125.00 PER TRANSACTION. IF THE FARE
          LEVEL HAS INCREASED SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE THE
          DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW FARE WILL
          ALSO BE CHARGED. IF THE FARE LEVEL HAS DECREASED
          SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE NO REFUND WILL APPLY.
          ---
          CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE
          A/ CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS
          REMAIN THE SAME.
          -
          B/ CHANGES TO TICKETED POINTS ARE PERMITTED AT A
          CHARGE OF USD125.00 PER TRANSACTION.
          -
          C/ NO SHOW REQUIRES REBOOKING AT CHARGE OF USD
          125.00.


Pseudo Nim Oct 18, 2016 8:21 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27360941)
1. If you make no changes to the first flight coupon (the first flight), you pay the delta in any taxes, airport fees and airline surcharges, plus any increase in the fare. If you are changing the ticketed points or the first flight coupon, then in addition to that you pay the 125 USD fee.

2. After the first coupon is used, you can change the ticket within the original rules for 125 USD fee plus the delta in any taxes, airport fees and airline surcharges.

The relevant rules are---

Great. Thank you very much!

Dr. HFH Oct 18, 2016 9:05 am


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 27360440)
Got a decent deal on a AONE6 ticket from Asia, so went ahead and booked it. I've read the change rules a few times, and I just wanted to confirm my understanding. If I want to change the ticket:

1) before departure, considering in my case it was slightly discounted,....

Can you help us understand your use of "decent deal" and "slightly discounted" please?

rollthere Nov 6, 2016 3:43 am

Given the recent deal out of Cairo I would like to take advantage of it, however, I would really like to visit Iceland. Can anyone figure out if it's possible starting in CAI going eastbound around the world them to get to KEF upon my return to Europe?

For example if I start: CAI-LHR-BKK, etc, or CAI-AMM-BKK, etc, and continue through Asia and the U.S. I can only get to KEF by transiting LHR, HEL, or BER/MUC then on to DOH and am therefore using 5 segments in Europe.

I know I can do this if I start from CAI and go directly to KEF, however, the idea is to start in April and then come back to Europe in August when it's a little warmer.

Any thoughts? Do I really only have the option of starting out the trip in that direction?

Calchas Nov 6, 2016 3:50 am

CAI-DOH- ... rtw ... -LHR-KEF-LHR-DOH. You don't have to finish in Cairo, you can finish anywhere in the Middle East.

rollthere Nov 6, 2016 4:23 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 27443351)
CAI-DOH- ... rtw ... -LHR-KEF-LHR-DOH. You don't have to finish in Cairo, you can finish anywhere in the Middle East.

Doh! Thanks for the reply and I immediately saw my problem. I was trying to get fancy and fly MIA-DOH-xxx-KEF.

wandering_fred Nov 6, 2016 8:23 am

There's too many posts to reasonably search. :(

The rules state that an LONEx can be upgraded to a DONEx.
I recall posts regarding changing a LONE3 to a LONE4 confirming that the prices used are the prices at the time of the ticketing/issue of the original ticket. Does this apply to the L --> D change as well? Is the answer different after the first flight is taken?

I'm reasonably certain that I want the RTW routing. The question is whether I can afford a (second) DONE rather than the LONE. Being able to purchase the latter now (locking in the price) would be an easier decision if the D price was also locked in...

And of course this is made more interesting by the ability to issue the RTW on the basis of the original starting point from any country and current currency changes.

Happy wandering

Fred

Calchas Nov 6, 2016 9:06 am

Once the first segment on any air ticket is flown then any changes to the ticket are repriced using the fares that were in effect on the day the ticket was issued.


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